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Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (Spoiler Alert!!)
07/11/07 | Dianna

Posted on 07/11/2007 12:44:49 AM PDT by Dianna

Please DO NOT read this thread if you have not seen the movie. Even if you have read this book, topics under discussion can affect what you will expect in the last book.

Several pet theories for the Deathy Hallows have, perhaps, been laid to rest by the release of this movie. A number of plot points I had thought were important to the end of the series were completely left out of Order of the Phoenix.

1. There is absolutely NO reference to the cleaning of Grimmauld Place. Thus, any speculation about the locket horcrux being hoarded by Kreacher must be false.

2. The prophecy was never heard in full. The portion of the prophecy which could have referred to Neville instead of Harry was omitted.

3. There was no mention of Percy's estrangement from his family. Percy was shown at Fudge's side at important points, but unless his face was remembered from previous movies, people not reading the book may not have caught that.

There were two plot changes which puzzled me. Cho was the one who gave Dumbledore's Army away, not the unimportant character of Marietta. Also, Sirius, before he falls through the veil calls Harry, "James". I assume these changes have a point, but I don't know what.

There was also no reference to Hermione and Ron being Prefects. There was no Quidditch at all, so Ron would not be on the team.


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To: Xenalyte
Okay, here’s the big question: in terms of sheer movie goodness, how does this one rank against the previous?

I didn't care much for Goblet of Fire, but I did really enjoy this one. It had the problem of trying to tell too much story in 2 hours and 20-odd minutes. A LOT was skipped over. I don't know how non-book readers follow the story, but my husband seems to do well enough.

There weren't any slow points. Although from time to time I noticed people in the theater opening their cell phones to check the time, I never wondered how much longer it had.

121 posted on 07/11/2007 3:47:58 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: null and void

Yes...you.... guess I better check for ticket availability online for tomorrow morning...the suspense is killing me!!

;D


122 posted on 07/11/2007 3:48:31 PM PDT by schwing_wifey (Lily was mistaken..The Borg are Swedish..Resistance is Futile.....)
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To: schwing_wifey

Thatt’s why I’ve already seen it...

Can’t you make a showing tonight?


123 posted on 07/11/2007 3:50:06 PM PDT by null and void (...and there'd be world peace and fuzzy puppies for everyone. And then we could eat them...)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
Honestly, grown ups going to midnight showings of a kid’s movie. You folks need to get a life. Now if you will excuse, I need to get back to my reading.... of GoF.... for the sixth time... :)

LOL!! Well, we did take our 9 year old son. Can you imagine me, at 3:00am, with all these thoughts tumbling around in my head driving me crazy? I had no one to discuss it with!!

124 posted on 07/11/2007 3:50:08 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna

Thank God for FR...


125 posted on 07/11/2007 3:51:03 PM PDT by null and void (...and there'd be world peace and fuzzy puppies for everyone. And then we could eat them...)
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To: balch3

Too late, my son already knows how to “disapparate”...especially when chores are involved..

As for myself, I’m desperately looking for a wand and spells that make the vacuum cleaner come alive and meals cook themselves...

And a house elf would be nice....


126 posted on 07/11/2007 3:52:58 PM PDT by schwing_wifey (Lily was mistaken..The Borg are Swedish..Resistance is Futile.....)
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To: null and void

You know, I probably could...I’m just afraid it may be a zoo.. but there are certainly enough shows...now what would be the best one to pick??? And I’m in the middle of making dinner right now... thats why I need a wand and some of Mrs. Weasley’s recipes...

;D

9:00 AM 9:30 AM 10:00 AM 10:30 AM 11:00 AM
12:10 PM 12:40 PM 1:10 PM 1:40 PM 2:10 PM
3:20 PM 3:50 PM 4:20 PM 4:50 PM 5:20 PM
6:30 PM 7:00 PM 7:30 PM 8:00 PM 8:30 PM
9:40 PM 10:10 PM 10:40 PM 11:10 PM 11:40 PM


127 posted on 07/11/2007 3:58:29 PM PDT by schwing_wifey (Lily was mistaken..The Borg are Swedish..Resistance is Futile.....)
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To: Cymbaline
What did you think?

I enjoyed it, but was really distracted by what was/was not added to the movie and wondering if such and such a scene would be shown.

With the exception of Harry being so godawfully angry and emotional, this was my favorite book. I was glad that he was toned down. It seems to me that there was so much jumping from one thing to the next to advance the plot, that character development was nothing.

Umbridge was absolutely perfect.

128 posted on 07/11/2007 3:59:41 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: null and void

I see. Thanks. : )


129 posted on 07/11/2007 4:00:14 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Annoy liberals. Buy a Free Republic bumper sticker and stick it on your S.U.V.)
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To: grellis
My, my, I do go on! Was Montague trapped in the cabinet in the movie? Inquiring minds want to know!

Nope!

130 posted on 07/11/2007 4:01:49 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: null and void

What is your view about Prof. Snape?

Do you think he’s good or evil?


131 posted on 07/11/2007 4:02:47 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Annoy liberals. Buy a Free Republic bumper sticker and stick it on your S.U.V.)
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To: CholeraJoe
If there’s no quidditch in “Half-Blood Prince” either (as Dan Radcliffe has said in an interview) how do Harry and Ginny get together?

Well, Ginny seemed obviously miffed about Harry and Cho in this movie, so I guess they'll bring that in somehow in the next movie by Ginny going out with someone to try to make Harry jealous.

132 posted on 07/11/2007 4:03:11 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: retrokitten
But, I don't know about the headmaster at all. I don't think she mentions it in HBP. I'm sure someone will be along to correct me if she did!

Igor Karkoroff is found dead in the beginning of HBP. It is revealed during a discussion at the Weasley's during Harry's birthday celebration.

133 posted on 07/11/2007 4:04:24 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: schwing_wifey

I’d go for the first one after dinner. The dishes can wait...


134 posted on 07/11/2007 4:04:25 PM PDT by null and void (...and there'd be world peace and fuzzy puppies for everyone. And then we could eat them...)
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To: Dianna

We know that Elvis bonked each of his female co-stars in his 33 (or so) cinematic delights. Does Harry?


135 posted on 07/11/2007 4:04:39 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Xenalyte
Does Sirius specifically call Harry “James”, or is he calling to Harry’s father?

He called out to Harry, "Good one, James", after Harry performed a spell against one of the Death Eaters. Harry gave him a strange look when he did so.

136 posted on 07/11/2007 4:04:58 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: EmilyGeiger

Oh I’m not going. We went to that theater for GoF and with all the servers walking around it’s really distracting. When I went to pick up my tickets for GoF I saw them from a distance. They were a lot taller then I thought they would be (for some reason in my mind all movie people are around 5’7” LOL) and their hair was a much darke red then in the films. I think it’s really neat that they are coming here again though. We’re just a little town outside of Chicago, so it’s pretty cool they they choose to come back here instead of one of the bigger theaters downtown.


137 posted on 07/11/2007 4:05:07 PM PDT by retrokitten (I love caffeine)
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To: dragonblustar

I tried to find the old thread.


138 posted on 07/11/2007 4:06:12 PM PDT by null and void (...and there'd be world peace and fuzzy puppies for everyone. And then we could eat them...)
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To: js1138
The “W” at the end of the current movie is not a reference to Bush. It is an invention of the director, and I suspect he doesn’t know what it implies in the U.S.

Fred and George put the W in the sky right after the fireworks. Wasn't there a single W as the logo on the skiving snackboxes?? It was for Weasley, I assumed.

139 posted on 07/11/2007 4:07:10 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: WV Mountain Mama

The midnight showing our teenagers and I went to was mostly teens and young adults, with a few, ahem, middle aged folks like me, mixed in. The theater had already sold out the one theater they were were showing it in, so they opened a second one. We were running a bit late, and only got there 10 minutes before showtime, so we were in the second one, which was good, because it wasn’t crowded. There was about a 15 minute delay getting the movie started, though, because I guess they had to scare up a second projectionist, or whoever runs the booth.


140 posted on 07/11/2007 4:09:07 PM PDT by SuziQ
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