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Survivor: Tocantins
2-6-2009

Posted on 02/06/2009 5:48:05 PM PST by JillValentine

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To: JillValentine; Tatze

They usually have 1 or 2 players with a military background

Apparently you both did not watch the show. They did have a military guy who has been in for 26 years, but of course your quick statement without facts are more fun for you. Why are people so stupid when discussing things they are so ignorant about???? I will never understand that.


421 posted on 05/18/2009 1:10:17 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Tatze

Hey...that’s sort of like my idea. I’d like to see them take the top cheerleaders in pro sports and make four teams, NFL, NBA, NHL and NLL (lacrosse). The location would Tahiti, of course, and....

Never mind.


422 posted on 05/18/2009 1:15:17 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: JillValentine

Let me add my “thanks”! Great job, JillValentine.


423 posted on 05/18/2009 1:16:40 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: JillValentine

They had something along those lines in Allstars - four tribes of four. And Pearl Islands - Two tribes and then the Outcasts.

I’m not a huge fan of the tribal switches - although I did like it in Africa since it was a figurative monkey wrench in the plans of the annoying lazy Gen X’rs I called PlaySkool (as opposed to the older players on their tribe, which I called OldSkool).


424 posted on 05/18/2009 1:20:07 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: agarrett; AJMaXx; A knight without armor; Alice in Wonderland; alisasny; ...

SURVIVOR FINALE RECAP!

The Winner!: JT

Runner-Up: Stephen

The Jury: Brendan, Tyson, Sierra, Debbie, Coach, Taj, Erinn

Losers: Carolina, Candace, Jerry, Sandy, Spencer, Sydney, Joe

Well, ladies and gentlemen, another season of Survivor comes to an end. I'm happy with the way this season turned out, especially after having so many weak seasons recently (Fiji, China, Fiji, Gabon, Fiji. Oh, and Fiji). And thanks to all who participated in the thread.

And now, presenting the winner...

JT WINS THE $1 MILLION PRIZE

After 39 days, James "JT" Thomas Jr., the cattle rancher from Alabama, won the million-dollar prize in a 7-0 jury vote over Stephen Fishbach. JT's road to victory included a season-length partnership with Stephen, coming back from his tribe being down in numbers 6-3 at the merge, and a brutal blindside of close ally Tamara "Taj" Johnson-George at the Final Four.

MAKING THE FINAL FOUR

Stephen, JT, Erinn and Taj return to camp after voting out Coach at Tribal Council. “One in four shot at a million dollars!” Stephen celebrates. Stephen points out that JT voting for Erinn instead of Coach will make him look like the villain. “It got you a lot of jury votes,” says JT. Stephen denies this and instead, accuses JT of making Stephen look bad in the eyes of the jury since he ultimately betrayed Coach by lying to him. “I need to think about who I want to be there at the end with…who can I beat at the end,” Stephen reveals.

STAYING IN THE GAME

The next morning, as the remaining Forza members awaken, JT is mesmerized at how his original tribe emerged victorious. “We were supposed to be gone a long time ago and to come over here outnumbered and now be three-to-one, and the entire jury is Timbira, I mean it’s a masterpiece,” marvels JT. Meanwhile, Stephen and Taj contemplate voting out JT if he loses immunity. “Better him than me,” says Stephen.

JT and Erinn check treemail, which includes a plastic spider. Erinn reads treemail to her tribe, and vows to win immunity at the next challenge. “I would definitely like to win immunity today, otherwise it could very well be me going home,” says Erinn.

IMMUNITY CHALLENGE: TARANTULA

The final four arrive on their mat, which is the middle of a giant tarantula-shaped obstacle course. Host Jeff Probst explains the rules of the challenge. Each person will race through a tarantula-shaped obstacle course to three different stations where they will retrieve a bag of puzzle pieces from each. Once all three bags have been collected, they will use those puzzle pieces to solve a web-shaped puzzle. The first person to get it right wins immunity.

The castaways race off into different netted legs of the tarantula. JT is the first to retrieve a bag of puzzle pieces, and races out to retrieve his second. The other three tribe members struggle to maneuver through the course, while JT continues to collect his bags of puzzle pieces. At one point, JT actually crawls over Taj when they find themselves in the same leg of the tarantula. Stephen catches up and retrieves his first and second bags while JT begins working on his puzzle. Stephen eventually collects all three bags of puzzle pieces and begins working on his puzzle along side JT. Taj finally makes it to the puzzle stage of the challenge, followed by Erinn in last place. As JT gets closer to finishing his puzzle, Erinn makes a miraculous comeback and catches up with JT. In the end, JT completes his puzzle only seconds ahead of Erinn. JT wins immunity, guaranteeing him a spot in the final three.

LAST CHANCE

Upon returning to camp after the immunity challenge, Erinn, the last of the original Timbira Tribe, makes a suave final attempt to stay in the game. “I don’t want to make it seem as though I’m scrambling,” says Erinn. Erinn meets with Stephen and JT in the river and pleads her case. Erinn states that Taj has a very good chance of winning jury votes if she were to make it to the final two. Stephen and JT contemplate voting out Taj for these reasons and consider taking Erinn with them instead, since she would also be much easier to go up against in the next immunity challenge. “As long as me and you are solid, I don’t give a damn what we do, man,” JT says to Stephen. The duo returns to the fire pit and reassures Taj that they are voting out Erinn. “We’re not sure what we’re gonna do tonight, but Stephen and I are gonna stick together in every decision we make,” says JT before walking out to Tribal Council.

FIRST TRIBAL COUNCIL

At Tribal Council, Stephen reveals Jalapao’s game plan of sticking together and systematically voting out the remaining Timbira members. Erinn admits that she would not be surprised if the pattern continues and she is the next to go. Stephen scrambles when Jeff Probst puts him on the spot by asking him if his decision tonight will be based on Coach’s philosophy of taking the best to the end. Stephen is caught off-guard and ultimately reveals that he will base his vote on how to better assure him a spot in the finals. In the end, JT and Stephen went against their original tribe and voted out Taj. With three out of the four votes cast against her, Taj Johnson-George, the 37-year old former pop star from Nashville, Tennessee, became the thirteenth person voted out and sixth member of the jury of SURVIVOR: TOCANTINS: THE BRAZILIAN HIGHLANDS.

A HARD VOTE

The final three return to camp after Tribal Council. JT admits that the decision to vote out Taj was not an easy one. He begins to regret his decision almost immediately when Erinn proceeds to annoy everyone with her non-stop chatter. Stephen clearly has the same feelings as JT when he reflects on being in the final three. “It’s definitely tainted by the fact that we voted out Taj, and that hurts, and also just Erinn just chattering away and that’s annoying and totally ignorant of any sort of emotional turmoil that JT and I are going through,” says Stephen.

RITES OF PASSAGE

The next morning, Erinn forms a pact with Stephen to take him to the final two if either of them wins immunity. “He’s gonna fight like hell to win today,” says Erinn. “We too must fight like hell to win,” replies Stephen. Faced with a difficult decision should JT not win immunity, Stephen struggles to decide whether he should stay true to his word and take JT to the finals, or do what should guarantee him a million dollars by taking Erinn.

Later that morning, Stephen and JT vow to stick together until the end no matter what. They shake hands and wait in excitement for the upcoming challenge. “One of us is gonna win that million dollars, and they’re gonna have to decide between me and you,” says JT. Stephen, Erinn and JT then check treemail, which explains that each of them must cross the river where they will find the torches of their fallen comrades. At each torch they will collect a representative idol of those who were voted out before them. At the end of the journey, they will burn them to pay their respects and will then proceed to their final immunity challenge.

The final three make their way to the top of a mountain where they pay their respects to each of the castaways that had been voted out. After all of the representative idols have been collected, they burn them in a small fire pit and prepare themselves for the final immunity challenge. “There’s no reason why I’ll lose this challenge and it’s gonna take an act of Congress to get me to step down from anything…I mean, I won’t. My body will have to fail me,” says JT.

IMMUNITY CHALLENGE: SIMMOTION

The final three make their way to the final immunity challenge and arrive on their mat. Host Jeff Probst explains the rules of the challenge. Each person must place a ball in a chute, where it will spiral downward until it drops out of the bottom, where it must be caught and placed back in the chute. Every few minutes, another ball must be added. The balls will alternately fall out of the left and then the right side of the chute, making it more difficult to keep track of which side they will exit from. Each ball must be caught before it hits the ground. As soon as someone allows one of their balls to hit the ground, that person is out of the challenge. In a final twist, Jeff reveals that one hand will be tied behind their back to make things more difficult. The last person standing wins immunity.

The challenge begins using one ball, which everyone gets through with ease. Jeff then orders another ball to be added. All three castaways seem to get the hang of it until a third ball is added. Erinn drops a ball and is out of the challenge. JT and Stephen now battle it out for a guaranteed spot in the final Tribal Council. A fourth ball is added, ramping things up. Stephen slips up and drops a ball, granting JT final immunity.

THE FINAL DECISION

Back at camp, Stephen expresses utter relief that JT won immunity instead of himself because it saved him from having to make the difficult decision of who to take to the finals. Erinn probes JT to see who he is leaning towards taking to the finals, and makes a case against Stephen. She reveals that Stephen made a promise to her to take her to the finals if JT lost immunity. “You would be the more logical person to take…no doubt about it,” JT admits to Erinn.

Stephen begins to worry as Tribal Council draws nearer, and questions JT regarding his decision. “Why take a gamble on me when he can have a lock with Erinn?” ponders Stephen. JT struggles with the dilemma of taking Stephen, his ally and friend since Day One, or Erinn, who would be a better person to guarantee him the million-dollar prize. “If I was to lose because of that decision I made, I think everybody would be pretty disappointed in me,” says JT.

SECOND TRIBAL COUNCIL

At Tribal Council, Erinn describes her earlier pitch to JT, in which she argued that JT would have a much better shot going up against her in the final two instead of Stephen. Stephen’s defense is that he and JT have had long-term commitments to each other that were founded on the first day of the game. JT admits that both Stephen and Erinn have made legitimate cases, and he is faced with a predicament either way. Stephen becomes fearful and mentions that JT has made serious promises to him, and he would be severely disappointed if JT went against his word. Ultimately, JT stuck to his word and voted out Erinn, bringing his longtime friend, Stephen, to the end as promised. Erinn Lobdell, the 26 year-old hairstylist from Waukesha, Wisconsin, became the fourteenth person voted out and seventh member of the jury of SURVIVOR: TOCANTINS: THE BRAZILIAN HIGHLANDS.

THE FINAL TWO

As the sun rises on Day 39, JT and Stephen celebrate making it to the end. “Stephen is here with me just like we planned a long time ago. It’s kinda hard to believe,” says JT. The two check treemail and are awarded an abundance of breakfast food including eggs, sausages, pancakes, and orange juice. After devouring the meal, they open a bottle of champagne and toast to making it to Day 39. “Tastes like victory,” laughs Stephen. The duo reveals what their surprising first impressions of each other were. “In spite of our completely different backgrounds, our minds seemed to totally work in sync,” says Stephen. With the final Tribal Council on the horizon, JT and Stephen vow to put their friendships aside as they plead their cases for a million dollars. “I am not going out without a fight,” Stephen pledges.

FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL

At the final Tribal Council, JT and Stephen give their opening statements. Stephen is quick to point out that, although he is not an outdoorsman or athlete, he has transformed into a better person having gone through this experience and improved on his survival skills. JT bluntly admits that he could have easily won against Erinn in the final Tribal Council but, instead, did the noble thing and took Stephen with him.

The jury addresses Stephen and JT, asking them vital questions to help them decide who is the most worthy of the million-dollar prize. As the questions get tougher, JT and Stephen begin to turn against each other. Stephen’s defense is that, despite his physical weaknesses, he outwitted the other tribe members to get himself as far as he did. JT professes that he was a natural leader, provider, and outstanding physical competitor. Debbie brings up an interesting point when she asks Stephen if he would have taken JT with him had he won immunity. Stephen stumbles on the question, but finally reveals that he is afraid that he would have brought Erinn with him instead. Sierra lashes out at JT for taking weak players with him to the end. “That just might be your downfall and the reason why you’re not getting a million dollars,” Sierra snaps. Stephen is devastated when JT lashes out, saying that he did not need Stephen to get him as far as he did. The final jury member, Taj, becomes emotional as she asks her two closest allies why they turned on her. While JT apologizes, Stephen attacks JT for wanting to take out Taj because she had a better chance at winning the final immunity challenge over Erinn. This comment prompts an argument between JT and Stephen, ending with JT asking Stephen whether or not he would have taken Erinn with him to the finals instead of JT had he won immunity. Stephen dismisses the question. “I just feel like a fool, man,” says JT, shaking his head.

Having given the final two a chance to plead their case, the jury members cast their votes for the winner. Host Jeff Probst reads the votes live from New York City, and with seven of seven votes cast for him, James "J.T." Thomas of Alabama won the title of Sole Survivor and the million dollar prize for SURVIVOR: TOCANTINS: THE BRAZILIAN HIGHLANDS.

I'll see you again for Survivor: Samoa this fall.

425 posted on 05/18/2009 1:40:58 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: JillValentine

Thanks Jill for hosting this site and all the work that goes into it. See you in Samoa!


426 posted on 05/18/2009 1:57:36 PM PDT by girlscout
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To: napscoordinator; Tatze

Huh? Neither Tatze nor I ever stated that SeeBS did not cast veterans on the show. I simply stated that Tatze’s idea of an all-veteran Survivor probably would not be accepted by SeeBS because I couldn’t see SeeBS doing something that pro-military.

I’ve watched Survivor since the first season. I know what I’m talking about. In fact, one of my favorite contestants is Rudy, the former Navy SEAL from Season 1. I’m well aware of veterans being cast for the show. I just can’t see SeeBS doing an all-veteran season.

napscoordinator, if my criticism of SeeBS offends you...well, then that’s your problem. And what makes you think you need to resort to personal attacks and name-calling to make your point? I do this thread for the enjoyment of FR’s Survivor fans. I’d appreciate it if you would show some respect and refrain from the personal attacks.


427 posted on 05/18/2009 1:58:17 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: All

When JT, Stephen, and Erinn blindsided Taj at the Final Four, was anyone else reminded of Brian, Clay, and Jan’s blindside of Helen back in Thailand?


428 posted on 05/18/2009 2:04:50 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: napscoordinator

Were you looking in the mirror when you wrote that because if you weren’t you should have been. :-) Go back and see what was said and what the intention was. Everyone here knows that Jerry was our resident military guy this season. I believe the intent for the post was for CBS to have an entire cast of military folks, not just the 1 or 2 we usually see.


429 posted on 05/18/2009 2:06:47 PM PDT by girlscout
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To: JillValentine

Your memory is far better than mine. I would fail horribly in a trivia game.


430 posted on 05/18/2009 2:12:19 PM PDT by girlscout
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To: napscoordinator; JillValentine; Tatze

Tatze wrote “I had a thought last night for an interesting season of Survivor. They usually have 1 or 2 players with a military background. Why not have a season of nothing but players with military backgrounds?”

napscoordinator;

Your post does not reflect what Jill and Tatze were talking about. They, as well as the rest of us, are aware that military people, as individuals, show up regularly on the show.

They were talking about an all military season.

Apparently you didn’t read the posts they made, you just knee jerked a post.


431 posted on 05/18/2009 2:14:39 PM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: napscoordinator

Apparently you did not read my post! Why are people so stupid when replying to posts they don’t read? I will never understand that.


432 posted on 05/18/2009 2:46:08 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: JillValentine

I always wanted me a Talking Rudy Doll.


433 posted on 05/18/2009 3:50:35 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: JillValentine

Oh yeah....and I remember Helen’s response when Jeff asked her at the reunion if she would have voted the way she had for the Final Two if she’d known then what she knew now after view the season: Rapid head shake and a “heck NO!”


434 posted on 05/18/2009 3:52:52 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: JillValentine
Thank you so much for running this thread. I look forward to the next survivor.

Back in 2002 Mark Burnett did a survivor show with veterans and S.W.A.T. officers. If I remember correctly S.W.A.T. won.
Rudy was the host and it was great.

COMBAT MISSIONS http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0283177/

It originally aired on some cable channel, they never renewed the show. Maybe it wasn't renewed because of low ratings, or because we went to war, or because their was no backstabbing or lying. But the show was great.

One of the contestants was later killed in Iraq.
Scott Helvenston - the youngest Navy Seal. RIP Sir and Thank you for my freedom.

435 posted on 05/18/2009 5:17:09 PM PDT by Grazie (Serving those who served)
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To: girlscout

I think Brendan, JT, and Sierra are all very cute.


436 posted on 05/18/2009 5:24:55 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: PeteB570

An all military would be great!!!


437 posted on 05/18/2009 5:46:47 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: JillValentine
Thank you Jill for the thread. I am glad JT won.

Now what are we going to do on Thursdays?

438 posted on 05/18/2009 5:53:36 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: JillValentine

Thanks Jill.

Lotsa of work but very appreciated : )


439 posted on 05/18/2009 5:55:36 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: Shyla

Dang...want to read the last of the sites but service unavailable...

: (


440 posted on 05/18/2009 6:07:40 PM PDT by Shyla
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