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Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys
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Yes I have. It is disturbing, to be sure. Some posters on one thread said that they had their usual amount buzzing around, though. Maybe it’s regional?
Apparently, the laws in Florida are very specific as to who has standing to file a wrongful death suit. The exact wording of the FL law has been posted on the board a couple of times in the past, but I cannot remember who posted it.
“No..... but a grandparent CAN try to rescue a ten-year-old child from a druggie parent. Happens all the time in this country.”
Theoretically, yes. In reality, in Southern California, if CPS were convinced by a complaint from a grandparent residing out of state that there were sufficient cause to remove a ten year old from his biological mother, the ten year old would NOT be turned over to the out of state grandmother, but would become a ward of the foster home system in the county of residence.
If the ten year old were depressed from previous separations from his mother and indicated as much he might be taken to a county hospital adolescent psychiatric unit for evaluation and treatment prior to placement with a foster family. His stay with the foster family would continue depending on the length of investigation, findings, assessment of mother’s drug involvement and Family Court recommendations re mother’s requirements to resume visitation or be elegible to be considered forthe child’s return. He could have been in foster care for a week to the rest of his life. The CPS agency’s determination of the child’s exposure or endangerment and/or availability of non-drug involved persons in the mother’s house would determine the length of recommendations by the agency to the court (which almost always rubber stamps the social workers’ recommendations).
In short, Virgie could have started a gigantic system churning and the only thing certain would be that Daniel would have left his mother for some time, no guaranted that he would have been removed to any better place and no guarantee that he would not have been abused or molested in his foster placement or that when he was returned to his mother (much angrier and more bitter), and certainly no guarantee than when returned his mother would have changed one iota. Sometimes workers just get tired of problematic cases with older children and other significant people like HKS and KE coming forward to vouch for providing “care.”
So, in theory yes, in practice . . . It’s like the happily ever after at the end of movies. It happens in movies. In real life referrals to CPS are a cr@p shoot. A law enforcement person would have known this or would have been told this about the LA county system. Having worked several decades in the system of which I am writing, I don’t believe VA had a realistic shot at “saving Daniel.”
“Seems like we’ve been here before, and before that, and I do believe back when DL was about 1 month old.”
Sorry...I guess missed that. I was traveling in Europe for a few months in the fall and missed those posts.
“””Sorry...I guess missed that. I was traveling in Europe for a few months in the fall and missed those posts.”””
No need to be sorry. I should have typed ‘when DL was about 4 months old.
No flooding, I hope! You all have really had more than your share of storms lately.
“””try to rescue a ten-year-old child from a druggie parent”””
IIRC didn’t Virgie take Anna for rehab when Daniel was about 10 years-old (1996)?
Your commentary on the system is appreciated and frightening.
Well, then, Trisha... Virgie shouldn’t go on National TV and badmouth Larry.
That and, perhaps, start prosecuting users... though it seems they get their drugs while in jail just fine.
Glad you survived
Bite you tongue that Donald Hogan ever gets withing 100 yards of that child.
Around March 20th - I posted this comment:
After the circus leaves town and custody is awarded to Larry Birkhead as the natural father, with visitation rights for Virgie and Donald Hogan, the biological grandparents...
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See posting date following Greta’s Texas interview and pre-Donna Hogan’s revalations ..... who knew?
HKS "may" be responsible for Daniels demise, but ANS bares a whole lot of the blame as well.
Did you watch the media reports when the H. Marshall trial took place in Texas??? If you did then you understand why I say as a grandmother I would have started fighting for his custody based on what I observed during that period.. it continued on to California and the other trials that followed... my heart broke for that child.. he had no childhood, he was the parent in that relationship.
True in Florida a parent cannot, a child can.... I said when we found that out and I say it again — go for the inquest.... push, push and push some more to make certain it takes place and soon.
The political party that ANS brought down..... won’t the Gibson’s love that image.
Glad to see you here.... and safe.
I am against “using” that child for any reason at this point... she and Larry need to fade off into memory and live their lives... this fight has shifted now and it’s Virgie v Howie... as it should be.
That’s rediculous.... I am anti-using Dannielynn just to get vengence — especially when I think that baby is currently in a much better place than she was in on February 7th.
Good to hear! I heard it was rough.
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