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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

Thread Number 3


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To: fatima

IIRC Milstein is making a claim for $175,000 from DL Stern’s trust fund of $200,000. Since Stern was the trustee - at the time of the Seidlin hearing (paternity had not yet been established) it has to be Stern’s problem.


17,341 posted on 10/13/2007 8:19:20 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: fatima

Have been searching for verification of the Milstein request for payment - cannot find ANYTHING - Greta does refer to it on her blog.

Found this - which may explain why Seidlin chose this guy as GAL!!!!!!

http://www.akerman.com/public/attorneys/aBiography.asp?id=488

Additional Practice Areas
Alternative Family Planning, Children’s Rights, Elder Law, Probate Law, Same Sex Couple Planning, Mediation

Experience
Mr. Milstein in his eclectic practice of over 30 years has handled very complex and high profile guardianship and probate matters. Family law is a specialty where he has not only represented clients of significant means, but has been called upon to represent the children in disputed relationships. As the only Board Certified Elder Law attorney in Miami-Dade County, Mr. Milstein is able to advise clients on all aspects of their life and estate planning for the elderly, for alternative families and for same sex couples
_____________________________________________________
What did Seidlin know, and when did he know it?? Mmmmmmm?


17,342 posted on 10/13/2007 8:57:34 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle

hahaha


17,343 posted on 10/13/2007 9:05:00 AM PDT by meanie monster
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To: Sacajaweau

“””I’m a mathematician””

I used to use actuarial tables for insurance quotes;)

Interesting observation by Gloria Allred on Fox(?) she noted that the Search Warrants servers included the California Department of Insurance!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think this is HUGE! We know that Howie & Anna would not have filed MEDICAL claims..probably didn’t even carry health insurance.

BUT - what about those SEVEN LIFE insurance policies that O’Quinn referred to? Insurance fraud? Have to add that to my list;)


17,344 posted on 10/13/2007 9:05:22 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle

Oh he knew.If we look back he knew everything.He just wanted to get some facts out.If I were Stern I would not mess Milstein.


17,345 posted on 10/13/2007 9:09:01 AM PDT by fatima
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To: sodpoodle

I would venture a guess that a life insurance policy (or two) were on Daniels life. A policy on a young person costs hardly anything at all. When Howie stated there was no insurance, did he (or whomever) say that he didn’t take a policy out or that there were none?


17,346 posted on 10/13/2007 9:10:53 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: gopheraj

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0703/01/ng.01.html

NANCY GRACE

Aired March 1, 2007 - 20:00:00 ET

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. How are you?

GRACE: I`m fine, dear. What`s your question?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just want to know if there was any life insurance, and who`s the beneficiary.

GRACE: Smart guy!~ You know, we have not talked about that one time — maybe way back at the beginning. With us tonight is John O`Quinn. This is one of Virgie Arthur`s attorneys. He is a veteran trial lawyer. Mr. O`Quinn, thank you for being with us.

JOHN O`QUINN, ATTORNEY FOR VIRGIE ARTHUR: You`re welcome.

GRACE: Was there a life insurance policy in any form?

O`QUINN: I`ve been told by sources that should know the truth that there were seven life insurance policies on Anna Nicole`s life, and the beneficiary was her son, who died under suspicious circumstances, and the alternative beneficiary is Stern.

GRACE: Did you say several or several?

O`QUINN: Seven, I`m told.

GRACE: Whew! OK. Were they paid up?

O`QUINN: I`m told they were paid up and in full force, and the primary beneficiary was her son, who died under very suspicious circumstances.

GRACE: Mr. O`Quinn, it gets curiouser and curiouser, does it not?

O`QUINN: Oh, yes, it does. This is all about money.

GRACE: Seven life insurance policies, all going to Stern. All right. Mr. O`Quinn, question. I understand that last night, there was finally the meeting between your client, Virgie Arthur, and the baby, Dannielynn. What happened?


17,347 posted on 10/13/2007 9:30:56 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle
Hey...Wait until they get to the books...and transferring funds within a certain time period prior to death and prior to filing bankruptcy...and then there have to be jewelers involved...

KE as Anna's trusted friend isn't working. I'm sure she has bills.

I think Howard, Larry and KE...will be very quiet for a while. And the attorneys will go silent.

Pandora's Box has been opened.

HOward's parents have been quiet. I believe they knew the day would come.

17,348 posted on 10/13/2007 9:33:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: gopheraj

I’ll bet it was mandatory that Trimspa carry a policy on her....and Howard was the beneficiary.


17,349 posted on 10/13/2007 9:36:44 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: gopheraj
Any insurance company that has paid out money on Anna can come forward. I'll even bet they had their own investigators on it. It may be that her policies were taken out by KE (and paid by her)..with KE and Howard as beneficiaries. Who knows?

So, at the time of Seidlin's court, it may be that they had not submitted for payment...and therefore...there was no insurance money.

KInda like Howard's: "Under Bahama Law, I am the father".

17,350 posted on 10/13/2007 9:42:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Sacajaweau; sodpoodle

I bet you are right, Sacajaweau. Sodpoodle, (or anyone) what comments were made by HKS or assoc after O’Quinn made those about the life insurance. I know some were made but for the life of me, I can’t remember! :(


17,351 posted on 10/13/2007 9:44:54 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: Sacajaweau

Thanks. parsing those widdle words. HKS is very capable.


17,352 posted on 10/13/2007 9:47:30 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: gopheraj
Howard has a specific gesture when he wants to give out "exactly what he rehearsed". He knew he was going to get the question....but the agreement with Seidlin was that he wouldn't be asked if he was the "biological father".

Seidlin said it: "We won't go there". "We agreed that we wouldn't go there". (Who's the "WE".

17,353 posted on 10/13/2007 9:54:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Sacajaweau

“””Pandora’s Box has been opened.”””

There is no way he can cover his tracks. His appetite was bigger than his brain. Narcissist - believed he had prepared the ultimate banquet - two main courses, presented superbly....but left a mess in the kitchen!!!

Ask the hired help!


17,354 posted on 10/13/2007 9:58:42 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: Dante3

“””This reminds me of a true crime show where a guy who had been stalking a woman in South Carolina and ends up killing her and assuming her identity.””

Agree! Tried to find that case - a Charleston socialite & educator - young man wanted to become her - he was caught coming out of her home - very strange!!!


17,355 posted on 10/13/2007 10:34:03 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle
Thinking about KE and the houses. I remember the article about each of them decorating a room in the other's house. Betcha there's lotsa videos.

Still don't really know how the relationship between KE and Anna started. I have a feeling she's connected to the Stern family somehow. Just a gut feeling. We know Rale lived on the same street as Howard when they were kids. Maybe we have to connect KE to Rale??

17,356 posted on 10/13/2007 10:50:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Sacajaweau

“”Maybe we have to connect KE to Rale??””

*airborne viruses* or *birds of a feather*?

Vultures hang in groups - eagles fly solo;)

Virgie is an eagle!!!!!


17,357 posted on 10/13/2007 11:05:40 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I don’t know how to post pictures (blush). But you have to see this gallery of Brikhead & butthead sitting in trees!

http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=vultures&mkt=en-us


17,358 posted on 10/13/2007 11:08:17 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: Dante3
Either he is incredibly incompetent or he was bribed.

I wish I had kept records and files like some of the members here, because I remember reading that Dr. Perper thanked Khristine Eroshevich for helping him reach his decision. She definitely had a personal interest in how this autopsy was ruled, and Perper should be investigated for seeking advice from someone with a conflict of interest,IMO. I think several people need to be investigated regarding their decisions and actions during these two mysterious deaths.

17,359 posted on 10/13/2007 11:19:34 AM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: PeskyOne
I remember that, too. I also remember that Perper said if something comes out of Danny's inquest, he could change his opinion. I'm sure Wecht remembers him saying that.

Cause of death is sometimes ambiguous because some things are unknown. Perper did his job...and if he was duped by KE, he's got a fall guy...insufficient information.

Wonder what KE forgot to tell him? Wonder WHEN she made her plane reservations to "GET OUT OF TOWN" because it was supposedly a last minute "necessity" to get to Ca? If she left the evening BEFORE Anna died, all she did was sleep and call in the morning....when Anna was okay. Baloney...Bet she was instructing Howard on "HOW TO". dON'T FORGET TO CONSIDER THE 3 HOUR TIME DIFFERENCE.

17,360 posted on 10/13/2007 11:34:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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