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EMP could leave '9 out of 10 Americans dead'
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 3, 2010 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 05/04/2010 5:12:37 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: FeliciaCat
My freezer has nail polish and ice cubes in it,

Sorry, but, nail polish???????
401 posted on 05/05/2010 8:18:25 AM PDT by Ellendra (Can't starve us out, and you can't make us run. . . -Hank Jr.)
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To: Ellendra

“There are 2 ways to regulate blood sugar. Through insulin, or through diet. And by diet I don’t mean “eat your broccoli”, I mean by carefully regulating the sugars and carbs your son ate, and timing it so that the amount of sugar going into his bloodstream stayed as level as possible.”

This is true only for Type 2 diabetes.
Type 1 diabetics (also called juvenile diabetes) can not produce ANY insulin. No amount of diet manipulation will fix this. Any sugar in the bloodstream cannot be used, the body starts burning it’s own protein producing ketones. Then they die of ketosis, also dehydration because it makes you pee out all the sugars the body can’t burn.


402 posted on 05/05/2010 8:36:35 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (To argue witha person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead)
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To: struggle

“WalMart sells OTC insulin for 10 mL / $22. I’ve been stockpiling.”

Buying it over the counter is no problem. The problem is storage. It is only good for a few months time even in perfect conditions. (and how are you gonna cool it when there is no modern refrigeration)
I have heard of people freezing insulin with acceptable results but of course it’s not recommended.
No matter what, if you are a Type 1 diabetic and dependent on insulin you will die!


403 posted on 05/05/2010 8:41:05 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (To argue witha person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; Hot Tabasco

There’s a book called “Where There Is No Doctor” that both of you might find useful.


404 posted on 05/05/2010 9:10:11 AM PDT by Ellendra (Can't starve us out, and you can't make us run. . . -Hank Jr.)
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To: vanilla swirl

I might have to research that problem and get back to you.


405 posted on 05/05/2010 9:16:42 AM PDT by Ellendra (Can't starve us out, and you can't make us run. . . -Hank Jr.)
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To: Ellendra

I have Werner’s original and his one for Africa.


406 posted on 05/05/2010 9:31:47 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Eaker

Later.


407 posted on 05/05/2010 10:05:31 AM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Ellendra

keeps it fresh.


408 posted on 05/05/2010 10:31:56 AM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: vanilla swirl

Yeah, I’ve already accepted my inevitable demise in the case of a huge meltdown.

The best way to store would be to dig a deep hole in the ground.

Insulin lasts for years, whether the pharmalogical company says so or not. I received @30 vials from America when I was living in Japan and used some a year after expiration. It worked as well as the new stuff. And yes, I did use a blood tester to confirm this.

Another issue is that carbs will be cut dramatically, while physical exertion will increase dramatically. I’m sure more type ones will die of hypoglycemia than hyperglycemia.


409 posted on 05/05/2010 11:17:44 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: struggle

“Insulin lasts for years, whether the pharmalogical company says so or not. I received @30 vials from America when I was living in Japan and used some a year after expiration. It worked as well as the new stuff. And yes, I did use a blood tester to confirm this.”

Interesting tip there, was it refrigerated?
What type of insulin was it?
I’ve also heard of freezing (which manufacturers don’t recommend).
I suppose, if possible freeze a years supply then when the refrigeration ends keep in a “spring house” like milk was kept in back a century ago. Hopefully after a years time we would be receiving help from overseas.
Gotta think about these things!
Whether by EMP or not I’m fairly convinced of the fragility of the system which provides our civilization.
DON’T just throw in the towel and give up. We can brainstorm this problem!

Also another thought for diabetics (and anybody else who depends on man-made drugs or health care);
Move as close to a coastal city as you can stand, they will be the first to be resupplied from overseas. The southern states will be most difficult for the elderly to survive the heat, obviously the northern states will be VERY cold and have shorter growing seasons.


410 posted on 05/05/2010 2:29:10 PM PDT by vanilla swirl (To argue witha person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead)
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To: vanilla swirl

IT was the regular Novalin N and R. I wouldn’t freeze it. Either way, food will be scare and physical exertion necessary - the small amount of active insulin will make up the slack.

The problem will be hypoglycemia. No carbs, no sweets, and you’ve been working your butt off the last 2 hours with no rest - and you go into hypoglycemic convulsions. This is the biggest problem.


411 posted on 05/05/2010 4:56:31 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: snoringbear

So now people know where to go to get food.


412 posted on 05/05/2010 6:01:42 PM PDT by GregB (Put land mines on the border with mexico!!!)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Oooh - I’ll have to check those out.


413 posted on 05/05/2010 6:25:50 PM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me, a sinner)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The risk of even 2% casualties due to EMP is as exaggerated as claiming the recent oil spill in the Gulf will endanger all Polar Bears and giraffes.

The most likely risk is political and dealing with a handful of lunatic fringe insisting upon calamity, then reacting irrationally using the EMP as justification for their lack of responsible behavior.


414 posted on 05/05/2010 6:50:25 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: sneakers

Bump for when I find time to read all the comments!


415 posted on 05/05/2010 7:57:44 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: NavyCanDo
I really never gave EMP much thought until reading ONE SECOND AFTER, by William R. Forstchen.
It is a chilling book. Written as a fiction novel, it does ecapsulate very well what it would be like in the months following. Newt Ginrich writes the forward in the book, and he is also seen on the link talking about the book, and it’s warning to us all.
http://www.onesecondafter.com/

I heard Forstchen interviewed on the radio. Will definitely get the book asap. He said 90%, too. (He's probably Farah's source for that figure.)

416 posted on 05/05/2010 8:46:07 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: Dajjal

I downloaded and read the book on my beloved ipod, yesterday. This thread and the book gave me vivid nightmares. LOL


417 posted on 05/06/2010 11:16:24 AM PDT by publana (Time to go Galt.)
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To: metmom

I think the 90% figure is a bit high, but they do have a point that something that disruptive would result in a lot of deaths.<<<

I think you are correct.

Add in the fact that it will take out all the gas station’s pumps and all cash registers.

Remember when New York had the electric shortage?

The residents were sleeping on the streets and sidewalks, for they could not open their doors with the fancy electronic locks.


418 posted on 05/06/2010 4:57:29 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( garden/survival/cooking/storage- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2299939/posts?page=5555)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In “One Second After” 90% of the US population died


419 posted on 05/06/2010 5:11:07 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Martyr: Arabic word for "lousy fighter")
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To: dfwgator

“Connections”. James Burke. I hadn’t thought of it in years, one of the best shows ever.


420 posted on 05/06/2010 5:14:13 PM PDT by Pelham (Obamacare, the new Final Solution.)
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