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Theoretical upper limit of price for unlocked iPhone?

Posted on 11/29/2009 2:33:35 PM PST by rudy45

I am looking for an iPhone that I can later unlock and use with other carriers and plans. Let's take, for example, iPhone 3GS, 32 GB.

Am I missing something in my analysis? Apple sells this 3GS for $299, provided you commit to a two year plan. If you cancel before that time, you pay a fee of $175.

I have looked on the internet and see unlocking software for as little as $30.

Given these facts, why then would anyone want to pay more than $299+$175+$30=$505 for an unlocked iPhone 3GS? I see prices of $600 and above on eBay. Do these prices make sense? Isn't less to simply "buy" the phone from ATT, take the cancellation fee penalty and unlock the phone onesself?

What is anyone's experience with using unlocking software? What do you recommend? Thanks.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; att; iphone

1 posted on 11/29/2009 2:33:37 PM PST by rudy45
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If you want fast data service in the USA then there is zero point in unlocking the iPhone. T-Mobile, the only other GSM-based provided in the USA, uses different frequency bands for its data than AT&T, so the best you will be able to do with data on an unlocked iPhone, presumably with T-Mobile, is EDGE data.


2 posted on 11/29/2009 2:35:44 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Hi, do I understand you correctly? I am hearing from that if I unlock the iPhone and then switch to T-Mobile, I will have voice service and data service. However, the data service will be slower than I would get had I stayed with ATT? thanks.


3 posted on 11/29/2009 2:39:26 PM PST by rudy45
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why then would anyone want to pay more than $299+$175+$30=$505 for an unlocked iPhone 3GS?

Demand. To someone selling an unlocked iPhone, you are listing out their wholesale cost. Of course, they will want to make a profit. On top of that, there seems to be a market for these and as there aren't a lot available, expect a fair cost to be about 25% to 50% more than that. I have an unlocked first generation I use as an iPod from back when Apple sold them refurbished in their store. If they ever pick that practice up, expect the prices to drop drastically.

4 posted on 11/29/2009 2:43:46 PM PST by mnehring
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It would appear that a Nissan Z car would be the upper limit.

http://www.cultofmac.com/trade-kevin-poulsens-classic-datsun-z-car-for-an-unlocked-iphone/1156


5 posted on 11/29/2009 2:45:21 PM PST by RangerM (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost.)
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If you are totally committed to the iPhone, then pursue the iPhone.
However, if you are considering reasonable alternatives, there is the Motorola Droid from Verizon at this URL .


I do not work for any phone company or for Motorola.

6 posted on 11/29/2009 2:48:19 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: rudy45
Hi, do I understand you correctly? I am hearing from that if I unlock the iPhone and then switch to T-Mobile, I will have voice service and data service. However, the data service will be slower than I would get had I stayed with ATT? thanks.

That is correct. AT&T's 3G service operates in the 2100MHz range and T-Mobile's 3G service in the USA operates in the 1700MHz range. The 3G radio in the iPhone is incapable of working in the 1700MHz range.

However, both AT&T and T-Mobile use the same frequencies for EDGE and you should be able to get by with EDGE service from T-Mobile as a result.

7 posted on 11/29/2009 2:51:44 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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I’m so glad you posted this. I’ve been contemplating this very same thing. I’d like to get an iPhone, but the service for AT&T is so horrific, I’m hesitant. I don’t know much about this “unlocked” option, so I’m eager to read what’s posted.


8 posted on 11/29/2009 2:58:57 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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Google “jail break” iphone for free software to ‘unlock’ an iphone.... there appears to be some vulnerability to viruses on jailbreak phones, although it is regional and minimal...


9 posted on 11/29/2009 3:06:31 PM PST by kickme (...at the window watching...waiting for my NUKalert to start chirpin'....)
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To: OldDeckHand

Funny that your AT&T service is so horrific. In the DFW, Tx. area and out in W. Texas, I couldn’t get Verizon to work worth a darn despite Consumer Reports saying that Verizon worked well here. I switched back to AT&T and my service in the metro area and out in the boonies improved dramatically. Go figure.


10 posted on 11/29/2009 3:19:34 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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"Funny that your AT&T service is so horrific."

Yep, Central Ohio has been horrible for us. We couldn't get a signal unless we stood right next to the window of our home. We switched to T-Mobile, and we couldn't be happier.

11 posted on 11/29/2009 3:30:37 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: rudy45

If you get a mywifi from Verizon, skype for the iphone, you can use the iPhone on the verizon network with skype for about 60 bucks a month plus the skype fees. You will get better coverage on the Verizon network as the iPhone has completely killed the AT&T cell network. Not sure if the Droid will have the same affect on Verizon, but don’t be surprised.


12 posted on 11/29/2009 3:35:22 PM PST by appeal2 (Government is not the solution, it is the problem and eventually the enemy.)
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To: rudy45

I heard that if you have an iphone like that, it might turn into a brick when apple sends out another update.


13 posted on 11/29/2009 3:38:26 PM PST by ReagansShinyHair
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Thanks for the post rudy ... I too am thinking of a move to the iPhone, but ATT doesn't allow 'Tethering' at this point. I guess they're still fighting w/ Apple over pennies.

I want internet access for my laptop. I understand an iPhone 'jailbrkn' will work on other carriers.

Anybody have experience with this?

14 posted on 11/29/2009 3:42:28 PM PST by CIBvet (Thanks to all who sat in their lawn-chairs to prove we can protect the U.S Border .... REAL Patriots)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

true if you update with the new Apple software....


15 posted on 11/29/2009 4:08:17 PM PST by kickme (...at the window watching...waiting for my NUKalert to start chirpin'....)
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To: appeal2

Thanks, but I thought iPhone, being GSM, is incompatible with Verizon and its CDMA network?


16 posted on 11/29/2009 4:23:30 PM PST by rudy45
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Why not just get a MyTouch, or a G1? Why are you so set on the iPhone?


17 posted on 11/30/2009 5:19:50 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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In that scenario the myfi would be speaking CDMA and the iphone speaking wifi.


18 posted on 11/30/2009 5:25:24 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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