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To: Leo Farnsworth; Spaulding; WorkingClassFilth; Gator113

Toyota has not been honest about this. It’s not a “sticky gas pedal”. It’s a combination of a bad thrust bearing on the throttle spindle (maybe in 100 cars) and a software glitch (in 1000’s of cars), the carpet was only a diversion.

A sticky pedal cannot not and does not make a car suddenly accelerate as it goes down the road with the cruise on. It’s software.

Toyota does make a good car, you’ll get no argument from me on that. However, we caught up and reached quality parity with them in the late 90’s and early 00’s. If you had access to the industry Warranty Failure Rates, as I do, you’d know that, and you’d know that all of the majors are within a percent or so from each other in warrant claims.

So many people take the JD Power award as though it means the car is actually better. Factually, the award you see on tv is based on owner’s claims, and on new car initial reported quality from owners.

Here’s Toyota’s awards...

#1 Nameplate in Customer Satisfaction
Highest Ranked Entry Midsize Car in Initial Quality
Highest Ranked Pickup Extended Cab in Initial Quality

Oops! Did they forget to mention the award is for their Asian models sold in Thailand?


Toyota Award Information
2009 Thailand Customer Service Index Study - 7/9/2009

#1 Nameplate in Customer Satisfaction

Toyota received the highest numerical score among auto manufacturers in the proprietary J.D. Power Asia Pacific 2008-2009 Thailand Customer Satisfaction Index (CSI) StudySM.


Toyota Award Information
2009 Thailand Initial Quality Study - 11/26/2009

Highest Ranked Entry Midsize Car in Initial Quality

The Toyota Yaris was the highest ranked Entry Midsize Car in the proprietary J.D. Power Asia Pacific 2009 Thailand Initial Quality Study (IQS)SM. Study based on 3,460 new-vehicle owners of 58 models representing 11 different makes who purchased their vehicles between October 2008 and July 2009. Proprietary study results are based on experiences and perceptions of owners surveyed in April-September 2009.


Toyota Award Information
2010 Thailand Initial Quality Study - 11/26/2010

Highest Ranked Pickup Extended Cab in Initial Quality

The Toyota Hilux Vigo Prerunner Smart Cab was the highest ranked Extended Cab Pickup in the proprietary J.D. Power Asia Pacific 2009 Thailand Initial Quality Study (IQS)SM. Study based on 3,460 new-vehicle owners of 58 models representing 11 different makes who purchased their vehicles between October 2008 and July 2009. Proprietary study results are based on experiences and perceptions of owners surveyed in April-September 2009. Your experiences may vary. Visit www.jdpower.com/corporate.

Once again I’ll say, Toyota makes a very good product. I’ve owned Toyotas, probably will again. I like them. BUT, they were not honest about this situation, just like they aren’t honest about their awards that they a gazillion bucks to advertise.

BTW, Hyundai is not unionized, either. My wife is on her 4th Hyundai with over 100k on it, and never had a problem.

Now, Leo, who’s acting like a Dem now? You are the one falling for the hype, not me.

Here’s Toyota’s honesty:

November 06, 2009 by Irv Miller
Unintended Acceleration: Toyota Addresses the Issues
Recently, there has been some controversy regarding a safety recall that Toyota is undertaking. We want to take this opportunity to set the record straight with a chronology of the events of the past week.

On Friday, October 30, we began sending letters to Toyota owners and Lexus owners about a defect related to motor vehicle safety that exists on certain models.

.....The defect is the potential for an unsecured or incompatible driver’s floor mat to interfere with the accelerator pedal and cause it to get stuck in the wide open position......

As an interim precaution, we asked owners to take out any removable driver’s floor mat and not replace it with any other floor mat until a vehicle-based remedy can be developed and implemented on their vehicle. When such a remedy is determined, owners will be notified.

So, Leo, who is acting like a Dem now? Toyota has had this problem since, at least, 2004.

It was reported here:
http://www.autosafety.org/again-nhtsa-probes-sudden-acceleration

and here:
http://kansascity.injuryboard.com/automobile-accidents/toyota-denied-customer-complaints-on-sudden-acceleration-problem-for-more-than-5-years.aspx?googleid=274028

and here:
http://www.necn.com/02/03/10/Government-considering-civil-penalties-a/landing.html?blockID=174560&feedID=4215,
and I could go on and on.

And, contrary to Toyota’s claims, it does affect Lexus, Prius, Scion, and some Toyota derivatives.

So, for now, we’ll stick to our Ford truck and our Hyundai car, thank you very much.

Again, I like Toyotas!!!


15 posted on 02/03/2010 5:50:21 PM PST by papasmurf (sudo apt-get install U-S-Constitution)
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To: papasmurf

I’ll bet some of your best friends are negroes.


17 posted on 02/03/2010 6:55:35 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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