Well then Mr. Speaker. Beam Me Up!
Posted on 07/02/2008 4:57:05 AM PDT by Renfield
Goodness! I’m a bad speller, too. Though when I care to, I can slow down and use spell check.
Here’s the link to the FR thread on the last AZTEC Conference I was speaking about.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1991665/posts
NOTES RE PRESENTATION ON PHYSICAL (HARD, TANGIBLE) EVIDENCE CASES BY TED PHILIPS of
and of the Center for physical trace research.
He has 3389 very vetted cases of physical trace evidence from 96 countries . . .
where the craft or object landed & was observed influencing [or to have influenced] trees, soil, plants . . .
A subset of those cases involved levitation of objects [possibly people, animals as well]
A subset also invoved small light balls baseball sized to beach ball sized.
Seems to have been a falling off of the classic UFO shape of 20-30’ diameter craft [in terms of raw numbers]
Landing sites result in various effects.
64 yar old farmer walking toward barn . . gray green color—looked like a giant mushroom—cows looking at it. Sun’s up. Sees several green figures moving very rapidly under the craft. He picks up 2 big rocks. After he crawls over the 1st gate. His thought is to try and disable it & keep it on the ground. in 1967
About 15 feet from the edge, he encountered a physical pressure wall that he couldn’t penetrate. He tossed a rock against it and the rock bounced back. He tossed a rock on top of the craft & it skipped as though on water.
Shortly, the figures return into the craft by the central column/support. The central column retracts into the craft and the craft departs.
The soil is TOTALLY dehydrated.
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Johnson family of North central Kansas. Young boy & dog snowball arrived home late & went out to feed his prize sheep. He heard a sound like an out of balance old washing machine.
30-40 feet from him, a 10 foot diameter craft was hovering 5 feet off the ground. A luminous auquious something was coming out fo the center toward the ground but stopping 1 foot from the ground—NOT TOUCHING THE GROUND.
He wanted to run but couldn’t move & dog couldn’t move. All 100% silent . . . as it passed over hog shed, he went totally blind. Sound indicated it was receding into distance & his vision ?slowly? returns.
There was an 8foot diameter ring on the ground surface that was GLOWING BRIGHTLY. [photos taken in the dark with only the light of the ring are plenty bright.]
The soil in the ring was actually cool but with small craters. They noticed that after they touched the ring, their fingers became numb. Nurse wife couldn’t take pulses for 2 weeks.
Could ave read a newspaper from the luminous ring of soil 10 minutes after the craft left.
16 hours later, the sheriff took photo. Ring totally dehydrated down to 14 inches into the soil.
Water would bead up on it. Nov 1972
Dr _________ went out in August following year. His fingers became numb when he touched the ring that many months later. The ring surface was higher than the adjacent ground. [the ring being higher was mentioned in part because a debunker claimed the farmer had had a ring feeder and that the cows had gotten so excited eating that they’d stamped their feet up and down compacting the ring and also that they’d peed plenty etc. all resulting in the ring. Shows the stupid lengths the debunkers will go to—was Phil Klaus—either a government shill or clueless id__t]
Plants grow outside of the rng, not in the ring soil.
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STurgil sp? family . . . a circular whie someting seen lying out in the fild. 185 feet outin the field.
Seen for 2 hours off and on as they walk by a windo. The instant he stats his trator the thing shoots up about 10’ and hovers. then goes up and flies toward farm house & rotating higher is a large cyindical cigar shaped objct . . .
4’ dehydrated soil . . . 2 circular spots/craters . . .
within minute, soil is as thouh micro-waved.
Special Investigation Unit. . . .
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Marley Woods Rancher/Banker 15 Dec 1998
They started watching & seeing. Had some of his security people check me out—194 witnesses to goings on there . . . I’ve been going over there since 1999. 1937 was earliest reported sighting in the same area.
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1998 in Mich a white object about the size of a basketball—impacts the top right passenger side of a car—leaves behind residue on the car.
Philip Buttingger sp? a tp flight chemist . . . said that whatever left the residue had been imersed recently in something like a farm pond.
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See in this photo—the “contrail” [against the forest background on the hill]
—the contrail comes out of a cave in daytime . . . in 1/125th of a second, they see it come out & sits on the ground for about 4 minutes . . . Large bright amber display 15-20 people observing it.
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166 cattle went by a ring. Their path was 18 inches wide yet not one hoof would touch the ring.
The farmer’s truck was pushed—without its wheels turning—pushed some distance into a garage door—could see the ruts from the wheels not turning.
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Horse refused to get closer to the ring. Newborn calf—gates all locked—calf nothing but skeleton remaining. 6 calves—6 scorched rings . . . farmer was asked if there had been any other cattle mutilations. Researcher is shown a huge pile of cow bones . . . never reported because wouldn’t do any good and ridicule.
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Couple in mid 60’s gets up to get water—sees bright lights descending—they drive out and see nothing. Next day around noon, Clyde (6’6”) checks out door on trailer. Wife in car watching—he goes out of site. He’s lying face down on the ground—as she reaches him, she’s impactd on shoulders and she’s put down lying like hubby who said he’s been hit similarly on the shoulders.
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Recreation of facts by 2 atny researchers . . . .clusters of lights . . . suddenly 2 light balls head directly for couple who are standing 10 feet apart . . . ball passes between them. White beachballed sized object about 40’ off the ground. There had been an automatic video setup for night use. This was during day. However, they find the tape had been ejected from the camera and 15 stored tapes nearby were all ruined.
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In 1944, person had escaped from a concentration camp and was fighting Germans in Tatra Mtns. Rescuer take him to cave and removes rocks—hides them for over a week—he performs holy rites & tells them not to go deeper into cave as it’s haunted—he’s an engineer—
so of course, he goes deeper into the cave. . . . traveling 2 miles . . . a level corridor . . . looks across at a large jet black mirror like surface that stalagmits & stalagtites have grown over . . . 2all 7’ thick . . . rolls down 40degree incline. . . finds self in a crescent moon shaped structure.
He chops off a stalgtite and research shows it’s a 6,000 year old deposit. Takes 3 teeth of a lrge prehistoric cave bear—cave bear lies on STRUCTURED GRILL WORK.
He’s owned a lot of mines . . . can hear far below him something akin to a large turbine.
[in essence, the large crescent shaped craft in the large cave had clearly been buried for many thousands of years.]
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Betz family: hollow ball out of titanium. No increase in visitations but 600 after Stephenville. 200-400 sighting reports/ month usual.
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In all the landing cases, objects tend to land on isolated farms in most isolated places.
Some cows don’t think the ET’s are very benign. [Nor do the mutilated humans]
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Greer demanded $600 for a weekend at Greer’s farm for special info sessions. But had to sign a non-disclosure agreement—too much—head of disclosure project demanding a non-disclosure agreement.
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1997 at museum. Went to OK Denny’s 7:00 agent said “The gentleman you are here to meet won’t be here.” said “You know how we work.”
in answer to how the agent had gotten wind of the meeting from the whistle blower, experiencer.
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Their agenda? few guesses . . . see Stanton Friedman’s site . . . Earth water . . . also densest planet in the solar system—heavy metals . . .
Maybe they are trying to quarantine us.
END OF SYMPOSIUM NOTES.
Uhhhhhhhhhh, if I could request something from the rest of the list . . .
it’s a bit annoying to go to all this trouble and have few to no comments. If this is at all of interest to you, PLEASE COMMENT! ASK QUESTIONS!
Cheers.
SOME HIGHLIGHTS from that thread:
MOVIE/VIDEO “OUT OF THE BLUE”
AZ flyover commonly known as PHOENIX LIGHTS though was much larger than Phoenix—from up North—Wickenburg down 17 over Phoenix down to Tucson.
Craft more than 5,000 feet large.
Camelback mountain sized.
Trucker witnessed several fighter jets chasing UFO.
1 UFO was over the base & 1 UFO was out toward Wickenburg.
2 fighters with afterburners from behind viewer toward UFO.
Very large craft over their house—was like wavy light over hot pavement looking up into the center of the craft.
Gunmetal black object against grey background of metro lights lighting night sky.
Reporter went to every official. NO ONE WOULD TALK.
North of Prescott to Tucson was the path.
MIKE FORTSON: NO ONE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT in government . . . afraid of their careers.
He was never satisfied with the flare explanation.
The craft was huge and constant in shape.
Flares can’t do that. Flares fall in irregular speeds with smoke trailing. Flares are not equally spaced apart.
NO WAY IT WAS FLARES except later when the Air Force trotted out a flare drop as disinformation, distraction.
LT BETHUNE . . . 300’ diameter craft [don’t recall where] . . . goes to CNO & to Committee. . . [congress, I think]
Even Einstein allows for warping of time/space continuum to allow shortcut travel
MIKE FORTSON—REALTOR in Phoenix . . . he saw big craft about 20:00 with his wife. 911 and others calculate there were AT LEAST 10,000 WITNESSES.
HUBBLE TELESCOPE SAME TIME WAS LOOKING . . . [MISSED what it saw]
Was a satellite looking outward for UFO CRAFT [Mike knows the CEO of the company manufacturing it] at the same time as the ‘PHX LIGHTS’ . . .
CHECK JULY 1997 SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN . . . shows a Gamma Ray Burst 13 March 450,000 light years away . . . with a bright spot of light . . . in the center of the bright spot of light . . . is an elongated object.
At the same time . . . because of AZ flyover . . . [Dilldo Klintoon] is at Greg Norman’s house—press put out report that he fell and broke his knee and had to have it operated on. False story. Knee never showed scars of such surgery. He was whisked away to bunker because we went to DEFCON3 due to the flyovers.
Craft was UNDER 3,000 feet.
Check FrankWarren blogspot.
Duration 17:30-02:00 Phoenix
There were 16 witnesses pulled over on the Flagstaff to Phx highway at CROWN KING POINT who saw mile logcraft.
There were actually 3 super large craft. At one point, they pancaked on top of one another, formed a big ball of light and disappeared in a flash of light.
[I think I’m tired. Going to call it a night shortly.
More probably Tuesday, if not before.
Blessings, ]
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MIKE FORTSON again on the AZ flyover/Phx lights:
The craft was so big and so low, we could not see the edges of it.
At another point in time when I could see the edges, I held my hands out one on opposite edges and my hands were 30 inches apart.
Pilot viewing the craft’s lights as it flew overhead thought that the lights resembled “can” lights—with orangish, amber light.
Another craft seen . . . a large orb—appeared as if it was crafted out of light—perfectly round.
When large triangle craft was directly overhead—dead-center of the lights—there was no filament in the light—it was like swimming light—balls of light—gaseous globes.
Large craft blocked out the stars.
Looking up at underside of craft—like looking through water—wavy image—no buzz; no hum; no sound at all. Effortlessly glided over . . . 5-9 lights on at any given time.
Witness Kitei: I think they went out of their way to let us know that they’re here. Objects were clearly intending to be seen.
PhD Schwartz: There were over 10,000 witnesses—a complete cross-section of the population.
Air-traffic controllers saw the craft directly but not on radar.
Richard Powell PhD—the craft profoundly affected witnesses.
Joan Mortensen RN sp? Not frightened but curious.
This was a planned “elegant” production.
Officials later claimed 911 only got a few calls. When actually—as 911 workers later testified—there were thousands of calls jamming the lines.
Michael Tanner—[not sure which comment was his]
Francis Barwood Council woman of Phoenix: Mayor’s office said “We don’t have UFO’s over Phoenix.”
Francis Barwood asked in council meeting what was going on etc. “Everyone looked at me.” Another council member made a joke. An assistant manager came up to me and said I shouldn’t have asked the question. I thought it was a public safety issue. I couldn’t understand that negative reaction. I received thousands of calls to my office alone. I PERSONALLY TALKED TO 700 people . . . including active military . . . only one person in all that 700 said it was an airplane and that one person was a kid.
She wrote SENATOR MCCAIN [MCCHURIAN] He wrote the National Archives a letter that was sarcastic. I learned that the National Archives doesn’t answer—they file it.
Francis Barwood got a lot of [outraged] calls after the Governor’s press conference joke. She suggested: DON’T WASTE TIME WITH THE GOVERNOR—LISTEN TO THE WITNESSES.
Verele Nannen sp? FLARES DON’T BEHAVE THE WAY THE CRAFT AND CRAFT LIGHTS DID.
Aircraft dropping flares couldn’t achieve [anything close] to an exact triangle—MUCH LESS MAINTAIN IT. Flares leave a trail of smoke. Flares move at different speeds. The light intensity graph of flares is uneven, [with very irregular hills and valleys]. The light intensity graph of the craft’s lights taken from 35mm FILM is absolutely flat.
We did motion studies of different witness models such that no matter how we moved it, it would be accurate to the witnesses.
35mm film from a DR
Rand Molnar of Brookings Institute—concluded that the data was very valid.
A Luke AFB witness didn’t believe “our folks” were testing anything.
Luke AFB—my supervisor said 2 jets were scrambled [to observe it.]
Lynne De Kitei sp? Health Educator felt a calmness overtake the observers as the craft flew overhead—[an imposed kind of calmness effected by the craft]
There’s a FEMA Fire Fighters’ guide with details of how to respond to a UFO CRASH.
Dr Richard Hanes studying pilots’ reactions . . .
Gary Schwartz PhD Witness
Paul Cook PhD English prof witness.
Hila River Indian Reservation—been seeing for thousands of years—mountains ASTREYA sp? Mtns mean “Gateway to
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And this is a thread about Lt Haut’s affidavit signed a few years before his death:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1853198/posts
LT WALTER HAUT sp? Guest Bill Birnes.
In-depth to be in upcoming book WITNESS TO ROSWELL
RECAP what’s been known—Haut being ordered by Col Blanchard to write the press release about the UFO being real; then being ordered to recant it etc.
Walter Haut had seen the real wreckage. Jesse Marcel had also seen the real wreckage.
He begins—a regular format of an affidavit 2002; sworn before a witness and notarized by a local notary.
He was aware that someone had reported the remains of a downed vehicle the morning of July 7 1947.
Then he was aware of growing reports from the civilian sector. People were crawling over the place where the vehicle had been downed.
The next morning, he walks into the regular Roswell Airfield morning meeting . . . CID Captain . . . who went with Marcel to find the debris . . . he lists the names of those at the meeting . . .
And from Carswell Army Airforce Base . . . Ramey . . . . Col Thomas J Dubois . . . came to Roswell on July 8 . . . having a discussion of the extensive debris field in Lincoln County . . . . . . info provided by a 2nd site . . .
Samples of wreckage were passed around the table . . . Blanchard, and Haut and Ramey and Dubois . . . and Marcel . . . all sat as samples of the wreckage were passed around.
It was unlike any material I had or ever seen in my life . . . like foil but unusually strong . . . unusual markings . . . handed from man to man . . . no one was able to identify the crash debris.
. . . another bombshell.
One of the main concerns was whether we should go public . . . General Ramey originated a plan, which I believe originated from his bosses at the Pentagon . . . a cover story was devised to divert attention to the other debris field which had already had civilians already crawling all over it.
. . . hanger 84 . . . . Haut . . . upon first approaching the building I observed it was under heavy guard . . . these were soldiers that came from other units as well . . . already the Army was compartmentalizing it . . .
Approximately 12-15 feet in length and more of an egg shape . . . witnesses observing an object egg shaped being flatbedded through town . . . no windows, no portholes, no wings, no tail section, no landing gear. . . . I was able to see a couple of bodies under tarp . . . only the heads extended beyond the canvas . . . only the heads were larger than normal . . . 4 feet high the size of these creatures.
. . . Boyd’s father . . . the creature communicated to him he was dying . . . description by Haut was exactly like the aliens at the end of Close Encounters.
. . . he saw the live alien and he described him exactly the same way Haut and Boyd’s father described him—3 witnesses confirming the same description.
I assume that the hyperskeptics and naysayers will still find plenty of rationalization for disbelieving until a UFO lays an egg or a holding tank dump in their laps.
The retiring head of Lockeed Skunkworks said in his retirement speech . . .
“IF YOU CAN IMAGINE IT, WE CAN DO IT . . . WE ARE at least 50 YEARS AHEAD OF EVERYONE ELSE.”
They produced the SR71 etc.
That’s an incredible statement . . . particularly considering STARGATE SG1
Well, there you are, and until/unless you have an "anecdote" of your own, there you'll stay.
I've never seen one and hope I never do. I pray that all of us here today live out our lives with the "mystery" unanswered and you go to your grave an old FReeper with a good life to his/her credit convinced that I'm a kindly kook, and we will be lucky or at least, better timed in our existence on this old earth. That is very fine by me!
I once knew a young person who spent her entire life on a mountainous island 26 miles long and about 10 miles wide. When she was informed that on the mainland USA, she could not live with me in a town 250 miles away from Los Angeles and commute daily to UCLA, she laughed in good humored disbelief. I was a kook, in her world.
The "anecdotal" is something to chew on. Beyond times to count over my life, I've personally experienced very clear phenomena which confirm soundly that human communication goes beyond the five senses. Psychic phenomenon are a reality. Many people who have never had that experience, would think I'm a kook if they knew my real thoughts on the matter.
The "anecdotal" for UFO is not so strange to me, having seen the odd blindness and denial with regard to psychic reality. "There are more things on heaven and earth, Horatio ..."
Forgot to ping all.
You do know that a ping to all, pings no one, don’t you?
That’s been turned off?
No, I didn’t know that.
LOL.
When did it get turned off?
When was the last time you got a ping to all?
That’s when it was turned off.
They don't have camera phones over there yet?
Guess I haven’t paid that much attention.
LOL.
Thx.
“All;”
seems to be working on the Threat-Matrix thread.
I assume you’ve read these excerpts from earlier threads . . . e.g. THE AZTEC 2008 conf.
Any new sighting stuff in your neck of the woods?
Read any good web pages on the topic recently?
I’m curious if you have a rationalization to pull out to deny this sort of evidence?
Johnson family of North central Kansas. Young boy & dog snowball arrived home late & went out to feed his prize sheep. He heard a sound like an out of balance old washing machine.
30-40 feet from him, a 10 foot diameter craft was hovering 5 feet off the ground. A luminous auquious something was coming out fo the center toward the ground but stopping 1 foot from the ground—NOT TOUCHING THE GROUND.
He wanted to run but couldn’t move & dog couldn’t move. All 100% silent . . . as it passed over hog shed, he went totally blind. Sound indicated it was receding into distance & his vision ?slowly? returns.
There was an 8foot diameter ring on the ground surface that was GLOWING BRIGHTLY. [photos taken in the dark with only the light of the ring are plenty bright.]
The soil in the ring was actually cool but with small craters. They noticed that after they touched the ring, their fingers became numb. Nurse wife couldn’t take pulses for 2 weeks.
Could ave read a newspaper from the luminous ring of soil 10 minutes after the craft left.
16 hours later, the sheriff took photo. Ring totally dehydrated down to 14 inches into the soil.
Water would bead up on it. Nov 1972
PS -- you forgot the "bitterly clinging" and "guns" part. ;-)
Cheers!
Certainly a lot of New Agers feel that way . . . and a lot of ‘ET’s’/ fallen angels/ nephilium/ watchers have been cultivating such a perspective . . .
including
the notion that UFO’s are going to come and RELIEVE THE EARTH OF THE BURDEN OF THE IDIOT CHRISTIANS who are characterized as holding the earth back from the NEW AGE.
Some Christians think that’s satan’s counterfeit to explain the RAPTURE.
We shall see.
Authentic Christianity is unique amongst all the religions of the world and over all of history.
It’s precepts are worth researching.
Josh McDowell’s NEW EVIDENCE THAT DEMANDS A VERDICT is a good starting place.
I seen me some flying saucers. And some flying plates, bowls, platters...man my wife was pissed! Luckily her aim ain’t too good!
Was it a problem with
mouth
deeds
undeeds
???
Just curious.
LOL.
Nothing going on here. I read something on the web last week about some pretty remarkable sightings down in Australia. I was surprised you didn't pick it up. Can't remember where I saw it. I'll look around.
Blessings
Right. Thanks. . . .
In the NEW TERRITORIES AREA of Australia.
Interesting and plentiful sightings but nothing photographically all that remarkable, yet.
It’s been all over ATS.
Yeah, these threads seem to bring out clueless sorts who are blindly addicted to making themselves wholesale vulnerable to a TYPE II error while smugly congratulating themselves on how safe their skepticism has made them from a TYPE I error. Sheesh.
Heading out to lunch shortly.
Blessings,
Well then Mr. Speaker. Beam Me Up!
Some interesting gleanings from or via ATS
FWIW:
Phil Schnieder lecture:
Schnieder comes across as reasonably authentic to this psychologist. Quite a lot of incredible assertions with exotic samples.
He was evidently terminated . . . at the time of this lecture, he’d already had 13 or so attempts on his life.
131 something underground bases 5700 feet underground . . . all connected by roads and almost mach 2 magneto leviton trains . . . 127 in lower 48 states. not counting some in Canada and northern Mexico . . . they average 4.25 cubic cubic miles; average cost 17 billion dollars each . . . employing 1800 to 10,000 people; Some large ones in Sweden—one—30 cubic miles . . . 2 Trillion dollars cost
Some of the bases only 2,000-3,000 foot depth. Some older ones only 500 feet depth now used for equipment storage.
Black budget over $1 TRILLION USD every 2 years.
11 civilizations visiting all the time . . . 9 of which are not very good—pretty bad . . . 2 benevolent supposedly left to deal with their own war problems . . .
Yes, the alien agenda is 100% tied into the NWO . . . the NWO is dismantaling governments and taking their orders from aliens in doing so.
The globalist puppet masters are also considered just as another source of food by the same aliens they are taking orders from . . . mostly that the aliens use our glandular secretions for food . . .
US AND RUSSIANS been working together on weather modifications possibly since the 1960’s.
Have the capacity to totally dissipate a hurricane.
A major agenda of the aliens is the one world government.
Lasers can melt out a tunnel 7 miles a day 28 feet diameter.
Military technology is 1,200 years more advanced than public technology.
39 prison/boot camps . . . 143 shackles per train car . . . UN PRISONER TRANSFER CARS . . .
$4,000-$40,000/month incomes working in underground bases
. . .
Supposedly Moon bases being built to fight aliens.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread368538/pg1
Canadian Defense Minister interview:
http://www.livevideo.com/video/84EA8E93D9D14F7A9F07FBE4D760B96C/bush-plans-for-war-in-space.aspx
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