[Viking2002]

I had a Texas black muscadine arbor going in my yard for about ten years. The wife finally got tired of it due to it's location and made me take it out. I can tell you this: all it takes is one cutting, or a couple of viable seeds, because once those vines take firm root, they'll be all over the farm. Birds can carry the seeds for miles in their digestive tracts. And unharvested grapes will spread seeds everywhere. I plan on restarting a new arbor (correctly, this time), and I won't need to visit a nursery for new stock. I'll just go dig a couple out of the hedges. LOL

[mamelukesabre]

Unless there’s some kind of die off.

When I was a kid, my parents had two huge grape vines that I took care of from the time they were just two little twigs. They outgrew their arbor and grew up a nearby telephone pole, across the wire, to the house, and down the side of the house.

Then one year long after I left home, they just didn’t leaf out. Spring came. Summer came. Nothing. Just dead wood.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

And to think my customers have all kinds of trouble with their grapes up here. Between not pruning them properly (VERY important) to not feeding them, to the Japanese Beetle attacks - it’s a wonder anyone gets ANY grapes, LOL!

I’m off to the trenches! :)