Posted on 12/20/2008 6:31:35 PM PST by rocco55
Attorney Berg said Mr. Obama is probably an "illegal alien".
If we cannot access his passports, his birth certificate, his college records:
1. Occidental College records -- Not released 2. Columbia College records -- Not released 3. Columbia Thesis paper -- "Not available" 4. Harvard College records -- Not released 5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released 6. Medical records -- Not released 7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- Not available 8. His Illinois State Senate records -- Not available 9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released 10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released 11. Record of baptism -- Not available
and if he has multiple names:
Barack Hussein Obama a/k/a Barry Hussein Obama a/k/a Barack Dunham a/k/a Barry Dunham a/k/a Barack Soetoro a/k/a Barry Soetoro
AND he specifically answered the "Any other names" on his bar application to obtain a law degree as "No", we can be sure MANY things about his past warrant serious and intense investigation !
I e-mailed Governor Lingle prior to Andy Martin's case requesting that she stand up for our Constitution. She IS a Republican and she DID make a comment prior to the election that Mr. Obama had limited political experience, so she may have somewhat of a clue what's going on - maybe a BIG CLUE ! Why else would Hussein send her a "Dear Linda" letter ?
Also, being from CT, I have been e-mailing Cort Wronowski for several weeks. It was TOO PITIFUL to see how the state dismissed his case and according to a radio interview, Leo said the state of CT refused to hear his case on improper grounds that did not even apply to his application as it was submitted. SURPRISE ! SURPRISE !
I also wrote Joseph Lieberman (our CT Senator) via certified mail and explained "in detail" the legitimacy of the TRUTH regarding "Factcheck", the short form cert and Obama's "sealed" history ! Is this the behavior of a cooperative official who wants to get to the TRUTH and bring about all this CHANGE ?
I informed him that, to date, there is NOT ONE hospital or medical facility in all Hawaii that has ANY record of Mr. Obama's birth and asked point blank: "Does this, in your highly qualified legal opinion, pose even the slightest 'shadow of a doubt' of this candidate's qualifications ?"
I further stated that if Mr. Obama is inaugurated on 1/20/09, he will place his hand on the Bible and vow to the American people that he will:
"PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES" ! !
I asked Mr. Lieberman:
"Could anything be more IMMEASURABLY IRONIC ????"
About 10 days back, I ran a post in FreeRepublic inquiring about OBAMA'S COLLEGE YEARBOOK. He graduated from Harvard in 1991, but is NOT in the 1991 Harvard Yearbook ! If he was the President of the Harvard Law Review, WHY NOT ?
I went on EBAY and searched EVERY possible college document, article, yearbook, alumni book, sports journal, etc. for Occidental, Princeton and Harvard Universities. I e-mailed questions to the sellers of the applicable items and asked if there was ANY mention of Barry or Barack and ALL of the replies were "NO, SORRY" !
One FreeRepublic reader commented that he went to Harvard personally and searched all College newspapers, announcements, etc., during the Obama years and was dismayed to find "several" missing pages ! He went to other years (prior and after Obama's attendance) and the papers were all intact ! Is this a coincidence ?
Obama's staff probably frequents this site daily to keep one step ahead of the competition. Having unlimited resources and a 30 million dollar campaign surplus, he can afford to have a 24/7 staff searching ANY negative feedback and once they find it, they can GOOGLE it to death with rebuttals. I told a friend who accused me of being an "ultra-right-wing die-hard Republican" about six weeks ago to search 'Obama birth certificate' on line and see for herself.
She wrote back and said the first 6 hits all said the birth cert is real and it was even verified by TWO reviewers "FactCheck" and "PolitiFact" ! Pul----lease !
I was recently summoned for Jury Duty and today I wrote the Judicial Branch of CT that I will not serve Jury duty because the state of CT turned down Cort Wronowski's case and sent in their electoral votes without verifying that Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen and he may not even be a U.S. citizen AT ALL ! Consequently, I cannot serve a judicial system that does not uphold and defend our Constitution.
Obama most likely attended college as a "foreign student" and is possibly still not a legal U.S. citizen. Why else would he go to such great lengths to "seal" ---or better stated, "CONCEAL" his past ?
The dilemma we face is, without someone kidnapping his children and holding them hostage for his birth cert, we might all DIE with that document sitting in a vault ! How sad is that ?
I entertained the idea of actually renting a Highway Billboard (I heard it's approximately $1500 for one month) with a slogan that could not be regarded as racist --possibly :
"I'D RATHER HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT IS 100% BLACK AND HONEST THAN ONE WHO IS HALF-WHITE AND WON'T SHOW HIS BIRTH CERT ! "
How else can we get the attention of ANYONE ? 99% of all Americans do not even know there is a CRISIS going on because when the MSM covers a "lawsuit dismissal", it is portrayed in a such a negative light with the usual "Factcheck" references and the "mis-information" that the state of Hawaii has "confirmed that Obama was born there", that the public has no choice but to accept it ! Of course, they think we're kooks ! It's what they're being told by NBC, CBS, FOX, Associated Press, etc.
Would it make sense to file a more basic and fundamental lawsuit (possibly against Pelosi, who had the unmitigated gall to sign off on his eligibility) to verify if Hussein is even a U. S. citizen AT ALL ? Would that obligate the defendants to produce even a passport, or this that TOO MUCH to hope for ? !
I find myself searching and praying for ANY legitimate way of exposing this Usurper...only saving grace is, if we are near the "end of the World", maybe this is part of God's plan....when ancient Israel rejected Him, He gave them what they wanted "King Saul", who proved to be unfaithful and was superseded by David...but for us, we can still fight and appeal our cause....even JESUS called Herod a "fox" !
Any attorneys out there ? Is a case against Pelosi worth pursuing ? Is the "cititzen" question, in and of itself (without the 'natural born' issue) a case less likely to be dismissed ? Can anyone else brainstorm a better option ??
Well, I do see you’re listening to the volume of proof, and thank you.
What I have issue with is the American Sheep. The majority of the Sheep have broken faith with their veterans past and present. They have embraced the enemy and I no longer have any faith in them, nor do I have any compulsion to continue to defend them. My oath constrains me to continue, though, and so I must.
Like I told someone else on this thread, we have lost the culture war. We are now in an insurgency, and we better figure out how to fight as insurgents. Part of being an insurgent is realizing that you cannot win the fight force-onforce with the enemy. You have to select your battles based on the limited resources you have.
We do not have the media; but we do have the Internet and talk radio, for now. We do not have the schools, and never will. We do have the military, para-military, and the veterans - for now. We are losing the propaganda war with the COLB thing; the Sheep refuse to listen, based on the media’s work. Time to cut our losses and pick the next fight; and the next fight after that. I have not given up, but I must recognize when to quit.
Thank you, LucyT, for informing me that you know that Old Sarge is a veteran. I would never intentionally insult any of our active military men and women, nor a veteran.
I had no way of knowing that he is in fact, a veteran.
I think you are right about being in an insurgency. I disagree that this issue is a big loser. Heck it's barely penetrated the national consciousness. If it's for naught, which seems increasingly likely, it will be soon forgotten. But it does have the potential for a really big payoff. Sort of like a buried 105 round, on a little traveled road.
Then there is the little matter of our oaths. Ignoring a potentially ineligible pretender to the office of President, is not exactly supporting the Constitution against domestic enemies or possibly foreign enemies, come to that. Besides which, this whole thing may yet be resolved without a hot insurgency. Although time for that is running out, and finding out in 2010 that the President is an illegal alien, or otherwise ineligible to the office, is not going to help keep things cool.
No thanks needed, Old Sarge.
I agree with almost everything you said. Where we disagree is that you want to quit putting pressure on Obama and the courts in order to prevent a potential Constitutional crisis. I think this issue is far to important to ignore and quitting would be a win for Obama.
This COLB issue wouldn’t have ever even made any of the news....not in the national media and not online...if it hadn’t been for those of us who have pushed and shoved this issue to the forefront. It has taken a long, long time to get this issue to where it is today and I’m not about to give up the battle when we have gained some ground and the fight is so important.
Heck, I don’t care if you don’t want to be a part of the fight. What bothers me is that you’re trying to beat down the troops that do want to fight.
Like our troops, we can fight on many fronts at the same time.
I think the point is that they were not fake names, but rather his legal name at various times. Soetero because he was adopted by Solo Soetero, his mother's second husband, assuming she really was married to BHO senior. But if she wasn't then Dunham would have been his name. Also it's possible that his "typical white" grandmother (and possibly gramps too) adopted him after his mother sent him back to Hawaii from Indonesia. Who knows? That too is the point, who knows!
now Obama is one of the most famous persons on the globe as the man in control of the nuclear powerhouse, presiding over what was once a major economic power.
You’re welcome, CaribouCrossing. I understand.
I appreciate that, LucyT. Thank you.
Not sure I swallow the Malcom X theoery, but if
Malcom Little is his Daddy, then we have a name of:
BARRY DUNHAM LITTLE 6-6-6
Actually, if Sotero is an alternate spelling of his last name it still works:
Barry (6) Dunham (6) Sotero (6)
Yes, and my comment still stands. The man looks like his (maternal) grandfather. Imagine that.
I don't, but many people do. I'm told I look a bit like maternal great Uncle Earl, who I have no memory of, although he was not that much older than my mother.
Frank Choussein Obama
F X O
six six-hundred sixty
Check for a vertical mark on the upper lips... you’ll see Barry inherited his upper lip from his father Frank Marshall Davis, not from Obama Sr.
If you put Stanley Ann’s huge jayleno chin on Frank’s receded chin, you get Barry’s chin.
Agree that the rest of his facial featurs look most like Stanley Armour Dunham’s...
God Bless your son for his service and sacrifice..
Please thank him..
That being said..
You commented on a post that had nothing to do with you..
This was your comment:
“In my opinion, there are some people who post online and use names such as “sarge” to give people the impression that they have served in the U.S. military”
Who was it directed at, if not Old Sarge?
As far as “high horses” go..
I’ve never been on one..
I try to do what is right by the Military by Honoring our Fallen in The Patriot Guard.
That is all I have to say.
But here, we find you just did.
I dare say that no one, no one, respects our military men and women more than I do. I come from a long, long line of military service. Our eldest son served in Iraq.
Then you have yet to meet Ms. Behavin; a Patriot Guard Rider, veteran's daughter, and renowned troop supporter. She has defended my brothers and sisters under arms with determined zeal, and gave me unwavering help when my mother died while I was in Ramadi.
Since you have said that you had family downrange, perhaps you might decide to take advantage of the things she knows? Ms. B. is a fountain of resource for getting MWR support for the gang in the Sandbox - I know, my soldiers have personally benefitted from her generosity. So can you. Ask her politely, and she can direct you to places of patriotism both on FR and off-site.
Earn her friendship. And you'll be glad you did. It's worth mithril.
Looking ahead and to the future after Obama gets his chance at the Whitehouse and the subject of “citizen” becomes trash along the highway I can see no reason why Arnold Schwarzenegger cannot run for VP if not be nominated as President, legally he can be VP nominated.
Let us know how that works for you...
Thank you for that information, Old Sarge.
Ms. Behavin, thank you very much for all you have done and continue to do for our troops. I was not aware of your support and generosity, but now that I am, you have my utmost respect and gratitude.
God bless you both.
Caribou
The Electoral College has voted for him, next step is presentation to both house of Congress, and the House and Senate then make the final decision. If they vote for Obama, that’s the end of it. The courts have no role to play. Read the words of the Constitution and this is clear.
Let’s oppose Mr. Obama and his agenda in other more likely to succeed ways.
12th Amendment to the Constitution:
The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;
The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;
“The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.
The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”
By the way, Harvard Law School issues a separate yearbook of its own, and students there are not listed in the Harvard College yearbook.
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