[TruthShallSetYouFree]

We tend to be more critical of athletes, like Ralph Beard, who conspire to lose,

I don't know the full story of Ralph Beard, but most of those guilty of point-shaving admitted to keeping the scores down, not to throwing games completely. (I know this might be a distinction without a difference to some.) That is, if his team was favored by ten points and Beard made sure they won by less than that, he would be a point-shaver, but he did not conspire to make his team lose.

[lonestar]

Having seen more on the local Houston TV coverage, I think Roger is innocent. He is angry like innocent people react when they have had lies told about them.

I HOPE he is innocent because , like he said, all his career he has "worked his butt off" to stay in shape.

On local TV replay of the phone call, I thought Roger did say, "Just tell the truth."

Who knows!?

[uncbob]

Ralph Beard's transgressions cost his own team victory.

He shave points and caused some gamblers to lose $$$ -- Not his team to lose games

[mom.mom]

According to Werner Wolf, the B12 shot and lidicane? (sp) that Clemens says McNamee gave him would have been more likely to have been administered by a team physician, not a trainer.

[uncbob]

Didn’t like Clemen’s and this just reaffirms my feelings

He has one section of his house set up like a museum to his career and has the gall to get on TV and say “I don’t give a rat’s ass about the HOF —Yeah sure Rog

He has made how many gazillions over the last 6-7 years yet he wants some peon to risk perjury and jail time for him

Man up Rog you won’t have to give any of the salary back

[FreePaul]

Roger Clemens dilemma seems to be that of an innocent man publicly accused. Nothing he says or does will satisfy the self appointed guardians of behavior. He either didn't deny soon enough or too soon. He didn't defend himself vigorously enough or was too strong in his own defense. He didn't say the right thing to his accuser. Whatever he does some will say that he should have ________(fill in the blank).

As we have seen, some recent offenders have said "yes I did it" and received accolades for coming clean. It certainly seems to be an inexcusable offense to deny something that "the media" has taken on as fact.

[dfwgator]

Wasn’t Clemens contacted while the Mitchell Report was still being compiled, and didn’t he have a chance then to refute the charges in the Mitchell Report?

[moonman]

Was Roger ever tested positive for illegal drugs? If yes, he's guilty. If no, then believe him, regardless of what the trainer says. Clemens cannot be found quilty of something where there is absolutely no physical evidence linking him to a crime.

If this is the case, well hell, ever wonder how Hillary got that big second wind campaigning in N.H. and carried through to win? Yep, it was me. I gave her a gulp of my private illegal hooch stock.

[shortstop]

Think about this for a minute: You need vitamin b-12. Let's see, shall I take it in pill form? How about a liquid b-12? Nope I think I'll go for a big honkin' shot in the butt administered by an athletic trainer who is only qualified to manipulate muscles and tendons. That'll work.

Now does anyone still believe him?

[tflabo]

BFD with all this Roger Clemens nonsense...the media has MUCH bigger issues to deal with instead...

Like Britney Spears.... ehehehehehehehe....

[Eric Blair 2084]

If a professional athlete wants to take steroids or HGH it none of the Government’s business.

If a professional sports league wants to ban these substances or even coffee, vitamins and aspirin, that is their business and not the government’s.

[DOGEY]

I don’t know if Clemens used Steroids and neither does this BoZo. This smells of Duke Rape case journalism. Surely the witness there wasn’t lying. Right.

If Clemens lies under oath, he should go to jail(if proved). If he didn’t take Steroids, why can’t he defend himslf?

[Rte66]

I’m going to have to look up more about Frank Beard and his part in the scandals. While the actual transgressions happened before I was born, I remember when the scandal broke - though I was a tiny tyke.

There was a cover of LOOK or Life magazine with an electric shaver mowing down big red “whiskers.” My hometown in OK was intimately involved with Beard’s b-ball activities, because our locals were the other half of that winning Olympic team and a friend’s dad was the coach.

They were all heroes to us and I don’t remember the taint associated with Beard or any other of the KY players, if there were others involved. Thanks for the article.

I’m still undecided about Clemens - as I’ve posted before, I *want* to believe him, but down deep in my heart, I don’t yet do so “beyond a reasonable doubt” (yeah, I know, I don’t have to - in his civil suit, it just takes a preponderance of evidence). Unless McNamee has some kind of proof of his allegations - and I’m not sure what it would be - it’s still *he said/he said.*