Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (Spoiler Alert!!)

07/11/07 | Dianna

[Dianna]

Please DO NOT read this thread if you have not seen the movie. Even if you have read this book, topics under discussion can affect what you will expect in the last book.

Several pet theories for the Deathy Hallows have, perhaps, been laid to rest by the release of this movie. A number of plot points I had thought were important to the end of the series were completely left out of Order of the Phoenix.

1. There is absolutely NO reference to the cleaning of Grimmauld Place. Thus, any speculation about the locket horcrux being hoarded by Kreacher must be false.

2. The prophecy was never heard in full. The portion of the prophecy which could have referred to Neville instead of Harry was omitted.

3. There was no mention of Percy's estrangement from his family. Percy was shown at Fudge's side at important points, but unless his face was remembered from previous movies, people not reading the book may not have caught that.

There were two plot changes which puzzled me. Cho was the one who gave Dumbledore's Army away, not the unimportant character of Marietta. Also, Sirius, before he falls through the veil calls Harry, "James". I assume these changes have a point, but I don't know what.

There was also no reference to Hermione and Ron being Prefects. There was no Quidditch at all, so Ron would not be on the team.

[mware]

They are talking about over half a dozen of the characters dying.

Hopefully most of them will be the bad guys.

[CholeraJoe]

All I get is local channels and they only talked about police shootings and high property taxes.

[EmilyGeiger]

Two more days! It is important to fight, and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated." Albus Dumbledore

[CholeraJoe]

“Minister, I know you don’t like Dumbledore, but you’ve got to admit he’s got style.” Kingsley Shacklebolt.

[retrokitten]

Thanks for the heads up on the review!

Go figure, the old grey hag has to spoil it for everyone.

Mugglenet had on interview JKR did on a British talk show and she said, “It’s a bloodbath! {pause} Well, not a ‘bloodbath’, but a lot of people die.”

[mware]

Just guessing but I would think most of those dying are on Voltamorte side.

I wonder if Malfoys dad is going to die. In the last book didn't he get locked away in prison???

[retrokitten]

I'm still trying to avoid the news. Isn't there war going on and a congress going crazy or bad weather they should be reporting on??

"And now, Harry, let us step out into the night and pursue that flighty temptress, adventure."

[mware]

It is important to fight, and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated." Albus Dumbledore<

I keep seeing the WOT in this series. I don't know if she intended it, but it sure seems like it to me.

[retrokitten]

I do, too. But she’s allegedly a lib.

IMO, it’s because we know that the people who attacked us on 9/11 and still want to blast us -and the rest of the western world- back to the stone age are evil. The left (for whatever reason) just doesn’t see it that way.

It’s like we’re all the DA and their all the inquisitorial brigade. ;-)

[CholeraJoe]

Actually it was at the end of Book 5. In the opening of Book 6, Harry really slams Draco’s mother about her “Loser of a husband locked up in Azkaban.” Just a little bit of wizarding schadenfreude.

[mware]

That is right he was part of the group who appeared at the end battle of Order of the Phoenix. That is why got him locked away in Azkaban.

[grellis]

For what it's worth, I think that Snape is good, and that he will sacrifice himself to save Harry.

Exactly what I have been thinking, and it brings up an interesting question: If Lily Potter's sacrificing her life to save Harry gave him protection, would the same be true if Snape did likewise? I don't think Dumbledore's death did any good for Harry, but maybe for Draco...

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[null and void]

We are also making a direct appeal to the Harry Potter fans who bought their books from DeepDiscount.com and may receive copies early requesting that they keep the packages hidden until midnight on July 21st.

Yeah, right. I wouldn't read an advance copy, would you????

Like heck I wouldn't!!!!

[grellis]

JK Rowling's lawyer confirms that genuine material from the final Harry Potter book has been posted online

CRAP

Well, folks, from this comment I am posting until I am done reading the book, I am keeping strictly to real estate websites, Tigers baseball telecasts, and VeggieTales cds in the car. I look forward to talking to you all at the end of the last chapter.

Have a good one, folks! Don't go doing anything which requires bail money!

[retrokitten]

Don't go doing anything which requires bail money!

Yeah, but if we are in the joint until Friday midnight we'd have a pretty good chance of avoiding any spoilers.

see new tagline ;-)

[null and void]

I read was that JKR kills off two characters and I’m betting its Voldemort and Snape....

JKR has systematically killed off every parental figure in Harrt's life. Based on that I'd go with Hagrid and McGonagle.

I don't think Voldmort will be killed. Vanquished certainly, but not quite killed.

[andyssister]

From mugglenet:

UPDATE: In response, JK Rowling has spoken out about this New York Times review: "I am staggered that American newspapers have decided to publish purported spoilers in the form of reviews in complete disregard of the wishes of literally millions of readers, particularly children, who wanted to reach Harry’s final destination by themselves, in their own time. I am incredibly grateful to all those newspapers, booksellers and others who have chosen not to attempt to spoil Harry’s last adventure for fans."

Here's hoping Jo sues the NYT out of existence.

[null and void]

Here's hoping Jo sues the NYT out of existence.

AMEN! (Actually she could just buy it out and turn it into a real newspaper!)

[retrokitten]

(Actually she could just buy it out and turn it into a real newspaper!)

LMAO! Great idea!