California Conservatives;Are You Planning On Moving Out Thanks To Boxer And Brown?

[JohnThune2012]

What better way to get even with Boxer & Brown than to threaten to leave the State! How many of you were contemplating leaving California should the Libs stay in office? Any resident in Cally with a comfortable savings account may want to head east knowing Boxer will find a way to tax half of your fortune! If you live in California,are you planning to leave "As Soon As Humanly Possible"?

[grateful]

I moved to CA in 1985. The year prior to that, Ronald Reagan won re-election carrying Los Angeles County by a whopping 250,000 votes. Can you believe that? Talk about radical change.

I refer to those as "the good ol' days". *sigh*

[Pox]

If you can find me another job, I’ll consider it.

[Persevero]

We are tied here with irreplaceable jobs, an extreme health condition, and 13 out of 13 immediate family living here or two minutes across the border.

So no, we are in it for the long haul.

[Gen. Burkhalter]

CA really was the Golden State back then. Lots of jobs, lots of opportunity, creative people. rising home values, economic growth-—and I remember oil wells all over the place in Long Beach and the city’s coffers were overflowing with oil revenues. It really was boom state with all of the aerospace industry we used to have.

I wouldn’t be surprised in a decade or two if most of our tanks, missiles, and battleships are manufactured in China.

[Ancient Drive]

I ain’t no Baldwin. I am not. I will fight for my beloved CA until the end.

[Crimson Elephant]

I have a dumb question to those in California. Would the old talk about splitting California into Northern Cali and Southern Cali make a difference in the voting? Isn’t SoCal a little bit more moderate than NoCal (Bay Area) or am I crazy?

I guess it would take investigation of a county by county voting map.

I know that has zero chance of actually happening.

[anonsquared]

A while back there was a California Proposition to divide the state into two states. The idiots who wrote the Prop screwed up by dividing the state North/South instead of East/West and it was defeated.

A quick check of the 2010 Midterm Map shows that if the eastern half of the state were an independent state, it would have sent TWO conservative Senators to the Senate yesterday.

The rest of the country needs to watch what happens when government workers have control of the purse strings. It was California government workers who elected Brown, reelected Boxer, and loaded the state government apparatus with Dems.

What the idiot government workers failed to get is that now that the US House has gone conservative, there will be no bailout of California with its high SEIU paychecks and Cadillac government worker pensions. Add the fact that the Dems in the state government won't have the billion dollars in Prop 19 taxes they were hoping to get to keep from cutting heads in government jobs and things will get interesting from here.

Brown and the Dems will now try to overturn Prop 13 which limits property taxes. Will the Dems be willing to risk news stories of people losing the home they have lived in for years and being made homeless just to pay off the government union thugs who keep them in office?

[Maverick68]

Anyone who owns a business in California had better sell it or burn it, cuz’ the “walkers” are coming for you.
Eventually, there will be no producers left to tax and the zombies will be forced to turn to caniballism....

[Tweeker]

Florida is looking good - ‘specially Palm Beach area & the Honorable Allen West

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

It will become so bad in California that people will have to leave and those who cannot shall have to revolt.

[Ancient Drive]

touche... how long before we recall Brown? any betts?

[Truthsearcher]

Already did, although I did vote absentee there for one last time. I am glad I’m in Texas now.

[Vigilanteman]

Take a look at this link and see how little of California was actually won by Babs. Moonbats could take the thin strip of coastal counties from the Oregon border south to LA and create their own ultraliberal cesspool. The rest of California could either be split between Nevada and Arizona or form their own state.

The rest of America may have to make similar choices sooner or later as well!

[CaliforniaCon]

RE: “I moved to CA in 1985. The year prior to that, Ronald Reagan won re-election carrying Los Angeles County by a whopping 250,000 votes. Can you believe that? Talk about radical change.”

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As a child I was brought to CA in 1953! Been here ever since; not likely going anywhere. I’ve been all over the country and world and am always happy to return to CA.

By the late seventies the state was already going to hell in a handbasket in numerous ways. You think ‘85 was good? LOL — Reagan’s win was an aberration - a blip on the radar — it was really great but not typical of CA.

Many of us old timers will stay and fight, deal with it, enjoy the weather and our families here and, if older like me, try to earn/spend very little. I doubt I could live much more cheaply anywhere else given my circumstances.

If I had a business or young family here, sure, I’d probably consider leaving. But that is not the case.

If there is going to be an uprising against Brown, et al, I’m all IN! But I’m not leaving CA for some neighboring state that is taking in so many disenchanted Californians like AZ, OR and NV. A lot of the disenchanted ones are NOT conservatives, you know.

[jennychase]

We will enjoy free dole paid by rest of USA.

[Fred]

Prop 25 is the disaster. It removes the 2/3 vote to raises taxes.

PROP 13 is next, prop 25 has partially damaged it...

get ready for skyrocketing property taxes.

[Fiji Hill]

Outside my window, I see sunshine and blue skies, and the temperature is predicted to rise to 96. When I turn on the news, I see people in other parts of the country bundled up as wintry weather approaches.

So why move? Besides, where else in America can one find a decent burrito?

[Tar and Feathers]

It’s not about getting even, it’s about survival. I sort of feel like I’m in the middle of the Irish Potato Famine. The longer I wait, the more desperate my situation will be.

As far as I’m concerned, Cal voters performed a hat trick last night: Brown, Boxer, and Prop 25. We’re broke, out of work, and the Cal govt. will continue to feed off its most productive citizens. California has become a state-run fiefdom run by liberal politicians, govt. employees, and supported by those on the govt. dole.

Anyone trying to make a buck in this state is now viewed as an undesirable. I won’t put up with that.

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

Short answer: Yes.

Longer answer:

Boxer is sort of an irrelevancy, though she certainly is an affirmation of flaming electoral stupidity.

Brown is the greater concern: No more nor less stupid than Boxer, but a proven incompetent and liberal feel-good hack. Nothing good there.

To me, on CDD (CA demise day) +1, the propositions that passed are far, far more ominously impactful:

There is every likelihood that prop 13 (our annual prop tax bump limitation) is back on the table (for revocation) probably for biz property first, closely followed by residential. This should be good for a 3-5% instant hit to RE values with plenty more to follow. Prop 13 didn’t pass or not pass this election cycle, but CA elected and ratified a clear set of enemies of limited taxation, and this is their perpetual sardine.

Prop 23 not passing: This allows AB32 to go into effect, the most draconian global warming emissions regulations imaginable. It will be essentially impossible to operate any business that handles hard goods of any kind.

Prop 25: Now that liberals have reaffirmed their stranglehold on the CA legislature, taxation is sure to go nuclear. This prop permits new taxes to be enacted upon a simple majority vote instead what used to be a 2/3rds requirement. No big crystal ball needed to predict what will result.

Taken in total, this is a powerful and all-enveloping salvo of anti-business artillery that cannot be seen as anything but a multi-front attack on business, plain and simple. Forget Jerry Brown and Babs Boxer, no business operator with functioning brain cells will even consider opening or expanding in CA. It’s effectively been made economically impossible. Thus there will be no job creation, nor will there be any reduction in entitlements, nor will there be any enforcement of illegal immig laws. That means the state is, at least as I see it, on an irretrievable spiral into explicit bankruptcy. Not even Paul Krugman and his PHd can help CA now.

And should the Bush tax cuts sunset, one year from now CA residents and businesses will be looking at a solid 15% bump in the state’s take of taxes and fees on literally everything.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Would the old talk about splitting California into Northern Cali and Southern Cali make a difference in the voting? Isn’t SoCal a little bit more moderate than NoCal (Bay Area) or am I crazy?

The real difference is coastal California vs. the interior. Take out everything within 75 miles of the ocean and you'd have a very red state. Not particularly heavily populated, but very conservative.