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To: wideawake

Geeeze...reading a book doesn't give you the place to say silly ass stupid things and expect any credibility.

Using contraception is NOT in essence the same as converting to Islam.

Your so called logic isn't valid.

So to you a young couple not ready for children are ceding the world to Islam?

Or a couple trying to plan and space their children are ceding the world to Islam?

Or an older couple no longer wanting to raise children ceding the world to Islam?

Or women who risk health consequences from pregnancy and use birth control are ceding the world to Islam?

And anyone who isn't married and doesn't want children are ceding the world to Islam?

With enough of these 'exceptions' to your rule, the rule no longer rules.


201 posted on 10/10/2006 11:09:54 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Eagle Eye
Geeeze...reading a book doesn't give you the place to say silly ass stupid things and expect any credibility.

My claim is not based on my erudition but on empirically observable facts. I referred readers of this thread to Steyn because, being a gifted writer, he makes the same empirical argument far more lyrically and enjoyably than I can.

Using contraception is NOT in essence the same as converting to Islam.

I didn't say that it was essentially no different. I said it was practically no different.

Jumping off a 30 story building intentionally and accidentally falling off a 30 story building are essentially two different actions, but they have the same practical consequence.

Your so called logic isn't valid.

Oh, but it is, as I've explained.

So to you a young couple not ready for children are ceding the world to Islam?

A statement I never made.

Or a couple trying to plan and space their children are ceding the world to Islam?

Another statement I never made.

Or an older couple no longer wanting to raise children ceding the world to Islam?

Another statement I never made.

Or women who risk health consequences from pregnancy and use birth control are ceding the world to Islam?

Another statement I never made.

And anyone who isn't married and doesn't want children are ceding the world to Islam?

Yet a fifth statement I never made.

With enough of these 'exceptions' to your rule, the rule no longer rules.

The issue is people who pathologically prefer creature comforts to having families.

And the consequences thereof.

214 posted on 10/10/2006 11:20:32 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Eagle Eye

Seriously. I mean, until I read wideawake, I had no idea I was a Muslim!


485 posted on 10/10/2006 4:08:55 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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