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Does Obama trip to Hawaii pass the sniff test?

Posted on 10/20/2008 9:23:37 PM PDT by PaleoConCowboy

Obama's excuse for a visit to grandma's house doesn't want to pass the sniff test...

Claim 1: Obama to visit sick grandmother

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7679508.stm

US Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama is cancelling campaign events this week to visit his sick grandmother in Hawaii, an aide says.

Claim 2: Honolulu lawsuit filed to open Obama’s secret birth records

http://www.contrariancommentary.com/community/Home/tabid/36/mid/363/newsid363/283/Default.aspx

(HONOLULU, HI)(October 17, 2008) Obama nemesis and author Andy Martin filed suit in the First Circuit Court in Honolulu today seeking a court order to open Barack Obama’s secret birth records.

“One of Obama's most controversial and contentious issues that he has allowed to fester for years is the question of his birth certificate,” says Martin. "Obama has posted at least two versions, maybe more, of a 'certificate' on the Internet.

“I want to see a certified copy issued by the State of Hawaii, not one issued by the State of Obama. Why Obama won't allow direct access to his birth records is beyond me. But the closer we get to discovering the truth about Obama the more we understand why he is terrified of that truth.

“What is Obama hiding? Frankly, after being in Hawaii and conducting our first round of interviews, we think we have a clearer picture of what Obama is concealing, and why. We have more research and interviews to conduct before we can announce our opinions.

“In the meantime, I filed a lawsuit against the State of Hawaii to require the state to open Obama’s birth records. The Governor and Director of the Department of Health are named as defendants.

“The case has been docketed as number 08-1-2147-10 and assigned to Circuit Judge Bert Ayabe.


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KEYWORDS: antichrist; certifigate; freeperidiocy; leftwingconspiracy
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To: blackbart.223
Newsbreak [vanity]- nObama spotted in local Honolulu KINKO's with half reem of blank certificates, three bottles of white-out, and one Xacto knife set.

Hmmmmmmmmmm....very interestink!
61 posted on 10/20/2008 10:12:54 PM PDT by wubjo (nO Terrorists; nO Tyranny; nObama)
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To: igoramus08
James Cone is the inventor of Black Liberation Theology. You can youtube or google him for his videos and quotes.

Thank you! I've heard of the 'theology' but not its inventor.

62 posted on 10/20/2008 10:14:57 PM PDT by nutmeg (Sarah Palin/Joe the Plumber 2008)
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To: wubjo

Gotta go. Unlike most Obama supporters I have a job. I need some sleep.


63 posted on 10/20/2008 10:18:55 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: IndianPrincessOK
OR destroy any pictures and incriminating evidence, records if she passes......

Yep, that too. Then there still is the matter of the Berg law suit. If obama cannot produce a legal Hawaiian BC then he still has a problem. My guess is that the DNC will successfully stall Berg's suit until after the election.

64 posted on 10/20/2008 10:25:20 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: RasterMaster
"...And so he converted to Islam-he thought its practices conformed more closely to his beliefs.” Said of Obama's grandfather who rejected Christianity teaching such tenets as "mercy" and salvation from "sins".

Clearly his grandfather preferred bombs (William Ayers), radicalism (Sol Alinsky), violence (Weatherman), hatred (Jeremiah Wright), extremism (Louis Farrakhan), political genocide (Raila Odinga), tyranny (Franklin Marshall Davis), anti-semitism (Rashid Khalidi), fraud (ACORN) and deceit (Wade Rathke).

Apparently, beliefs may be genetic!
65 posted on 10/20/2008 10:33:19 PM PDT by wubjo (nO Terrorists; nO Tyranny; nObama)
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NObama will have a tough time finding his real birth certificate since his Kenyan Grandma (and other family members) say he was born in Kenya.

Who's running this "election" from the Dim side, anyway? Anyone care about something called the "Constitution" in the so-called "Democrat" party?

66 posted on 10/20/2008 10:53:58 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: NoRedTape

Tell you the truth I was thinking the same thing but I didn’t think so many people thought the same way. Unfortunately, he has established a pattern of deception. Is it a coincidence that she gets siok the same day that Mr.Martin files a lawsuit to see Obama’s birth certificate? In addition he knows that the McCain campaign has to be careful in the next couple of days to not appear mean-spirited and taking advantage of a distrssing situation which of course the MSM will play up if John and Sarah go on any sort of attack.


67 posted on 10/20/2008 11:09:58 PM PDT by techno
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To: PaleoConCowboy
I just shortened this from pages to lines, you're welcome.

I sincerely hope that Mrs. Dunham is either well now or will soon be well.
I even hope that BHO truely believes she needs his presence in Hawaii and that this isn't yet another leftist sham planned to cover for less humane motives and deeds.

However, hopes aside, I'd bet that she is no better or worse today than six months ago, and I'd bet big that Lord Obama is up to the tricks we've come to expect.

68 posted on 10/20/2008 11:20:46 PM PDT by norton
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To: PaleoConCowboy

Run, granny, RUN!


69 posted on 10/20/2008 11:51:58 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: PaleoConCowboy

OK. I’m new here though my first vote was for Goldwater. And ignore me if you must, but why in the hell are we wasting time on this issue? Even FactCheck said they checked the birth certificate and said it was valid. And, anyway, it is going to be one of two things:

1) it is valid

2) no one is ever going to let the invalidity see the light of day.

And doesn’t evenyone think that if he wasn’t eligible that Hillary would have discovered this? I just see us as wasting a hell of a lot of time on BS hoping for a silver bullet. Well, that’s just this old man’s thoughts.


70 posted on 10/20/2008 11:51:59 PM PDT by Klepto
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To: tirednvirginia

“It sounds as good as “I’m suspending my campaign to go back to Washington and work on the bailout.” “

Other than the fact that McCain’s ‘natural born citizenry’ is not is question, but Obama’s may be?

If Obama is a ‘natural born’ citizen, why does his attorney want to have the petitions thrown out, rather than simply producing a certified birth certificate?


71 posted on 10/20/2008 11:52:01 PM PDT by PaleoConCowboy
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To: Billthedrill
If anyone is going to smother grandma with a pillow, there should be no screw ups and no witnesses. This isn't something that you leave to an underling. ------ Now, now. It is entirely possible that smothering granny with a pillow isn't the only reason he's gone to Hawaii. There is the room service...
72 posted on 10/20/2008 11:52:04 PM PDT by PaleoConCowboy
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To: techno
as I see it, hussein can simply say he is a natural citizen and dare anyone to prove otherwise....

racism will be his cover.....as in "those evil racists" just want to dethrone my rightful place as the messiah....

73 posted on 10/21/2008 3:37:35 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Klepto
Hillary's people are behind a lot of this investigation....,

the Annenberg people sponser Factcheck....hussein was on their board IIRC......a little too close if you ask me.

while hussein might just ignore everything, there appear to be at least 3 citizens in 3 states bringing up the specter of hussein not being eligible, and it seems that would have to be addressed somehow, somewhere....

then again, this is America, home of the lawyer class ....

74 posted on 10/21/2008 3:41:49 AM PDT by cherry
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To: research99

I read that thread, but think I’ll wait for an actual court ruling prior to trumpeting that one.


75 posted on 10/21/2008 6:44:13 AM PDT by dmz
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To: teletech

“My guess is that the DNC will successfully stall Berg’s suit until after the election. “

For whatever pull it is the Gov. of Hawaii is a close friend of Palins and Republican!!


76 posted on 10/21/2008 8:55:11 AM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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To: teletech
“My guess is that the DNC will successfully stall Berg's suit until after the election. “

For whatever pull it is Gov.Linda Lingle of Hawaii is a close friend of Palins and Republican!!

77 posted on 10/21/2008 8:57:19 AM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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To: IndianPrincessOK
For whatever pull it is Gov.Linda Lingle of Hawaii is a close friend of Palins and Republican!!

Hmmmmm. Very interesting.

78 posted on 10/21/2008 9:10:41 AM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: cherry

Well, could be. I just think that waiting for someone to wave the magic wand and come up with a silver bullet that seems, at best, specious is a waste of time. There is SO much about which to talk and I just think if this were true, it would have come out a long time ago. But, no one asked me how to run things so . . . lol


79 posted on 10/21/2008 10:09:50 AM PDT by Klepto
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To: PaleoConCowboy

There may be a reason to go to Hawaii independent of Grandma, but why would Obama’s physical presence in Hawaii be needed for a birth certificate claim? It wouldn’t.


80 posted on 10/21/2008 10:16:28 AM PDT by Plutarch
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