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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

Edited on 03/09/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: LADYAK
You know with a big ugly boil that thing would have been oozing...and getting on her clothes...seems like she would have had a dressing on it...and you know would have said to someone, "can you take a look at this thing on my butt"...don't ya think?

The abcess was under the skin. I believe ANS had multiple abcesses in her buttocks due to injections.

Autopsy report:

Dissection of the buttocks reveals diffuse subcutaneous scarring and fat necrosis of the adipose tissue bilaterally with three subcutaneous cystic structures containing light yellow, clear, thick liquid within the left buttock. The right buttock contains similar cysts with similar content, with at least one cyst wall being calcified.

The left and right buttocks have foci of recent, hemorrhagic tracts within the subcutaneous adipose tissue and the superficial and deep muscular layers extending from the skin surface.

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/03/26/anna.autopsy.pdf

I don't believe that it was outward and visible to the human eye.

Perper even missed it during the autopsy. Witchdoctor Eroshevich had to inform Perper that ANS had complained of pain in her left buttock from a recent injection of either human growth hormone, vitamin B12 or immunoglobulin.

The autopsy reveals the following:

There is a deep-seated 3 x 2.5 x 2 centimeter abscess within the musculature of the left buttock with a creamy, yellow-green pus on sectioning. A recent, hemorrhagic, needle tract extends into the abscess wall from the skin surface.

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/03/26/anna.autopsy.pdf

16,841 posted on 04/02/2007 5:59:37 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: shywolf

It's "not wise" equates to "negligence". She was a doctor for cripes sakes...not the maid.


16,842 posted on 04/02/2007 6:00:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Bronwynn

Thanks - I have all that. Please note that Ben Thompson's middle name is Benjamin.

I did extensive checking and he was actively in business developing land and owning businesses in the years preceding, during, and after that federal charge, including owning an establishment that serves liquor, none of which a federal inmate can do.

Don't take those databases as gospel, because they gather their info from a huge variety of official and non-official sources (like magazine subscriptions and mailing lists like that, for one thing - that's why you get so many names at one address or someone showing the age of someone else in the household instead of their own, stuff like that).

You have to take it further and try to have 3 sources from 3 different directions. It's not always possible with this ANS stuff, but it should be done.

For example, Ronald W. Dendy was Ben Thompson's business partner and his name is not Ben. I know exactly where that entry came from - it was a recorded document in the Horry Co. files where both names were run together accidentally onto one line of a file.

The devil is in the details - that's why we have to keep on the lookout for things like that. Thanks!


16,843 posted on 04/02/2007 6:03:43 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Sacajaweau
I know what you mean. I read in various places that NONE of the drugs were in Anna's name? (HKS and that Alex Katz person(did anyone ever find anything on this person?) and even one to KE?!?!? I would THINK that would be the fist red flag. The second flag would be that SOMEONE gave her all the drugs?!?! And if that someone was a doctor that would know the outcome. Seems simple to me.
This whole thing really makes me mad.
Now I'm not sure who to be more upset with...HKS or KE?!?!?!?
16,844 posted on 04/02/2007 6:08:05 AM PDT by shywolf
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To: Sacajaweau
Remember, Howard is LYING to all his attorneys.

Naturally he is. I must be missing your point on this. Could you explain more.

Thompson's access to the Horizons and securing Anna's stuff was an UNKNOWN in his plan.

Yes.

What I remember most about the tour after the robbery was Howard going to the closet and saying "All the important legal papers" are gone including Dannie Lynn's birth certificate. At some point, he opened a picture album and (I believe this is correct), there on the right hand side of the right page was the picture of Shane Gibson in bed with Anna....the same picture that came out shortly thereafter. I'll bet the Kapoor picture was in that same album.

Do we know what important legal papers he was referring to? Do you have a guess? I never saw that video that ET did "on the spot". But opening a photo album at such a time was wierd eh? And Gibsons picture being right there is odd no? And the cameras were right on it.

I suppose if Anna had known that Howard was up to no good she would've told him to take the album too since it was apparently in the same closet as all the important legal papers. What are you getting at?

16,845 posted on 04/02/2007 6:08:22 AM PDT by uncitizen (Set America's baby free!)
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To: TexKat

Abominable and ugly are perfect words for them.


16,846 posted on 04/02/2007 6:11:56 AM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT(everything not sourced should be regarded as IMO))
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To: Sacajaweau

Maybe the Tamiflu was just a cover to show that they were trying to help her, not hurt her, because they thought she had the flu.

And as far as Howard having the flu prior to her, Moe would know the answer to that. I don't believe it to be true.


16,847 posted on 04/02/2007 6:12:09 AM PDT by uncitizen (Set America's baby free!)
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To: Kimberly GG

Cipro had been on KE's long faxed "wish list" to Kapoor long before that, so it was an ongoing drug ANS needed or received, but it's sort of all-purpose, so it's hard to tell what KE was wanting it for.


16,848 posted on 04/02/2007 6:13:29 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Sacajaweau

I just don't know why Perper would go along with this "accident" thing unless there is something in his past that's not on the up and up. Wecht would know about something like that. Do we know what country Perper comes from?


16,849 posted on 04/02/2007 6:15:56 AM PDT by uncitizen (Set America's baby free!)
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To: shywolf
"I recall reading that when she had the 105 fever, they gave her meds and it went away? I think if she had a really BAD infection, it would not of went away that quickly?"

The gullible Dr. Perper chose to take everyone's word about the 105 fever going down and that Anna was getting "better". (That would be a convenient lie told to justify them NOT taking Anna to the hospital.)

Just because they "said" it, doesn't make it so.

sw

16,850 posted on 04/02/2007 6:17:22 AM PDT by spectre ((Spectre's wife))
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To: Sacajaweau

Taking TAMIFLU with Other Medications

TAMIFLU has been shown to have a minimal chance of negatively interacting with other medications. Your doctor or healthcare professional may recommend taking over-the-counter medications to reduce severity of symptoms while the antiviral action of TAMIFLU takes effect on the flu virus. As with any medication, be sure to discuss with your doctor any over-the-counter or prescription medicines you are currently taking before beginning TAMIFLU therapy. An intranasal flu vaccine should not be given within 2 weeks before or 48 hours after taking TAMIFLU, unless it is deemed appropriate by your doctor.

http://www.tamiflu.com/taking/how.aspx?ref=home_takinghow


16,851 posted on 04/02/2007 6:17:35 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: uncitizen

When I looked up Tamiflu warnings, they were associated with psycotic episodes, suicide, delirium.


16,852 posted on 04/02/2007 6:20:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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So Sad!!


16,853 posted on 04/02/2007 6:24:58 AM PDT by shywolf
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To: spectre
The gullible Dr. Perper chose to take everyone's word about the 105 fever going down and that Anna was getting "better". (That would be a convenient lie told to justify them NOT taking Anna to the hospital.)

If Dr. Perper is gullible, which i doubt, or stupid, which i doubt, he'd believe these things at first, but would be questioning them by now.

But now, everyone in the media is slamming him with questions as to why he took the word of the people who were the last to see Anna alive. He said he only works with "evidence". The word of those people might be evidence but it certainly cannot be considered fact and there is so much inconsistency in what each of them say. So he should've discounted it instead of cherry picking which of HKS statements to believe and which of the people to believe. If he had integrity, which i now doubt, he would take these media questions seriously and reexamine his findings instead of going on TV and defending himself (with a defense that is sounding more ridiculous as the days go by). I'm no doctor and that 105 degree temp and the flu sounded like BS to me from the get go.

16,854 posted on 04/02/2007 6:25:21 AM PDT by uncitizen (Set America's baby free!)
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To: Sacajaweau; All
So is anything supposed to be happening wrt court in the Bahamas today?

Since tomorrow is the 3rd, will there be a ruling stopping the scheduled paternity result hearing today?

sw

16,855 posted on 04/02/2007 6:26:12 AM PDT by spectre ((Spectre's wife))
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To: uncitizen
Tamiflu side effect worries grow after deaths

Roche denies Tamiflu-related side effects

Can Tamiflu cause psychiatric side effects?

16,856 posted on 04/02/2007 6:26:30 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: Pepper777

Good morning!

That pic is awful. It looks like Howie forgot to zip his pants, nevermind the look on his face shoving that straw in Anna's mouth. The only reason why I noticed his pants, is because it looks like he slept in his clothes. Totally disheveled. Leads me to believe that he has a drug/alcohol problem as well.


16,857 posted on 04/02/2007 6:27:14 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: Sacajaweau
When I looked up Tamiflu warnings, they were associated with psycotic episodes, suicide, delirium.

Oooh. I wonder if Anna was on this when she and Howie had the "committment ceremony". I have to wonder if she even knew what she was doing at that time. Just a week or so after Daniel dies she did that. That is the work of HKS and not Anna. There's no way. She jumped off the boat for crying out loud.

16,858 posted on 04/02/2007 6:28:18 AM PDT by uncitizen (Set America's baby free!)
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To: uncitizen
When he went to the closet, there was a little stool and started feeling around on the shelf...picked up a manila envelope that was still there and said the legal papers were gone. It was like it was his first trip to the closet but he never looked at the manila envelope or opened it.

In other words, it wasn't his first trip to the closet since the robbery.

As far as the album, I wonder if it's the album that has the "Uncle Howard" fingerprints because it was that size. Opening to the Gibson photo might have been an accident....or the ILLUSION of it as an innocent photo because it wouldn't be in that book.

I wish I could see the tour again or a print of the album scene.

16,859 posted on 04/02/2007 6:29:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: uncitizen
He is gullible, and you went on to prove that in the rest of your post.

He was taken in by Howard's phony display of grief, love and affection for Anna. His sympathies were with team Howard from day one. JMHO.

sw

16,860 posted on 04/02/2007 6:30:36 AM PDT by spectre ((Spectre's wife))
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