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Debating Leftists is Like Debating Charles Manson
Big Hollywood Blogs ^ | October 12, 2009 | Leigh Scott

Posted on 10/12/2009 5:24:36 PM PDT by WayneM

Debating Leftists is Like Debating Charles Manson by Leigh Scott

Keith Olbermann’s recent hour-long commentary was quite revealing.

Like Michael Moore’s “capitalism hasn’t done anything for me” comment, the outpouring of support and sympathy for serial pedophile and admitted rapist Roman Polanski, and President Obama’s shenanigans at the U.N. and G-20, it drove home a simple, powerful point… These people don’t know what they are talking about.

They do not know their kiesters from a hole in the ground. They are a few fries short of a happy meal and a few cards short of a full deck. Their phasers are permanently set on “clueless.”

Once you come to this realization, as many of us have, you are forced to approach their ideas and spokespeople from a position of reality. Not from some sanctimonious position of civility and “debate.”

For an actual debate, two things are needed. One, there must be a logical and factual distinction between two separate positions. Two, there must be equally matched participants, each one prepared and versed enough to intelligently present their side of the issue.

We don’t have that. We have one group of people who live in a fantasy world, full of twisted facts, backwards logic and wishful thinking. You can’t debate that. There is no factual, honest, or logical way to support their positions. It’s like arguing the best way to take a cross-country trip with a delusional Dungeons and Dragons geek. You want to reroute to avoid traffic on the I-10. He wants to “avoid the realm of the Bugbears.”

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This explains the futility of trying to convince an idiot of the truth.
1 posted on 10/12/2009 5:24:37 PM PDT by WayneM
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To: WayneM

Yesterday I was helping set up a Right-to-Life booth at the Chardon, Ohio, Tea Party. Some lady was already parked next to me waiting to go into the local library. I saw her bumper sticker that said 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB. I audibly snickered, and she asked me why I snickered. I mentioned her 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB sticker. “You don’t believe that Bush had the towers destroyed?” she asked. “Of course not,” I answered. “Well, then you’re a moron,” she answered and walked away.

Now there was an attempt at straight talk to the left that fell flat. Gotta’ love the libs


2 posted on 10/12/2009 5:31:51 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: WayneM

They shouldn’t insult DnD like that..


3 posted on 10/12/2009 5:31:51 PM PDT by Mmogamer (<This space for lease>)
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To: laweeks

You need to vacate NE Ohio.
I left in 1982.
It’s a sinkhole.


4 posted on 10/12/2009 5:33:36 PM PDT by nascarnation
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“You need to vacate NE Ohio.
I left in 1982.
It’s a sinkhole.”

Yeah, but where else can you find Kookcinich, cry-baby Voinovich, Metzenbaums, and that recently released felon from Youngstown . . . what was his name?


5 posted on 10/12/2009 5:37:16 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: WayneM

Just bitter people. They run every thing, still bitter. Could start a fight in an empty room.

Facts, just information in the way,

These people just want to burn the world,

I think some one put it correctly.

F em All - turn the garden hose on them


6 posted on 10/12/2009 5:39:17 PM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: WayneM
Michael Moore has no business lecturing anybody or making any film about “capitalism” because he can’t even define the word. He doesn’t understand what capitalism is!

After watching Hannity's interview of Moore that was abundantly clear. MM can't properly define capitalism, socialism or much of anything else. He tried to completely deny that his success had any connection to capitalism. MM fails Lemonade Stand 101.

7 posted on 10/12/2009 5:40:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everybody knows it's a spotted dog...)
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To: WayneM

We don’t have that. We have one group of people who live in a fantasy world, full of twisted facts, backwards logic and wishful thinking.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That’s because Liberalism/Marxism/Fascism is a religion.

They worship the golden calf of the state instead of God.


8 posted on 10/12/2009 5:41:21 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: laweeks

actually Traficant is probably OK.

although somebody said he was pretty bizarre recently doing a radio show in Cleve after he got out of jail.


9 posted on 10/12/2009 5:41:35 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: WayneM
Yep, pay attention to the GDP;

text describing the image text describing the image Tax Rates do Correlate with the GDP

Tax Rates do Correlate with the GDP,
but try to tell that to the Wealth Spreader

10 posted on 10/12/2009 5:42:39 PM PDT by Son House (OcarterCare by Congress will make all Americans = Wards of the State)
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To: Son House

Tax Rates do Correlate with the GDP

^^
that should be Tax Revenues do Correlate with the GDP,


11 posted on 10/12/2009 5:44:01 PM PDT by Son House (OcarterCare by Congress will make all Americans = Wards of the State)
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To: Son House
But just between you and me, let DU lurkers think I'm stupid
12 posted on 10/12/2009 5:46:35 PM PDT by Son House (OcarterCare by Congress will make all Americans = Wards of the State)
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“(Traficant) was a little bizarre”

Yeah, he got a little goofy . . . I guess having a cellmate and no hair kinda’ got to him. He hasn’t changed since before he was imprisoned.

But considering Hillary and Bill Clinton’s numerous felonies committed in their 8 years with not a whit of indictments, trials, or imprisonment, then this guy was a sacrificial, railroaded democrat . . . quite small potatoes.


13 posted on 10/12/2009 5:47:45 PM PDT by laweeks
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Metzenbaum was smart enough to die outside of Ohio for tax purposes.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120977070730464005.html


14 posted on 10/12/2009 5:51:36 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: laweeks

My latest interaction with one was today on my facebook. I posted the SNL skit about Obama getting the nobel peace prize and made a comment that I think the whole think is absurd. That it’s the Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marines that has ensured our peace. One thing lead to another and it ended up being about the war and this POS posted “the majority of voters in 2008 voted to get rid of a murderous regime”. I deleted him but only after ripping into him pretty good on there. Someone like that I have no tolerance for and I had to idea what a POS he was. Serves me right for not only accepting people on there I know really well, rather than once someone I knew from work. He brought up “tortures” that lead to deaths. I’m at the point of loathing people like him with every fiber of my being and I don’t want to be like that.


15 posted on 10/12/2009 5:56:45 PM PDT by Patriot4ever
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To: WayneM
Around 12 years ago I was brand new to the internet. On an AOL message board I was in one of my first online debates with a leftist liberal. I cant recall what we debated on, but sometime during the conversation he claimed that the President voted on legislation and the Congress signed legislation into law. I corrected him, pointing out that it was congress that voted on legislation and the President signed (or vetoed) legislation. He called me an idiot and said that I didnt know what I was talking about.

I couldnt believe that someone could be this dumb and for a minute there I thought I was debating politics with a 10 year old. I looked up his AOL member profile and was stunned to find that he was 52 years old.

16 posted on 10/12/2009 6:00:01 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: TigersEye

Micheal Moore, like most far left liberals, doesn’t know (a cow pie) from Shinola. One of his fellow travelers, Mike Malloy, was one time on a rant that Hayek and von Mises designed the Nazi economy. The dirtbag never read The Road to Sertdom.


17 posted on 10/12/2009 6:11:50 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: WayneM

Not quite. It’s more likely that there is some good in Charles Manson, somewhere deep down, than that there is any good at all in the former junior US Senator from Illinois Barack Hussein Obama.


18 posted on 10/12/2009 6:30:56 PM PDT by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: laweeks
"some lady"

It would be interesting to find out how many truthers watched that documentary about 9/11 on cable a few weeks ago. The doc totally destroyed all the truther conjectures and arguments concerning 9/11. But I'd bet most of them would be like the professional truthers who watched their pet theories being demolished and refused to give in.

19 posted on 10/12/2009 6:54:52 PM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: TigersEye
"Moore"

After watching Moore being interviewed on a number of occasions and reading a bit of one of his books, I realize Moore tries to turn all these interviews into some kind of circus. It is literally impossible to conduct a rational interview with this clown. When asked about all the millions he's made, he replies "where is it", as if that's some sort of a legitimate answer. He's worth about fifty million bucks but can't admit he made it in a capitalist system. No better evidence of being a liar and a scoundrel.

20 posted on 10/12/2009 6:58:35 PM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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