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Thread Number Two
I heard they are going to release the autopsy results this week, ANYBODY know what day or have they said.?
Good Afternoon all..
Here's my take on what's going on
Howard gay??? I don't think he's gay. If anything I don't think he's sexual. Larry's comment is being used to mean that he was hinting at Howie being gay. I disagree. I think he just meant that you would have to have sex to get someone pregnant. During the hearing he said that Howard was in love with Anna and was jealous of their relationship. I think Howard's view of love is twisted and about control. Because he can't actually feel love he has to go for the outer trappings. I love you so I'm always with you..giving you what you want and need. That's not love but Howard can not feel love and he can not feel sexual love. The reason we probably haven't heard of an ex girlfriend or boyfriend is probably because there aren't any.
Virgie/Larry I think Virgie is still angry over the hearing. I think she expected more support from Larry and didn't get it. We've talked alot about how Perper and Millstein acted towards Howie at the funeral well Larry was also up in his face as was Debra Opri. I think Virgie should not have pushed Anna being buried in Texas. She had 15 years of Anna saying she wanted nothing to do with Texas against her and her lawyers should have told her that. Her lawyers did a terrible job. As I've said before they should have had her prepared for those financial questions. Why?? Because they should have been ready to use the same line of questions on Howard. The amount of money that he had made totally outnumbered the amount Virgie had made. Plus Virgie could have said (which I'm sure is true) that she did it to pay respects to the grandson that she had not seen in over 10 years. I think at this point it's every man/woman for themselves. If L or V get Dannielynn I don't expect either to cut the other one of the child's life completely.
Larry/Opri She was fired and was trying to save face regarding some of her comments. I think Larry did briefly entertain striking a deal with Stern. I think it came from frustration with how slow things were going in California.
Virgie/Daniel I think Virgie gave Daniel his good foundation. That being said...they had not seen each other in many years. The reason why they had Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles at a 20 year old man's funeral is because that's where the relationship ended. She had no idea what kind of man Daniel had become and I blame Anna for that.
I'm ready for DNA to be done and Larry to take his baby if it's his. If it's G. Ben Thompson then he needs to step up...get his child...and kick Stern out on his pyschopathic a**!!
It seems to me that right about the time we heard the first leaks that Opri and Birkhead were having troubles, that was when O'Quinn first started saying talking disparagingly about both Birkhead and Stern.
Perhaps she "hated sex" THAT day...
KE says his results will probably lean toward mysterious. Somehow, I think he tripped her up and it won't be mysterious at all.
The mere fact that she got called in after weeks of "results tomorrow" tells me he doesn't want in any way to leave it as a mystery. He wants to connect it to Daniel's death by drugs, amounts, time and access.
All that won't be in the report but he needs all that if he is going to be the Primary Witness in a murder trial. If she was given something 2 minutes before death and she was already doped, she wouldn't have been capable of giving herself the 2 minute hit.
He will have to stay at the Vet's overnight, and we HAVE to go out of town Thursday..
I just can't bring him there tomorrow...pick him up Tuesday and bring him there again on Wednesday.. He's a free spirit, and locking him up at the Vets for over 5 nights with tests is what he faces..
Don't worry...I'm watching him carefully. He's still eating and doesn't ACT sick except for the drinking.
I hear you, and thank you all for your loving concern. Hugs.
sw
What is unbelievable is that all of these 800 numbers are RECORDINGS! And they don't tell you what to expect or do preemptively.
Wonder if Opri would have been a better fit/atty for
Virgie?
I don't think O'Quinn was very effective in the Seidlin hearing and Virgie had far more weight as the mother than Larry had as only a "potential" father at the time.
Think Opri would have had more leverage as Virgie's atty and would have used it.
Well too bad.
Just checking to see if Howie is still a free gay man or if he has been cuffed in lace yet!
Anna Nicole Smith 'Murder' Investigation Trudges Along
By Nancy Streets
Mar 18, 2007
Some call it murder. However, don't expect the police to yet say they are investigating a murder of Anna Nicole Smith. That's quite standard and though they are not saying publicly their inquiries have become a murder investigation, it is now clear police are exploring whether the 39-year-old's shock death was anything but accidental. Officials from the Bahamas and from the United States are now combining efforts in the investigation.
Anna Nicole Smith 'Murder' Investigation Trudges Along
A report from the Sunday Telegraph notes: Seminole Tribe police have met Broward County (Florida) prosecutors to assess whether they have sufficient grounds for search warrants to the computer files, The Miami Herald has learned. Smith's computers, removed from her home in the Bahamas following her death, could be a crucial element in the probe of the former Playmate's death.
Seminole police have the computers, but are concerned about examining them because it's not clear whether they were obtained legally.
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Still caution is the word of the day for authorities. The Broward County State Attorney's spokesman Ron Ishoy says, "We are continuing to help law enforcement agencies and the medical examiner as they try and figure out the nature of this death. This is not a homicide investigation." Broward County's chief medical examiner Dr. Joshua Perper was scheduled to announce Smith's cause of death last week but was forced to delay his findings after new evidence was given to him by the Seminole tribal police.
Perper announced last week that he wasn't aware of any criminal probe into the model's passing, but he hoped to release his findings in the upcoming week.
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Add to that, there is also a March 26 inquest scheduled in Nassau into the sudden death in September 2006 of her Smith's 20-year-old son, Daniel. Last week, it was revealed that the Seminole police had two new pieces of evidence in the case that they wanted to explore, thus holding up the Broward medical examiner's final report on the case.
The former Playboy model was found dead in her suite at the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Florida on February 8. Smith is now buried next to her son Daniel in the Bahamas.
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272612174.shtml
Being Scene - Anna Nicole Smith and Serendipity
March 18, 2007
by J. W. Arnold
Over the past month, America has watched a soap opera unfold: the untimely death of former Playboy model and reality television star Anna Nicole Smith and the media circus surrounding the legal battle over her final resting place, custody of her daughter and, ultimately, a stake in the potential multimillion-dollar estate.
I was in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., when television stations interrupted their regular programs to report that the model had been found unconscious in her room at the nearby Seminole Hard Rock Casino and Hotel. Within minutes of the announcement, my phone began ringing as friends across the country called for the latest updates.
I never saw Smith’s spreads in Playboy magazine and only remotely recall seeing the blurbs in the papers announcing the model’s 1994 marriage to octogenarian billionaire J. Howard Marshall. But, like many Americans, I did get sucked into her reality television show on E! Network.
Reality television was still in its infancy and it seemed obvious that the impact was lost on Smith, who appeared frequently to be under the influence of alcohol or drugs as she slurred her speech and stumbled around her multimillion-dollar Los Angeles mansion. Her life was dysfunctional and the daily dilemmas, like decorating her bedroom or going to an amusement park, almost pedantic; yet, America tuned in. Smith’s contributions to society were questionable (unless you were a heterosexual, middle-aged man who read Playboy) and she, like Paris Hilton and so many others today, had become famous for being famous.
As a gay man, I guess there was a natural attraction to Anna Nicole Smith. She was the personification of camp, from her clothes to the pink feathers that adorned the pillows in her pink bedroom. She was over the top without even realizing it(or maybe she did). She became a sharp-tongued drag queen every time she donned makeup. If you don’t believe me, just look at the hospital pictures after the birth of her daughter.
Anna’s body lay in the Broward County Morgue, just a few miles from my Fort Lauderdale condo, for three weeks as the courts struggled with the question of where she would be buried.
The court proceedings reinforced, once again, the case against cameras in courtrooms. The judge, a friend tells me, was a great guy who just got a little swept up in the drama. His “performance”—and it was—could not have helped his career. Then there was the mother, who turned out to be exactly what one would have expected from a small-town former sheriff’s deputy. Throw in the photographer ex-boyfriend with Hollywood good looks and the longtime lawyer, who obviously held a long crush on his employer, and well, you’ve got quite a cast of characters.
Finally the judge made his ruling and allowed Smith to be buried next to her son, Daniel, in the Bahamas. Within a day, the body was released and flown to Nassau for a Friday service that would draw thousands of curious tourists and Bahamians who found their tiny island nation under a global spotlight.
Whether it was fate or just plain serendipity, my boyfriend and I ended up in Nassau on Saturday morning, the day after pop culture icon Anna Nicole Smith was finally laid to rest.
On arrival in Nassau, we took a cab to the cemetery (the driver knew exactly where to go), hoping to get there early and avoid the crowds. After all, just a day before, throngs of fans, tourists and admirers had lined the streets to catch a glimpse of the spectacle.
As the cab pulled in to Lakeview Memorial Garden, we were shocked to discover an empty cemetery, save for two security guards dispatched to protect the still fresh pink roses piled on the site. Apparently, we were the first to visit her gravesite since the ceremonies the day before. Maybe we were the first eager homos to make the pilgrimage to Anna’s grave (assuming that queeny interior designer Bobby Trendy, the snake who dissed Anna Nicole in the media for the past three weeks, hadn’t attended in an effort to extend his five minutes of fame just a moment longer).
Fame apparently is fleeting and the armed guards at the gravesite barely batted an eye as we took photos and even climbed onto a nearby gazebo to get an aerial view.
Now that Anna Nicole has been laid to rest, I suspect she will finally rest in peace as the media circus turns its attention to the inevitable custody battle and Anna’s estate.
Anna Nicole was a stunning beauty who found her place in the pop culture of today. Now history will be the judge. In any case, for a moment, we had our brush with fame....
http://www.campkc.com/campkc-content.php?Page_ID=468
I hope Moe and Taz take notes because I truly think they had an affection for her. King and Brigitte had really only known Anna for a short time.
Let's see if part of this involves a hit on Larry, a hit on the Thompsons...you get the idea.
Why gay men love Anna Nicole
Being Scene - Anna Nicole Smith and Serendipity
March 18, 2007
by J. W. Arnold
http://www.campkc.com/campkc-content.php?Page_ID=468
~SNIPPET~
As a gay man, I guess there was a natural attraction to Anna Nicole Smith. She was the personification of camp, from her clothes to the pink feathers that adorned the pillows in her pink bedroom. She was over the top without even realizing it(or maybe she did). She became a sharp-tongued drag queen every time she donned makeup. If you don’t believe me, just look at the hospital pictures after the birth of her daughter.
Ugh...
I'll let you hunt the headlines (LOL)
Camp:
camp has four meanings:
1. banality so extreme it is funny.
2. to talk in an affected nasal voice.
3. to mimic or exaggerate female mannerisms.
4. to use a sarcastic humour with gay references.
Whether one decides to affect camp behaviour is clearly a choice. This may be the root of the myth that homosexuality itself is a choice. You decide whether to act on your attractions, but you don't decide your attractions.
Why bother to camp? Why humiliate yourself with this degrading self-parody? It is frustrating for closeted gays to keep up the front of being heterosexual. Camping is a way to unwind and say, “F_ _k you world. I can do whatever I want.” Camping though is dangerous because it can end up giving away the closet gay. He may let loose an accidental campy expression or “fabulous” in straight company without thinking if he indulges in it in gay company.
Some out gays camp too, as a way of showing fearlessness, of thumbing their noses at gay bashers.
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:MSaiCfxjTx8J:mindprod.com/ggloss/camp.html+camp+gay&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
Did you see this one...
Sorrow follows the Pied Piper of addiction
BY MARILYN MONOHAN-HOPKINS
SPECIAL TO THE STAR-BANNER
It's a sad day when a woman who has gone to such great lengths to destroy herself by following the tune of the drug-alluring Pied Piper is buried with such fanfare and prominence. What a fine message we send to our children and their children.
Anna Nicole Smith (christened Victoria Lynn) not only destroyed herself but managed to break the hearts of everyone who genuinely loved and cared for her welfare, especially her mother, Vergie.
~SNIP~ more at link
http://www.ocala.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070318/OPINION/203180337/1183/OPINION
But Seidlin asked Howard about drugs, money, and marriage. Howard said:
1. "He wasn't a Doctor" but "I've seen her a lot worse than that"
2. Wasn't making a penny BUT there was a corporation
3. "Anna wanted to get married but he didn't because it wouldn't look right." (So he decided that producing an illegitimate child WOULD look better)
I wonder if Howard asked her to abort the baby and/or was trying to make that happen via meds. Well, gosh golly, maybe God played a hand and we just didn't see it. Wonder what KE was prescribing at that time.
Not much out there. Research or deal with what we already have seems to be what is on the menu today unless we get breaking news sometime today.
I agree with TrishSC's perspective. I think Larry did entertain a deal with Stern because it was not going well in the States. However, I don't think there is any deal now. I also agree that Stern is not gay.
That said, Trendy might the type who thinks ALL men are closet homo's..
sw
No. They are two very distinctly different conditions. My brother has Chrohns. It is is considered an IBD (Intestinal Bowel DISEASE) I have IBS (Irritable Bowel SYNDROME). IBS is not a disease but a group of symptoms of a bowel not functioning correctly but science does not yet know why that happens.
The Chrohn's and IBS are not connected. IBS is not hereditary but Crohn's does have a hereditary component to it. It is prevalent amongst those of Jewish ancestry. BTW, my brother is not Jewish so it does afflict other nationalities, too but not as prevalently.
With IBS the colon looks perfectly normal in a colonoscopy but people with IBS find it difficult to eat many foods, in particular fats which cause the colon to be overstimulated in normal people but in those with IBS the colon goes completely haywire. The result is chronic diarrehea or constipation or sometimes both alternating. IBS can be controlled with a proper diet. With Chrohns medicine is required and sometimes surgery even to the point of removing the entire colon.
Courts to release trial tapes online
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2007-03-18-court-records_N.htm
XO
Ah ha!
Does HK$ perhaps have a colonoscopy bag? That might explain his apprehension about sexual activity. He seems awfully young.
Poor thing.
Larry's comment? I don't what that is but Jackie Hattan said it last night on one of those shows...possibly the one Geraldo ran but I'm not sure of that. Jackie said that Howard used to take ANS to gay bars all of the time. She was asked if that meant male gay bars (I guess versus lesbian gay bars) and Jackie said it was male gay bars.
He very well could have a colostomy bag depending on how advanced his Crohn's (if he has it) is. He also may be on steroids from time to time as prednisone is often prescribed to get and keep the Crohn's in remission.
BTW Jackie Hatten stated point blank that Stern is gay.
Thanks windchime for pointing that out to me!
Trendy
I do like Bobby's lip gloss..
sw
She can state it but that doesn't prove it's the truth. I've heard people state point blank that our president was complicit with bringing down the towers on 911. Unless she's seen him take some salami she's just stating her opinion. An opinion which I will give you that alot of people agree with. I do think he took her to gay bars. I'm sure they treated Anna like a queen and she loved that. In Hollywood it doesn't pay to ignore the gays...look at Isaiah Washington. If you speak out about it you end up in a Concentration camp. Plus in gay bars you've got the great music and the drugs. I just don't think the fact that Hatten said he's gay makes it so. I think he's asexual and if it furthers his agenda he'll do anything and anyone but I just don't see him as being sexual at all and that's what Larry meant when he said in response to the question of Howie being the dad. But hey what do I know..I swore up and down that Katie Holmes was wearing a pillow because Tom was shooting blanks. But that kid looks like Tom all the way.
Leaving the courthouse last night Laryy was asked why he thought Howard was not the father of Dannylynn. Larry replied, "There is only ONE way to make a baby"
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:Ih7QDKUfl8IJ:blogs.nbcuni.com/AHBlog/2007/02/scoring_larry_birkhead_on_the.php+There+is+only+one+way+to+make+a+baby+birkhead&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
What about the bangs, lol?
OH? I hadn't heard that before. Thanks for that info.
Oh - I don't know the answer to that question. I would think not....but don't know.
From gallertyoftheabsurd.com
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Read post 4,976. I believe Jackie also said that she went with them but I'm not positive about that.
I never took that to infer that Stern was gay. I took it to mean that Larry was saying he had sex with ANS and Stern did not. Nothing more or less that that.
The Insider has been pre-empted here in favor of the basketball games, so hasn't been on the past few weekdays.
I am really looking forward to seeing the ET thing on KE, since I saw the tease on Friday with the *different* drug fax they confronted her with. I thought all weekend that *someone* would have jumped on it and released the details, but I haven't seen anything on it.
KE is now being paid for her ET *exclusive* interviews, just like Howie - not as much, I'm sure. But now we know what to expect.
Saw another special on ANS last night, put out by Access Hollywood, but I didn't know that until it started. It was called ANS: Centerfold Exposed. It was just a compilation of all the AH interviews with case people. I had seen them all in some shape or form elsewhere, which is strange because I've never been able to find when or where AH comes on here normally.
Their quick-cut editing makes my head spin and I feel like I'm going to have those animé flash brain seizures like the Japanese school children had. It is a very low-budget show and has to pick to find its subjects. I'm sorry that they are Larry's showcase, but they obviously don't pay him, anyway.
They catch him in the car or walking or doing other things - like in their limo on the way to the toy store, but not actually *in* the store or doing the shopping. So, I didn't get to see his parents, which is what I had hoped for.
It was just a strange show, with a probably 3-minute or more infomerical for acne cream about 5 minutes into it. I thought my remote had changed the station in the middle of the program, but I waited it out and they went right on with ANS after that.
Oh, I did get to see the interview where Moe got mad and walked out - hadn't seen that when others described it. It was after a question about ANS and drugs, lol. They all still insist - like she did to LKL about going to Betty Ford - that ANS didn't do any drugs. She took painkillers, but never did drugs. LOLOLOLOLOLOLMAO.
Also, they had an interview with Kapoor and he said Dannielynn wasn't born with any drugs in her system and did not have to detox - had no problems at all, just healthy and happy. Last time he talked to ANS? May 2006!!
I saw lots of postings saying KE had spent "most of ANS's pregnancy" with her, in The Bahamas. Sure didn't know *that.* So weird that she was only in one ET video, at Christmas. Sort of like BonBon saying she spent 2 years with ANS every single day - and there has not been one photo shown anywhere of the two of them together.
As I understand it, KE is also in The Bahamas now with HKS and the baby. Ugh. Guess she takes over when Gerlene goes to her own house or something - IF Dannielynn is even living at Horizons - who knows.
Still anxious to find out the info on this other KE fax or memo, because it lists more new *medications* other than the extra two new ones I posted Friday. Maybe it's in the weekend edition and I can hear it again before the actual show. If so, I'll post in the wee hours, if it comes on.
I still don't see that is showing that HKS is gay. I've gone to a gay bar (male) in Columbia. The picture of Anna with Kapoor was in a gay bar I believe and guess who was there with his camera...Larry. I just don't see that as proof positive. I want Jackie to name names. She's got to have more of a reason for thinking he's gay than that.
ps...it was actually a bar that had gay men and gay women. It was like walking into stereotypeland. The women were in the back listening to mellow music all dressed in plaid...the guys were in the front listening to disco/techno and having a blast. I'd rather hang out with gay men than gay women. The women are angry and boring.
Fine. You disagree and you don't believe Jackie. I get that. But don't shoot the messenger. I only reported what I saw and heard. FWIW I believe Jackie because I don't see why it would help her personally to make that up.
I'm not attacking you or shooting you. I'm sorry if you see it that way but that's not the case.
It does appear to be only the (wet) canned or pouch type foods. Here's another list.
http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/irol/19/196265/Customer_Handout.pdf
This was from the second day of HKS testimony on February 21, 2007, concerning drug use and prescribing doctors.
JO=John O'Quinn (Virgie's attorney questioning) --------------------------------------------------
Seidlin: You guys always want to narrow it. I appreciate that. Since, during the year 2000 and up to today’s date, what medications did she place in her body?
HKS: Your Honor, I couldn’t be sure of every medication that she placed in her body.
Seidlin: Well, tell me a few.
HKS: I know that at times she was on a medication called Topomax.
Seidlin: What’s that?
HKS: I’m not a doctor, your Honor.
Seidlin: Alright, what else?
JO: Say that again, please.
HKS: Topomax
JO: Sopomax?
Seidlin: Topo, Topo
JO: Topomax, thank you.
Seidlin: Your welcome. What else?
HKS: [shaking head] Your Honor, is this really necessary?
Seidlin: Well, you know, you came knocking on my door, or somebody did at 5 minutes to 12 last week
HKS: Your Honor, there’s a tape out there that shows her when you look on that tape….[talking at the same time as Seidlin]
Seidlin: It’s necessary. I find it to be necessary. You heard why. You are a lawyer. You heard the legal arguments. I’ve ruled.
HKS: It’s not right to do to somebody after they’re died, when it comes to where they are to be buried.
Seidlin: I think you need to advise your client to respond to the court’s questions, cause I don’t want to get into an argument with him. You can quietly come up here and talk to him. I don’t need to argue with him. Because you’ve been so cooperative.
[Barth approaches witness stand and whispers to Stern. Stern covers the microphone.]
Unknown voice: Your Honor, during this lull……
Seidlin: No, no, during this lull, I’m resting my mind for a second.
[Stern point to the door, gets up and he and Barth head for the back of the room]
Deb Opri: Your Honor, let the record reflect that Mr. Stern is leaving the witness stand to consult with an attorney, during testimony, with a question pending.
Seidlin: No, no, no leaving.
Krista Barth: We are trying to get a away from a microphone, actually.
Seidlin: Just, just…..you’ve told him, he’s instructed to answer the questions. Let’s proceed. Thanks Miss Barth, you’re fine.
Seidlin: Were there times that she went into drug rehabilitation centers?
HKS: She went into Betty Ford, um…..with….[points toward Virgie].
Seidlin: Year and place.
HKS: I’m not sure the exact year, it was before I was around.
Seidlin: It was prior to 2000? 1996?
HKS: It was prior to that.
Seidlin: Did she go into rehab centers after 1996?
HKS: Not into a rehab center, no.
Seidlin: Did she need to go in a rehab center?
HKS: I guess that would be open to interpretation.
Seidlin: Well, what was your interpretation?
HKS: Anna Nicole took prescription medication, at times for depression. She did.
Seidlin: Did she have more than one doctor prescribing these drugs?
HKS: Not that I’m aware of.
Seidlin: These drugs all came from one doctor?
HKS: Well, at different times she had different doctors. She had, when, are you saying…
Seidlin: I’m asking, did she have prescription drugs, at the same time from different doctors? Where they get multiple drugs from different doctors. Doctor A doesn’t know Doctor B prescribed drugs, so they are sitting there with the pharmacy……
HKS: I don’t know. She had more than one doctor. I believe her doctors knew about each other.
Seidlin: I’m gonna briefly allow you to get into this. You may begin now, Texas.
JO: Thank you. Where were the drugs kept inside the home?
HKS: Which home?
JO: The one that Anna Nicole owned that you lived in with her.
HKS: In California, you got to give me a timeframe.
JO: In the Bahamas.
Seidlin: [to O’Quinn] You want to go more recently, to the Bahamas? Fine, in the Bahamas.
HKS: She kept um her medications in two drawers in the bathroom.
Seidlin: Could you have stopped her from taking these drugs, from these prescription drugs? Could you have stopped it?
HKS: Your Honor, your Honor, after her son passed away….
Seidlin: Prior.
HKS: I talked to her about it. I mean, I talked to her about it and she did cut down a lot on the medication that she took. Can anybody stop someone else entirely? I mean we’re jumping the gun here, because…
Seidlin: Well, I’m jumping. I’m jumping the gun. I got a gun to my head, I’ve got to decide by Friday at noon.
HKS: Anna, when she made her decisions, was pretty clear in her decisions, and I don’t think that medication influenced her decisions. I mean it’s not like Anna was medicated all the time. And it’s not like she couldn’t talk. I mean she had… she formed an intent. She made her intent clear and she made it clear to many people.
Seidlin: That video we say the other day, is that her normal state of addressing someone?
HKS: What you saw on .the...on the video? Yeah, that’s how Anna Nicole talks. That’s how she’s talked since I’ve known her. [Long pause] I mean, there are times when she’s more impaired than that…..
Seidlin: More impaired than that?
HKS: There ARE times…..
Seidlin: Was she impaired in that?
HKS: No, I don’t think she was…..
Seidlin: You just said ‘more impaired than that’,
HKS: Right, more impaired than that…..exactly.
Seidlin: Was she impaired, was she under the influence then?
HKS: No, I don’t think so.
Seidlin: But you just said to me ‘she was more impaired than that’
HKS: I’m saying that her…
Seidlin: She was under the influence a little bit?
HKS: No, no. What I said to you is that she formed her thoughts. She knew what she wanted. There was no question.
Seidlin: I could have the court reporter read this back. But I don’t want to spend a half an hour reading it back.
HKS: Your Honor, by ‘more impaired than that’, I did not mean that she was impaired at the time she made that statement. You asked me, ‘was that her normal frame of mind?’ And what I was trying to get across, is there were times that with medication she was impaired. But, in terms of where she wanted to be laid to rest, next to her son…there is no question.
Seidlin: No, no, no….don’t give me conclusions. Alright, I appreciate that, I don’t want conclusions. Unfortunately, or fortunately, it’s the court’s ultimate conclusion. Um, you may proceed.
JO: Thank you. The drugs where y’all lived at the house you presently live in the Bahamas, were kept in two drawers in the bathroom. Correct? Sir?
HKS: For the most part, yes.
JO: Where else were they kept? You said, ‘for the most part’, they must have been kept some other place too?
HKS: In terms of medication that she took, after Daniel passed, they were either in two drawers in the bathroom, or there were um, it would have been on uh, the uh cabinet in the bathroom.
Seidlin: Did Danny try to stop her from taking drugs?
HKS: Did Daniel try to?
Seidlin: Yes.
HKS: Daniel tried to talk to his mom about that, yes.
Seidlin: Did he ever have success for any days?
HKS: That’s what I’m saying, is that it’s not like Anna was impaired….
Seidlin: Well, can you answer that question? Did Danny have any success when he spoke to her about taking drugs?
HKS: She…she would go back and forth, depending on what was going on in her life. And when she was more stressed out, she would take more medication.
Seidlin: Did she ever get psychiatric care or psychological care?
HKS: Yes.
Seidlin: How recent was that?
HKS: She…she had a psychologist…..
Seidlin: What year? Year and place.
HKS: And a …..actually she had psychiatrists after Daniel’s passing.
Seidlin: How about prior? HKS: I….I believe she had a psychia…..she had a psychologist…through the….
Seidlin: What state?
HKS: I’m not really sure. He might have been California. It wasn’t somebody who I didn’t know very well.
Seidlin: And that would have been since your arrival with her in 1996?
HKS: No, he actually knew her before….before I did.
Seidlin: And she continued to see him as a patient?
HKS: Uh, off and on. But I believe that ended um around…..
Seidlin: What year?
HKS: I want to say around 2000.
Seidlin: Phrase to me, or give your impression of her mental state.
HKS: I think that Anna had a very clear head at times. I think at other times, her head was not as clear.
Seidlin: And why wasn’t it clear?
HKS: Well, I mean, a lot of times it would be from stress. A lot of times it would be just because she couldn’t deal with the pressure that she was put under.
Seidlin: And when her head wasn’t clear, was it, was drugs contributing to that fog?
HKS: Sometimes, sometimes not. Sometimes not. But…..I mean, Anna…
Seidlin: Was it difficult for you to pull her out of that maze?
HKS: After…after Daniel passed….
Seidlin: Prior to Danny, prior to Danny’s death….prior, prior to Danny’s death…Danny’s death….
HKS: The court litigation…
Seidlin: Danny’s death would wipe out anybody.
HKS: The court litigation put a lot of pressure on her.
Seidlin: Just to clear the air. Parents do not want to pre-decease their child. You can proceed.
JO: Thank you. Is it a fact that one of the drugs she took was methadone?
HKS: She took Methadone, but not during….in my presence for sure not over the last five months.
JO: She took Methadone prior to the last five months?
HKS: She did.
JO: And um, are you aware that Methadone is a narcotic?
HKS: Sir, I know it’s a prescription medicine. It may or may not be a narcotic.
JO: Who is the doctor that you say prescribed the drugs?
HKS: [looks at Seidlin] It was a doctor named Dr. Kapoor.
Seidlin: Was he in the Bahamas?
HKS: No, he was…he was um….
JO: How do you spell that man’s name?
HKS: Well, it’s all over the media. His name is I believe it’s K-A-P-O-O-R.
JO: How about Doctor Christian?
HKS: Christian?
JO: Did you ever know a doctor, a man named Christian that had anything to do with her drugs?
HKS: I don’t know a Dr. Christian.
JO: OK, did she take also a drug known as hydromorphine? morphone? Did she also take for pain a narcotic by the name of hydromorphone or….?
HKS: I’m not….I’m not familiar….
JO: Or, OR…. Dia--la—u-did..
HKS: [correcting his pronunciation] Dilaudid.
JO: Yes.
HKS: There were times when she took Dilaudid. I’m not familiar with the other one, but it’s possible. But again, let me explain here…
JO: You’ve got to….
HKS: I have a feeling what’s going on….
Seidlin: What are you doing?
HKS: [looks at Seidlin] Oh, forget it. Go on.
Ron Rale: Your Honor, an objection here. In California we have something called evidence code 352, prejudicial.
Seidlin: Where else do you want to go here. I’m with you Rale. I’m not, I’m stopping it.
RR: OK. Thank you.
Seidlin: Where else do you want to go with him?
JO: On the matter of drugs? The other drugs she was taking.
HKS: Let me just say that she didn’t take all of these at the same time.
I went in search of an answer to a question I had...checked for it on the Court TV forums, because I can do a proper search there and the folks obsessed with court cases are usually a good source of information...aghhhh...what a nightmare...apparently the moderator is so fed up with the place, she won't even moderate the ANS forum .... a very large number of people there think HKS is a 'stand up guy'.
It's really interesting looking at his testimony in retrospect....isn't it?
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