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This was inland. I don't even believe that once you show that you are a US Citizen (with a Passport) at a border crossing that the government has the right to search to search without probable cause or a warrant.

The courts have stated NUMEROUS times that simple proximity to the border grants border officials (such as Customs & Border Protection Officers and Border Patrol Agents) probable cause to search.

Think about it. Out in the desert, there's a million places to cross the actual border, but there's only one road going north for several hundred miles. You set up a checkpoint fifty or sixty miles inland knowing that most of the illegals and dope smugglers aren't going to hike overland more than ten or twenty miles before they link up with their transportation north.

Now, 99% of the folks that come through just roll down their window, say "US Citizen" and they're on their merry way. Of the one percent that don't do that, 99% of them are either illegals or drug smugglers.

Now this gentleman comes through, whose sole purpose is to antagonize the OBP agents into a confrontation. He got exactly what he wanted.

Finally, I'd be wary of any "pastor" who wasn't familiar with 1 Peter 2:13-17 :

"Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. For it is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men. Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as servants of God. Show proper respect to everyone: Love the brotherhood of believers, fear God, honor the king."

71 posted on 04/24/2009 6:27:21 AM PDT by Terabitten (To all RINOs: You're expendable. Sarah isn't.)
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To: Terabitten
Think about it.

I have thought about it. You can tell me that the Courts have said that the Bill of Rights doesn't apply within 100 miles of the border. Maybe you are right, which would mean I am subject to whatever searches and seizures some bureaucrat wants to subject me to as it's only about 25 miles from me to the coast here. The courts have said lots of things. The government can compel the sale of property for the benefit of private businesses. It can restrict what sort of arms you can bear, and maybe whether you can bear them at all. It can subject you to multiple trials for the same supposed offense. It can prohibit your financial support of political candidates. I could go on.

And these inland checkpoints are absurd. The illegals obviously know where they are; and the government is obviously aware they do because they have posted "Wetbacks Crossing" signs at least north and south of the one I've driven through north of San Diego. If the border patrol really wants to deport illegals, have them send me some FReepMail and I'll get them to a place where more than 50% of the people are here illegally, and maybe they can stop harassing honest citizens at a place where they have less than a tenth of a percent chance of encountering someone here illegally. These checkpoints are just as stupid as subjecting my mother to a search when she gets on an airplane; and just as un-American.

You think about it.

ML/NJ

72 posted on 04/24/2009 6:55:05 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Terabitten

Finally, I’d be wary of any “pastor” who wasn’t familiar with 1 Peter 2:13-17 :

“Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men. Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as servants of God. Show proper respect to everyone: Love the brotherhood of believers, fear God, honor the king.”
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GO BACK TO ENGLAND!! If that is what our Fore Fathers had done we would STILL be under British law. WHEN does just defense come into play. Will you submit to the Anti-Christ when he is put in power??? Will you take his number, he will after all be the authority instituted by men. YOU are in big trouble!!


88 posted on 04/24/2009 1:41:37 PM PDT by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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