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To: Quix
It is interesting to see in this Press Club conference on UFO's how the human capacity for denial of frightening or inconvenient facts completely overwhelms good judgment...even when the security of the nation is (or may be) at risk.

This capacity for denial was brought home to me just this week, when, doing research for a work of fiction obliquely involving the subject of nephilim and fallen angels, I was reminded how Orthodox Jewish scholars and many Christian theologians all the way back to St. Augustine and John Chrysostom teach (against Scripture) that the giants were human (sons of Seth) and not hybrids.

Jewish Orthodox Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai (Israel 70 BC) went to far as pronounce a curse on anyone teaching the fallen angel idea. Rashi (Rabbi Shlomo Yitzhaki - 1040-1105) and Nachmanides (Rabbi Moses ben Nachman Girondi, 1194 – 1270 ) both went along with this premise (not sure about what they think of the curse).

I don't think I have time at present, but I am curious to find out how Nachmanides incorporates I Enoch into his thinking and life's work. If a person accepts I Enoch as part of God's word, that person cannot deny the Nephilim/Fallen Angel position. The fact that I Enoch was part of the Dead Sea Scrolls must have thrown present day "Sons of Seth" adherents for a loop.;-)

As an aside, I have been reading Onkelos on the Torah: Understanding the Bible Text: Genesis by Israel Drazin, Stanley M. Wagner to help in my research...very interesting book for understanding what the Bible and Biblical scholars say about the report of the spies sent out by Moses when the Promised Land was reached (the spies who reported that they encountered giants, "Sons of Anak")!

150 posted on 09/28/2010 11:13:10 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Is Obama the Twelfth Imam? Farrakhan thinks he is!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies; Alamo-Girl

INDEED.

If you haven’t watched the DVD’s available from Guy Malone’s site at

HTTP://WWW.ANCIENTOFDAYS.NET

I think you need to for your research. Might save you a lot of digging. They’ve done it extensively.

And our own Alamo-Girl; is somewhat of an expert on Enoch


151 posted on 09/28/2010 11:55:54 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: SonOfDarkSkies; Quix
you might be interested in reading about the huge archaic people of Ohio that settlers found in graves there. Interestingly enough, the area that makes up the Appalachia area shares common flora found in a very distinct part of China, suggesting that at one point, the areas were linked before the continents broke up. The archaic people were said to have black hair and slanted eyes. Also interesting, there is modern day research ongoing on the Sasquatch and being dismissed because human dna is only ever found, not animal. Is Sasquatch the remnants of these archaic people, maybe.

Also there is so much satellite technology now, that to just dismiss strange things in the night sky as nonsense is certainly close minded. Here in Oregon, we have objects that just hang in the sky-- surveillance drones for drug operations I'm sure. Then there are holograms, and Haarp doing God knows what

I saw blacked out drones flying around Sacramento at night. they've been doing this stuff for years-- they experiment locally before the technology is used in warfare

520 posted on 10/01/2010 10:48:43 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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