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Dell Removes Junk from New PCs
BetaNews ^ | June 22, 2007 | BetaNews Staff

Posted on 06/22/2007 7:43:02 PM PDT by CedarDave

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To: Babu
I got to try out a friend's new notebook with Vista, and all those pretty graphics make it run slow as hell.

If your friend is on dial up and using IE/7 then yea it's gonna be a major pain. I experienced such issues on the XP IE/7 and went back to IE/6 to correct it.

21 posted on 06/23/2007 1:50:15 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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To: cva66snipe
If your friend is on dial up and using IE/7 then yea it's gonna be a major pain. I experienced such issues on the XP IE/7 and went back to IE/6 to correct it.

Dial-up? I didn't know anyone used that crap. Kindly give me a little more credit for brains than that -- When I tested his Visduh notebook, he was at my home using my broadband cable connection, so the speed of the connection was a daily known factor to me.

I don't recall if he was using IE7 or IE6.

The other thing I noticed was that even when not on the Internet was that it was very slow to boot up and move about within Vista (and he has a reasonably fast Intel processor), so I attribute that to bloat within Visduh ...

22 posted on 06/23/2007 2:01:36 PM PDT by Babu
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To: Doohickey
Only dumb people use _any_ software prior to the first major bug fix (SP1 in MS parlance).

Also avoid any rev A hardware (if you ever smarten up.)

23 posted on 06/23/2007 2:05:21 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Babu
Dial-up? I didn't know anyone used that crap.

Well yea actually some do when the cable company stops about a half a mile away and the TELCO Central Office is 10 miles away. Which leaves us what? Hughesnet and all it's bugs? Or dial up. I'm lucky the TELCO Slick Cabinet is right up the road and I get a 49.2 connect speed though. Even with that IE/7 would not work well enough to be usable. I shut down as much of it as I could before uninstalling it.

From what you've said in this post though it does sound like a VISTA issue. Too much stuff 99% of the users never will use anyway. IMO it makes more sense to build a basic system all can use and make the bells and whistles package add ons. For my needs XP Home meets them.

24 posted on 06/23/2007 2:18:10 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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To: CedarDave

I build my own PC’s
I get what I want (or can afford)the OS I choose and any software I need or want........I can upgrade any time.I just feel that it works best for me and I like building them


25 posted on 06/23/2007 2:23:01 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: Doohickey
Yes, dumb people and people afraid of anything new can buy a brand new computer with a six year old OS.

Save the smug. Where I live in corporate IT, an OS has to play nice with the basics before it can be deployed companywide. As it sits Vista will not run our centrally managed antivirus software. Would you deploy without that?

Vista's filecopy routine is also messed up. Just ~try~ to copy a 100MB file to or from a server. It doesn't happen.

I'm not a MS hater. We run a mainly MS shop. Its all served us well over the years. I'm a big fan of XP Pro. Its a just plain good solid OS. But Vista isn't ready yet. Someday it'll be fine but not yet.

26 posted on 06/23/2007 2:54:52 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Doohickey

Actually, I think you mean smart people (at least people almost smart enough to demand Win 2000), and people who don’t automatically eat whatever junk food chef Bill dishes up.


27 posted on 06/23/2007 2:55:21 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: cva66snipe

Did he SAY he was browsing? He might be one of the four or five percent of users who use their computers for actual tasks.


28 posted on 06/23/2007 2:58:19 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: cva66snipe

Do you have line of sight to any houses within the cable service area (particularly if you know the residents)?

If you do you can home brew two directional antennas (18 inch sat dishes work well), a wireless router and a wireless card into a broadband connection (you could pay for your neighbors connection and piggyback).


29 posted on 06/23/2007 3:03:37 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Boundless

Hey now, what’s wrong with Zonealarm? I’ve been using it for years and the only reason I’m going to stop using it and go with AVG is because it won’t work on 64-bit XP.


30 posted on 06/23/2007 4:44:38 PM PDT by pctech
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To: pctech

> Hey now, what’s wrong with Zonealarm?

Up through 6.x, nothing.

ZASS 7.x is a disaster.

STOP errors galore with a random rotation of
codes I’ve never seen before. Some black
screen reboots too.
Uninstalling doesn’t, really.

Check the ZA forums before installing the free ZA7,
much less the $$ ZASS.


31 posted on 06/23/2007 5:14:10 PM PDT by Boundless (Legacy Media is hazardous to your mental health)
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To: Gone_Postal

Fun ain’t it? Been doing it for years !!!


32 posted on 06/23/2007 5:18:47 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Obie Wan

yes it is I have never bought a store one, (PC that is) except for the mac

I’m about to upgrade again


33 posted on 06/23/2007 5:24:49 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: Gone_Postal

Tell me,what exactly is the difference between pc2-5300 ddr2-667, and pc2-5400 ddr2-667 ? Is it speed or what ???


34 posted on 06/23/2007 5:32:57 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Dinsdale
Do you have line of sight to any houses within the cable service area (particularly if you know the residents)? If you do you can home brew two directional antennas (18 inch sat dishes work well), a wireless router and a wireless card into a broadband connection (you could pay for your neighbors connection and piggyback).

I wish I did. A ridge sits between me and the nearest house with cable. It's on the same side of the ridge as me but I'm back in a hollow causing the blockage and the last person with cable is family. There's a wireless company to the south of me but I'm on the north slope of the ridge. First tower goes up anywhere Northeast to south west of me and I'm in business as I'm pretty high up the ridge to hit it.

I've called COMCAST plenty of times and even told them everyone on our road {6 houses on less than a quarter mile dead end road} would sign up. Even for TV we first had to but the big dish systems till the smaller ones were developed. My best hope at this point is for AT&T who just bought Bellsouth to upgrade at least to their SLICK System with fiber optics then I might get DSL as I'm on a half a mile from the SLICK. A SLICK is TELCO's system which is in effect a small central office in a cabinet. It allows via digital for many lines in a given area to be used on several feeding it but still can not without fiber optics feed handle DSL.

35 posted on 06/23/2007 5:38:05 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wouldn’t know. My stuff doesn’t blue screen.


36 posted on 06/23/2007 5:58:35 PM PDT by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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To: Clara Lou

Your reading comprehension can sure stand some improvement.


37 posted on 06/23/2007 5:59:36 PM PDT by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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To: CedarDave

Try Foxit reader. www.foxitsoftware.com. Fast, free and only about a 2.5MB download.


38 posted on 06/23/2007 6:01:10 PM PDT by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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To: CedarDave

Why does Adobe still exist?


39 posted on 06/23/2007 6:01:12 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: cva66snipe

Hm. My experience has been far different from yours...oh wait. You are speaking from experience? I’d had to think you’re making crap up.


40 posted on 06/23/2007 6:03:51 PM PDT by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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