Is Anything Short of Deportation Still Amnesty?

April 28, 2010 | mukraker

[rabscuttle385]

Would anything short of deportation of illegal immigrants still be considered amnesty?

Yes.

[the invisib1e hand]

Homeboy, how dare you ask people to reflect on this (or any other, but especially this) issue. You’d better stock up on flame suits.

[US Navy Vet]

Yes!

[afnamvet]

See U.S. Code TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part VIII > § 1324

[pennboricua]

Follow Arizona as an example, they are self deporting to another state and back to their country.

[screaminsunshine]

RINOS will cave as usual.

[cripplecreek]

Realistically and logistically, how are we going to deport 12+ million illegal aliens? What can actually be done?

When we did it before, more than half left on their own. We should do everything possible to encourage them to leave. Stop hiring them stopping giving them welfare are a couple of good encouragements.

[GeronL]

No welfare, no free housing, no free healthcare, no free education, no illegal jobs. Go back to Mexico and apply for legal residency here.

Then we can at least have something to discuss.

[Travis McGee]

No way. The next admin would find this to be against human rights, and they’d get the rest.

Deport, deport, deport.

Deport some, the rest will leave, if they think they’ll lose their property entirely. Better to sell assets and leave, than to be deported and lose their assets.

[Venturer]

Eisenhower did it——no sweat.

[Travis McGee]

Amen.

[hoosier hick]

Deportation doesn’t even need to be an option. Cut off the money and they leave voluntarily. We see it here all the time when the jobs dry up, and school enrollement drops by 20% or so....

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[Eagles6]

It would show the world that we are not serious about defending our borders and the flood would continue.

The fines would never be paid, welfare rolls, food stamps, hospitals, schools and the criminal justice system would still be swamped, all at cost to taxpayers.

Thousands of Americans would still be assaulted, killed by illegal criminals and drivers with no insurance.

The dems would still get them to vote.

They would still continue to depress wages and take American jobs.

[OldDeckHand]

No, as a practical matter, it's impossible to deport 12 million people. BUT, you can make it MUCH more harder for businesses to hire illegals. You can change the citizenship laws and make citizenship available only jus sanguinis, rather than jus soli - as it is in many if not most of the European countries. And finally, you can deny ALL government social services to anyone who is not in the country with a valid visa or green card.

It's that simple. Over a period of a few years, I think you'd find our illegal problem will all but have completely abated.

[mukraker]

Ya fergot da link

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/usc_sec_08_00001324---a000-.html

This deals with the employment side, but what about the mere being here part of the equasion? What do you do with the kid in school, the honors kid, wjo was brought here illegally when his parents crossed the border with him as a baby? What do you do with the businessman who employs a hundred local residents, but who, himself, is here illegally?

I'm looking for more than knee-jerk reactions.

How exactly do (some of) you propose to deport the millions who are here illegally?

[mgstarr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

[OldDeckHand]

Double-superlative typo - sorry.

[packrat35]

Yes you can deport them all. You just have to have the SPINE to do it. Once it gets started, more will self-deport.

Take away the freebies, jobs, and ill-gotten gains and the rust back to the border will commence. But first you got to get a SPINE!

[mukraker]

I agree. We also need to enforce the laws already on the nbooks.