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How to reverse the destruction of American jobs: Replace (all) taxes, with one 100% import tariff.
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Posted on 01/02/2011 9:14:39 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network

For far too long, American conservatives have become accustomed to "blaming" the destruction of American jobs (rightfully) on unions and lawyers.

It's all true, but while it's true - America is falling apart.

Blaming those who caused the problem won't prevent the destruction of our great nation.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: americafirst; arsenalofdemocracy; chanellinghugochavez; channelinglincoln; china; dumbidea; economicsuicide; faultylogic; freetrade; greatdepressionredux; jobs; selfdestructive; smoothawley
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; a fool in paradise
Agreed. Tax everything except underwear!


61 posted on 01/02/2011 11:34:27 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Only if it’s imported. :)


62 posted on 01/02/2011 11:35:05 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy was Right.)
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To: Defiant
Sounds like the same thinking that lead to Smoot-Hawley. How’d that work out?

Tell us. When quoting the sources, show us their background & affiliations. No S-H wasn't the reason of or for the great depression but that's what these One World Odor/elites want to show down your minds.

63 posted on 01/02/2011 11:39:09 AM PST by Digger (eace.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
For far too long, American conservatives have become accustomed to "blaming" the destruction of American jobs on unions

There are now more government employee union members than private sector union members in the U.S.

GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE UNIONS

64 posted on 01/02/2011 11:40:01 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

This would drive us at warp speed into to catastrophic disastorous depression. Better idea. 18% fair tax. That’s it. Drop all other taxes. Anything/service you buy, you pay 18% tax. But a fair tax will never happen. We have the present tax system. not by chance, but by design. It’s been put in place by our elected gangsters to control us. To keep us under the yoke. The time of fairness and justice came and went. When these theives learned long ago that they could tax us and raid the national treasury, our right to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness went out the window.


65 posted on 01/02/2011 11:40:05 AM PST by Main Street (Stuck in traffic.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Via one, single, simple across the board - 100% import tariff on everything imported to the United States of America.

Have live in countries that did that. 100% Tariff. For some reason they were always very poor countries.

Even more strange was that when they lowered their tariffs and implemented other reforms their economies began to improve.

66 posted on 01/02/2011 11:42:54 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (When all you have is bolt cutters & vodka everything looks like the lock on Wolf Blitzer's boathouse)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
If we export so much, how is it we are running the largest trade deficit in the history of the world?

Because we import OIL.

$10 a gallon gas. The greenie weenies will be so happy.

67 posted on 01/02/2011 11:45:57 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (When all you have is bolt cutters & vodka everything looks like the lock on Wolf Blitzer's boathouse)
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To: Main Street
We have the present tax system. not by chance, but by design. It’s been put in place by our elected gangsters to control us. To keep us under the yoke.

Yep, and these gangsters in D.C. won't ever change that, or implement term limits or make 3rd parties a viable option. This is our corrupt "Two-Party Cartel" that us taxpayers work for until almost June of each yr.

68 posted on 01/02/2011 11:51:04 AM PST by Digger (eace.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Tax the outsourcing of American jobs. How? I dunno, there must be a way. Is it too late? Prolly!

It’s one thing to import underwear made in Vietnam. It’s another to run your business in the U.S. using labor located in India.


69 posted on 01/02/2011 11:51:25 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: dragnet2

To be fair, I did agree with that opinion. :)

I just don’t support us doing nothing, just because liberals have caused this mess.

Though honestly, “conservative” free traders are just as much to blame. That’s the part which really gets me worked up.

Our own side. Ordinarily quick to understand the importance of geopolitical power. Is for some reason, deaf dumb and blind about communist China.

Imagine if you went to Wal*mart tomorrow, and everything on the shelves said “Made in the Soviet Union”.

That’s (exactly) - in every single way - what is happening.

I think it may be - conservatives have been cowed by a generation of relentless PC indoctrination, into refusing to consider anyone who is not racially white - as an actual strategic threat to America.

I can’t come up with any other explanation.

It’s like group hypnosis.

Russians look like us. So we knew and attributed to them, what we understood. Power.

Chinese are different - so evidently we presume they are not up to the task of challenging us globally.

Trust me. They are... In fact, they are challenging us globally right now.

And we’re doing NOTHING to change any of the trends which are without exception, leading to Chinese ascendancy.

Because we refuse to do anything.

Lest we somehow, upset “free trade”. Can’t have that.


70 posted on 01/02/2011 11:52:11 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy was Right.)
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To: Defiant
"Sounds like the same thinking that lead to Smoot-Hawley. How’d that work out?"

Pretty good. If we had traded our factories to Japan, Germany and China before WW II, we would have lost.

71 posted on 01/02/2011 11:54:33 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No, we don’t “do nothing”.

We need to radically shrink government spending at all levels, and try to rebuild this country the old fashioned way, based on hard work, frugality, and reliance on Almighty God.

How are we going to be “the arsenal of democracy” if we don’t even produce our own underwear or socks? Given that fact, let’s pull in our horns and try to rebuild.

Militarily, we have two allies: the UK (about 60%) and Israel (about 80%). Support them and let everybody else do what they want to do.

Here at home, curtail welfare spending! The other day I was at the store and saw two big fat ladies buying over $ 400 worth of meat — meat, not vegetables, just meat — and paying with an EBT (food stamp) card. They are selling the meat that you and I are paying for! Enough is enough.

Will there be trouble? Sure will, sooner or later. Let’s take the medicine now and rebuild our country.


72 posted on 01/02/2011 11:57:12 AM PST by GadareneDemoniac
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

But they also have a billion people. There are more cell phones than there are total people in America (both legal and illegal) in both China and India. I think you’re comparing apples to oranges here.


73 posted on 01/02/2011 12:22:55 PM PST by TXConservative25
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To: TXConservative25

I’m not unfamiliar with China.

That’s part of the reason, it troubles me we seem so blind.

China is very much, focused. Quite formidable in fact. More than most here, seem ready to consider.

I really don’t get it.


74 posted on 01/02/2011 12:26:30 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy was Right.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’m not saying you are, but there’s no way we will ever have more cell phone users than China; it’s impossible.


75 posted on 01/02/2011 12:31:18 PM PST by TXConservative25
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To: TXConservative25

A distraction perhaps.

How about the fact, your cell phone (as well as your computer, your iPad and everything around you right now) was manufactured there.

In factories, which employ a billion Chinese increasingly, technologically sophisticated skilled workers - who just one generation ago rode around in Mao jackets on bicycles.

While we argue whether or not to start “QE3”! And pontificate about “going Galt”.

Soon as trends continue - we will be the ones on bicycles, while China makes IBM PCs under the name “Lenovo” as well as everything else we buy.

Sending our money. Every dollar eventually. Out of the country.

The degree of denial we are in, is staggering.


76 posted on 01/02/2011 12:37:58 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy was Right.)
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To: cc2k
That's one of the biggest problems with the FairTax. It doesn't help spending.

No tax system is designed to specifically address spending. However The Fair Tax does address the spending problem by eliminating the IRS and its $11 billion/year price tag. The Fair Tax dovetails with the limited government principles in the Tea party for the above reason.
77 posted on 01/02/2011 1:19:15 PM PST by Defend Liberty
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To: Pollster1
I like the idea of a flat tax set by the spending bills passed for that year.

Congress like the idea of a flat income tax when they passed the 16th Amendment in 1913. People were taxed 1% on the first $20,000 of income and 7% on nay income over $500,000. Less than 1% of the population earned more than $500,000. That also means more than 99% paid the 1% tax, making it a flat tax on income. It has evolved over 98 years into the multi tiered, convoluted, increasingly intrusive mess we have today.

The same will happen with another flat income tax only faster thanks to the thousands of lobbyists that didn't exist in 1913. They will create more loopholes and exemptions for their big business clients that has ballooned the federal income tax code to more than 67,500 pages.

The Fair Tax will prevent history from repeating itself by fundamentally shifting power away from the federal government to the people as the latter will decide when and how often they are taxed.
78 posted on 01/02/2011 1:19:22 PM PST by Defend Liberty
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To: TXConservative25

The average Chinese earns about 2400 per year.

Cell phones and TVs are frequently bought at low levels of income throughout the world and neither of those goods is an accurate measure of GDP in the way you think it is.


79 posted on 01/02/2011 1:24:44 PM PST by texmexis best (`)
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To: TXConservative25

Average household income in 2009 was 10,220 in China. Not a great deal.


80 posted on 01/02/2011 2:22:13 PM PST by texmexis best (`)
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