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Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys
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You can spot someone who has been on it after a while, the complexion is horrible, the teeth start to rot... weight slides off...
and violence -- what it does to the brain, people lose all conscience.. this is about the worst thing that has happend in this country, it is destroying too many lives... as bad or worse than crack.
So far the only money she has is money Larry has deposited into a trust for her. He could have as easily put the money into his own account if he planned to steal from her. Don’t forget, he was fighting for her when ANS was alive and he wouldn’t have gotten a cent to help raise her, so I’m pretty confident this isn’t about the money for Larry. That said, I also don’t blame him for making as much as he can off these tabloids while he can... soon they will no longer be the flavor of the day and can go off into the sunset and live quietly and well.
Oh, okay.
Oh well, he obviously calculated who would be most helpful to him, Stern or grandma.
And chose the former.
No contest really.
ANNA NICOLE'S SISTER DISHES
By CINDY ADAMS
April 11, 2007 -- ANNA Nicole's sister Donna Hogan - same white-blond hair, industrial- strength eye and lip makeup, ample bosom, low-cut top, but drinking only Sprite - said: "It p - - - - - me off when people say I'm making money off her. I was offered fortunes to tell on her. I was there when she did liposuction in the '90s. I have pictures of her lipo. Even though I needed money bad, I never sold her out."
So, OK, so Donna, hon, so then why "Train Wreck," your new book about and against Anna?
"Because I was hurt. Because it's closure for me. Because now she's gone, and things about her upsetted me. She was selfish. I always respected her, and she always disrespected me. I was struggling. I had to live in a shelter to protect my three kids and I never asked her for nothing. She had four houses and never offered me one to stay in. I bought her a Marilyn Monroe doll and she never bought me a thing. She'd take people who worked for her on shopping sprees to Rodeo Drive and never bring my kids anything.
"She never once offered me money. Except to try and take my little girl from me. See, even after she had Danny she wanted a girl child desperately. She offered me thousands, but only if I'd give up my baby daughter to her which, of course, I wouldn't."
About their similarities: "Well, yeah, I've done drugs . . . we've both had a wild crazy life . . . both had affairs with women . . . three-way sex . . . kids without husbands . . . and I'm now kind of living with someone . . . And, like her, I worked gentlemen's clubs. I waitressed. There's perverts who just want you to get drunk with them. So I'd sit and drink. You could make $2,000 a night.
"Look, I was offered lots of the same kind of stuff she was, but I just couldn't do it. I think she had some kind of illness. She did it with all sorts of girlfriends and gay boyfriends. I mean, she gave our father - who molested girls and actually touched me - naked photos of herself. This is a man who got married the day after we buried Vickie.
"And she never liked her given name Vickie. In school she'd call herself Nicky, so maybe that's where Nicole came in."
Donna Hogan lives in Houston. Her gift baskets business is called Country Delights. Monday was her first moment ever in New York. After dinner she saw Times Square. While asking could she squeeze in a musical like "Mama Mia!" or "The Color Purple" between the 17 shows she's doing to hustle her book, I was asking her opinion of Howard K. Stern.
"I never believed he was the father of Dannielynn. He couldn't create a child even if he had two [she used a colorful word to describe male equipment.] He's not man enough. Anna Nicole Smith led him around by the nose. And can you believe his sister now has a publicist? And wants to be a Dr. Ruth-type TV sex therapist?"
And Donna's opinion of mother-dearest Virgie?
"Virgie had more media than family at the funeral. Listen, Virgie used to abuse Vickie. Treat her bad. Hit her. When they started Virgie went with her to the strip clubs.
"I never took money from anybody. All the media companies followed me and harassed me and offered big money for my story. I never took a dime. Now, for the funeral and lawyers and traveling around, Virgie has a photo company paying. Howard's bills are being paid by a TV show. Larry Birkhead probably has some deal, too."
About larger-than-life Anna Nicole Smith, this sister says: "She actually had nothing. She was always broke. She lost her ranch. She was always getting sued. She went bankrupt. She lost everything. Her life really turned into a train wreck after Howard Marshall. She got depressed. She fought to keep her name alive. She'd suddenly do anything to stay in the spotlight, then the more she got in the spotlight the more she had to do to stay there. And when Stern came into her life she really changed. Everything went downhill.
"Y'know, because of our same father and different mothers, there's others of us. Like another sister Amy, who's into modeling and nobody really knows where she is because nobody wants anything to do with her."
A bite into the Waverly Inn's soft roll, a sigh about "I really have to lose weight," and then . . . "I guess the dysfunctionality in our family goes way back."
And: "I just never want Howard or Virgie to end up with that baby."
Put it down to another of your usual humdrum ho-hum evenings of nice pleasant boring dinner-table talk. Only in New York, kids, only in New York
“What interview were you watching? I didn’t see her asking for custody or guardianship.”
No. She didn’t say those particular words, but what do you call it when someone says she wants to see how the child’s money is spent? It’s not called visitation.
Good luck tomorrow and you'll need some type of nourishment to keep your strength up. I got along fine, and the most discomfort I had was having to have a bone graft, and that wasn't too bad. The hardest part was parting with all that money, and I don't have dental insurance!
Please don’t think I’m attacking you for this, but I believe that statements like this, ‘she was beautiful on the outside, but had no substance inside.” are the type of statements that will be the most hurtful to Dannielynn in the future.
I prefer to think of Anna/Vickie as someone who had a great deal of substance AND LOVE on the inside. However, she was, for many reasons, a tortured soul, who naively trusted the people around her, and those people used her and got rid of her!!
Again, I am in no way trying to be rude to you, and I understand that you do not like or trust Virgie, but do you or did you dislike Anna? If so, did you always dislike her, or did you start to dislike her towards the end of her life, for instance, when she was pregnant with DL and abusing drugs?
I’m just curious, not trying to start an argument at all. Because I was very disgusted when I heard she was pregnant and it became apparent that she was using drugs WHILE pregnant! I remember watching the video on her website, in which she announced she was pregnant, and she was floating in the pool on a raft. To me, she seemed a little messed up in that video and it bothered me. Now, it seems like that video could have been filmed at Horizon’s, but I don’t remember the exact date.
Hahahahahahaha! Love it! Thank you.
That’s why Howie *said* ANS wouldn’t come back to TX! The only state that used to let Toonces drive - and Anna, too!
Well, I’ve certainly never been accused of being NOT NOSEY! LOL!
I think someone said it was at Ben Thompson’s place in Marathon or somewhere in the FL Keys.
Your remark was directed at AC but I feel like I can respond because I’ve said some harsh things about Anna and to be honest the things that have been said on this forum does not compare to things that have been said about her on TV, Radio, and on other forums. Sorry but I will not censor my opinion of her mother because of the off chance that she may be in twenty years looking at old archived webpages. Well if she is looking at Freerepublic maybe that means she turned out as a good conservative. If so then she’ll be able to handle the truth.
I remember how shocked people were when she married Howard marshall and how she wore the wedding gown and leaned on Daniel at his funeral...
then the court trial in Texas...
I was stunned to see how dependent she was on her son... and thinking at the time, he was just a child but he was obviously the adult in their relationship and no child should have to grow up that quickly.... not to be rude back --- but where the heck was Virgie then? It was on TV every single evening and it was so obvious she was not able of caring for herself, she could barely walk, why didn't someone step in then and try to get custody of Daniel? to get him to a more settled environment and home?
ANS quit school in 8th grade. I suspect she was sexually abused as a child and if true it explains how she acted out all her life. She needed extreme counceling at a very young age. I also get the feeling that she was dyslexic and had a learning disability... that, too, had a lifetime affect if not addressed at a young age.
IMO someday a book will be written -- not like the book by Donna Hogan, but by a real, investigative, journalist and I think it will be a bombshell and won't equate any one person particularly well...
But Howard also knew that no matter how many times he kicked them or abused them, they COULD NEVER TALK, and I’m sure if one or more of the dogs died, it would be ruled ‘an accidental death’!
talk about six degrees of separation !
I wonder who will show up to testify? I know Virgie will be there
I just don’t get it personally, bc like you said it makes your teeth rot out and you AGE years in a matter of months. To me, the mere mention of it is scary, so I cannot see how any normal person would say ‘ok, what the hell, I’ll try it”!! How are these people being exposed to it? And more importantly, WHY are they allowing themselves to be exposed to it, much less DO IT???
You do remember that Virgie is the one that took her to rehab. Still after Stern came in maybe she felt that Anna was too insulated and she couldn’t get to her. It was kind of obvious that Anna was drugged up on ANS. I wonder if any of the viewers in between laughing at the trainwreck called her life ever picked up the phone to call California Social Services.
You are right, but different things happen in people’s lives. If Larry does decide to live in LA, and he had access to DL’s money, he might (with the best intentions) invest her money in some project that doesn’t pan out. I’m not trying to say that Larry doesn’t have DL’s best interest at heart, bc I believe he does, but I also believe there is nothing wrong with having some other party be in agreement with whatever investment is made. I say this because, I would have no problem being a co-executor along with a member of my husband’s family if that were necessary. I have no objection to that at all, bc I have no intention of ever touching their money and would not want any other party to do so, unless it was agreed upon by both parties.
LOL!! Well, I cannot dispute that! You are absolutely right!!
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