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Dell Removes Junk from New PCs
BetaNews ^ | June 22, 2007 | BetaNews Staff

Posted on 06/22/2007 7:43:02 PM PDT by CedarDave

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To: Doohickey

I’ve been hearing horror stories about installed programs that are not compatible with VISTA.

What about it do you like?

Our institution is moving to it over the summer and everybody is scared.


41 posted on 06/23/2007 6:07:51 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Still Thinking
Did he SAY he was browsing? He might be one of the four or five percent of users who use their computers for actual tasks.

What was my first word in my reply? {IF} If Not then it was a VISTA issue and not the IE version. There were several threads in here on that issue. Microsoft offered IE/7 and on dial up it caused very slow loads among other things due to added features. Others with high speed service would likely never notice it.

42 posted on 06/23/2007 6:12:37 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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To: Doohickey

LOL—you’re blowing smoke, rude boy.


43 posted on 06/23/2007 6:19:54 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Run, Fred, run!)
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To: Doohickey
On the one machine I bought the M.E. upgrade for there was a real major issue. It could not do maintenance. Even in Safe Mode with very limited operations something in the OS was causing it to write to the HD which rendered attempts to such trivial matters as defrag and Disk Scan impossible. The blue screens and freezes were worse than W/98/SE so I took it out. Now XP is a different matter. Many years of service and no complaints which is why I bought my new one with it.

It's kinda like a vehicle. If Chevy made an exact copy of a 78 Chevy K-5 Blazer to sell new I would buy it over any 4X4 on the new market out there today. It was their best and would out preform the newer models, was reliable, durable, plus easier to maintain. Just because something is new does not make it better than what it replaced.

44 posted on 06/23/2007 6:23:25 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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To: eleni121
What about it do you like?

Here's what I like:
1. Search. Right there on the Start menu, just type in in what you're looking for whether it's a program, document, e-mail or whatever.
2. Bitlocker drive encryption.
3. Windows Sidebar.
4. Meeting Space. Makes it easy to collaborate ad-hoc with friends or customers.
5. Media Center.

I also think it's cool that my wife can fly (she's Air Force Reserve) and she doesn't need to be Administrator of her machine now to run any of her programs or connect to a wireless network, unlike Windows XP. I can't speak to the application compatibility experience. There are titles that don't work, but fortunately I don't own any of them. All of mine and my daughter's games work, Quicken, Office 2003, Streets and Trips, Magellan MapSend, Create-a-Card, Student 2006, iTunes, etc.

If you're thinking of switching, I would recommend that you test the programs you need. There are programs that won't work becuase they require the user to be Administrator or they try to do things that the shouldn't. There are workarounds for most issues.

45 posted on 06/23/2007 6:29:41 PM PDT by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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To: cva66snipe

So your’re judging Vista based on your ME experience? Okay, well you have yourself a nice evening.


46 posted on 06/23/2007 6:31:12 PM PDT by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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To: CedarDave

computers are a lot like air conditioners, they stop working properly once you open windows.


47 posted on 06/23/2007 6:31:37 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: Doohickey

From what you post I think we made the right decision. VISTA it is.

Although there are others who swear by the Linux free stuff.


48 posted on 06/23/2007 6:33:15 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Obie Wan

Those numbers are values based off the true speed of the ram, and different manufacturers round that number up/down to the nearest 100 for marketing. That is all...and they will all be 667MHz RAM.
667 * 8 ~ 5336...~5300...~5400


49 posted on 06/23/2007 6:33:58 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: Gone_Postal

So I’m thinking your saying they are interchangeable ???


50 posted on 06/23/2007 6:35:44 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Obie Wan
should be
I always check the MB manual for whats called for
51 posted on 06/23/2007 6:38:31 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: Gone_Postal

Thanks for the assist !!!


52 posted on 06/23/2007 6:39:07 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Obie Wan

NP glad I could help


53 posted on 06/23/2007 6:40:47 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: Doohickey
So your’re judging Vista based on your ME experience? Okay, well you have yourself a nice evening.

No I'm also basing it on reviews I see of VISTA and what I have read about certain RIGHTs and privlidges MS has tried to give itself to MY Computer. The same reasons I don't have Wildblue or Hughesnet in my home as tempting as it is. It has substantial bad reviews from angry customers. Too many bad reviews by customers kills sales and makes sensible persons cautious. If/When it improves I will reconsider. My guess is VISTA will be about a two year push on the market and a so so OS then Microsoft will be forced to do better just as it was with replacing M.E.

54 posted on 06/23/2007 6:44:20 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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To: Doohickey

Agreed on Foxit as an alternate pdf reader. About a tenth of the size of Adobe Reader 8, dosen’t bug you about new versions (got to be almost as bad as RealPlayer.) I’ve got it running on XP; Foxit claims it’ll run on everything from 98 to Vista.
I wonder what “uninstall” program is offered by Dell for previous customers. Some of those can be nasty if you’re not careful.


55 posted on 06/23/2007 6:48:16 PM PDT by richlk
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To: cva66snipe
Which leaves us what? Hughesnet and all it's bugs?

For what it's worth, I have been using Hughes for two years now and it has been flawless. It is expensive at $60 per month, but beats the hell out of dialup.

56 posted on 06/23/2007 7:06:11 PM PDT by KevinB
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To: Boundless
ZASS 7.x is a disaster.

My experience is the same.

57 posted on 06/23/2007 7:08:33 PM PDT by KevinB
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To: Boundless

I know Zonealarm 7 was a bit trickier to set up but I didn’t know it was that bad, I haven’t had any problems with it. However I am gravitating away from it to AVG anyway.


58 posted on 06/23/2007 7:23:54 PM PDT by pctech
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To: Boundless
I'm not having any problems with it now, since the .337 fix. Yes, the original release was awful, but the patch fixed most things up for me.

It is still slow to boot, though, and I don't know when another patch will come out. They've been busy with their Vista version lately.

By the way, version 7 is when they switched to the Kaspersky anti-virus engine.

Also note that this pertains to the Internet Suite with anti-virus and anti-spyware. The basic firewall version does not apply.

-PJ

59 posted on 06/23/2007 7:30:23 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: KevinB
For what it's worth, I have been using Hughes for two years now and it has been flawless. It is expensive at $60 per month, but beats the hell out of dialup.

Thanks for the info. I've got a cousin who liked to have never got it working right but that was about 4 years ago. First few months she was real unhappy with it. Upload was as slow as dial up. I like Direct TV and use it so I would go with Hughes before Wildblue. Have you had to deal with Hughes Tech support. Again I'm shopping around and looking for input. Wildblue by many differing customers in various forums does not answer their phones after a sale is made.

I know enough about it to know proper installation is important. I can hit the three birds for TV so I should be able to hit it for that as well. I did my own upkeep & repairs on my old C-band big Dish and installed my Dishnet and later Direct TV when the installers would not show up after the second or third time.

$60 would just be $10 above what I pay now for an extra phone line plus Dial up. Another killer for me on Hughes is initial cost. But I imagine I'd have to watch for a promotion on that.

I reckon I can look into them again and ask a few more persons like my cousin to see if issues were resolved. But she was used to cable speeds. Her other complaint has been e-mail issues. As in getting them. Kinda reminded me of WEB-TV LOL Sometimes a few seconds sometimes a week. Any input you have I'd appreciate as I want off of dial-up even at the speed I have. My dad a half a mile away gets a 19K connect. They didn't run his line through the SLICK. If there was a way to get DSL he'd know as he is a retired Bellsouth Data Circuit Tech.

60 posted on 06/23/2007 7:30:55 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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