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To: raymcc; LucyT; Fred Nerks; rxsid; ExTexasRedhead; 2ndDivisionVet; butterdezillion

Tim Adams is a Fraud!

He is a mouthpiece of the Left, and all you need to do is read what he says to know it.

This is yet another ruse intended to steer us away from the real issue.

He said that he will testify in court that Obama was not born in Hawaii.

"I was told at the time there is no long-form birth record, which would have been the case if President Obama was born in [a] hospital in Honolulu."

Duh! Of course he would say this in court knowing, full well, that it is HEARSAY EVIDENCE and would promptly be thrown out of court.

His other statements are also unsupported and basically, nonsequiturs:

"[Obama] does have a [Certification] of Live Birth, which is given to children of families who are residents of Hawaii when children are born outside the state. So, I assert that he was born outside of Hawaii. Now, we can't tell you where he was born. Some of his family members said that he had been born while his mother was on a trip overseas. "

First of all, Obama does not have a Certification of Live Birth, and that alone outs Adams as an Obamaton. Secondly, COLBs were given to everyone - not just to "children of resident families born outside of Hawaii." Thousands of children were home-birthed - including the children of immigrants (many illegally brought there) working the sugar and pineapple plantations of Hawaii, aka SLAVE LABOR.

BTW, how is it that the Preesident and his libtards never talk about the Chinese, Japanese, and Filipino slaves brought to Hawaii? You know, the people who were still slaves LONG AFTER the Emancipation Proclamation?

Or, do Obama and Holder think that "Coolie" was a term of endearment?

("For someone who says he was born in Hawaii, he sure does not act like one." - the only quote about Obama's birthplace made by Linda Lingle, Governor of Hawaii, prior to December 2008.)

Adams continues:

"When I mentioned this, it got people's attention. They also did not like my conclusions that since President Obama does have a [Certification] of Live Birth from the state of Hawaii, that he was born a U.S. citizen. "

So, let me get this straight: Adams says (a) Obama was not born in Hawaii, yet (b) because he has a COLB that says he was born in Hawaii, then (c) he was born a U.S. citizen?

What kind of convoluted logic is that? Answer: liberal logic. Adams has a lot of trouble putting two thoughts together and coming up with a coherent statement. Par for the course.

"And during the initial part of the campaign, when questions about his eligibility to be president came up – including Senator McCain because he was born in Panama – that both these men were vetted by the same process as any other presidential candidate."

McCain and Obama were NOT vetted like any other Presidential candidate in history. Obama was not even vetted like McCain: there was no Senate resolution passed for Obama like there was for McCain. Aside from the resolution not conferring natural-born stratus on McCain, it did prove that the consensus of opinion among all Senators was that a child born to two US citzens on a US Navel Base serving their country overseas SHOULD not be excluded from running for President.

Now, compare McCain's eligibility claim to Obama's.

If what Adams says is true, then Obama is a foreign-born President with a British citizen Father and a Mother unable to automatically pass along her US citizenship to him.

In other words, Obama was not a natural-born citizen or even a native-born citizen. Clearly, Adams is clueless about the Constitution and the laws regarding citizenship

Obama has provided NO proof of where he was born. Obama could have been born in Iran, Afghanistan, or North Korea, for all we know, yet the fact remains that he has continually refused to provide any concrete proof of his birth ANYWHERE.

It means, Mr. Adams, that Obama has not met the Article II requirements of the Constitution and may not be a citizen of any variety.

"So, while we may not agree, some people say that because of Article 2 of the Constitution, President Obama was not eligible to be president. That's not a question that we can answer."

Who's "We?" Sixty million people are "Some people?" Answering the question of "Who is Barack Obama?" is the most important question in history that we MUST answer. Otherwise, we will have a flood of Manchurian candidates seeking the presidency who were born in hostile countries with no allegiance to America.

"The people who are in charge of saying who is eligible to run for president have already vouched that he was indeed an eligible candidate. If we disagree with that, we don't need to go after the man. We need to look at the process by which candidates are vetted for public office."

Total baloney! We disagree with the fact that no vetting was done at all. There is a laundry list of bonafides that Obama has refused to disclose. No, Mr. Adams, we need to go after the man who lied about everything having to do with his biography, and who has also passed off forged government documents to hide keep it hidden.

"A facsimile of it [COLB] has been put online," said Adams.

Of course, he would say this bald-faced lie.

"In my professional opinion, he definitely was not born in Hawaii. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he was not born in Hawaii because there is no legal record of him being born there. If someone called and asked about it, I could not tell them that person was born in the state."

What "professional opinion?" The only "profession" he is in is being a student. He has no proof to back up what he claims, and he is so not an expert on birth certificates or any other vital records that Obama has.

The question that should have been put to him was, "Do you know what is contained in Obama's birth record?"

His answer would have been, "What is on the Certification of Live Birth."

We are not amused.

44 posted on 06/21/2010 11:29:19 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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Tim Adams is a Fraud!

He is a mouthpiece of the Left, and all you need to do is read what he says to know it.

This is yet another ruse intended to steer us away from the real issue.

He said that he will testify in court that Obama was not born in Hawaii. "I was told at the time there is no long-form birth record, which would have been the case if President Obama was born in [a] hospital in Honolulu."

Duh! Of course he would say this in court knowing, full well, that it is HEARSAY EVIDENCE and would promptly be thrown out of court.

His other statements are also unsupported and basically, nonsequiturs:

More at Post # 44.

[Thanks, Polarik.]

47 posted on 06/21/2010 12:35:31 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Polarik
He is a mixed up and confused liberal. I like to see what he knows and does not know where he should write a detailed affidavit, then it can be determined if everything he knows is hearsay or not.

Hearsay evidence is not always worthless.

Grand Jury - Hearsay Evidence Admissible?

48 posted on 06/21/2010 1:00:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Polarik; LucyT
"I was told at the time there is no long-form birth record, which would have been the case if President Obama was born in [a] hospital in Honolulu."

IIRC, in his initial statement, he said his superiors told him this as well as it was common knowledge amongst all involved...has anyone asked him to come up with some names?

Maybe someone would be brave enough to corroborate his statements?

Just askin, maybe this has been addressed but if it has I missed it.

49 posted on 06/21/2010 1:05:12 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Polarik
I am not so quick to condemn the guy. It may be he got a lot of heat after his first interview and someone explained misprision of a felony and asked him why he didn't report it sooner if he knew Obie was not born in Hawaii..his convoluted not born there but still a US citizen gives him an out for not reporting it...

True what he says is hearsay that his bosses called the hospitals, but it does give rise to suspicion sufficient with everything else to start an investigation and ask his bosses and ask the hospitals. Will that be done? Who knows maybe the amount of evidence slowly snowballing along with Obies falling popularity may cause some honest govt official to investigate before the damn breaks. This may just be enough reason for the Hawaii AG along with DOH lies to decide he better investigate or go down in history as one who allowed this to continue.

What can Hawaii say about Adams comments? Deny it? Where is the press asking the Governor about this and her Kapiolani hospital misstatement? They are absent but sooner or later the questions will be asked just like the one Gibbs ignored about Obies Connecticut issued Social Security Card. That question needs to be re asked until answered and not allowed to be avoided again.

It's time to pressure those in positions to get to the bottom of this. While Adams may not have enough info to open everything up, it is another crack in the open secret of the century. Each little bit helps bust the damn holding this thing back. I would not be condemning those who step forward with whatever they know, we need their help. Publicity is good and I see no harm done by this fellow.

56 posted on 06/22/2010 11:56:27 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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