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Does The Original AP Article Have The Words "Kenyan-Born" Within The TEXT Of The Article?
4/28/2011 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 04/28/2011 11:03:34 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

I say the word text because several websites focus on the 2004 AP article originally saying in the headline Illinois' Jack Ryan Drops Senate Bid, and say that the original title to this article does not say "Kenyan-Born." It seems though that the words "kenyan born" were supposedly within the text of the original AP article. Am I wrong here? I post this because I am wondering if the AP is the origin of the BC issue and if the MSM is trying to shield the AP from criticism.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: ap; birthcertificate; kenny0bama; naturalborncitizen; obama

1 posted on 04/28/2011 11:03:38 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

http://classic-web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm


2 posted on 04/28/2011 11:08:04 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
From what I have read hear at FR the original article from AP did not contain "Kenyan-Born" but one paper in the Chicago area or in Illinois used the term when it used the AP article.

If I have this wrong I am sure a more knowledgeable FReeper will correct me.

3 posted on 04/28/2011 11:11:12 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I don’t know. It’s irrelevant.


4 posted on 04/28/2011 11:15:11 AM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: All

If the AP is the origin, why isn’t FOX News covering this?


5 posted on 04/28/2011 11:15:33 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Give it up folks.


6 posted on 04/28/2011 11:16:31 AM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: GunRunner

It isn’t irrelevant if the source and the origin is the AP and not the GOP.


7 posted on 04/28/2011 11:18:24 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: tirednvirginia

Why should anyone give up trying to find out where this all started? If it all started with the AP wouldn’t we want to make that widely known?


8 posted on 04/28/2011 11:23:42 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I used to work in a library and had access to newspapers from all over the USA. I collected articles on various subjects and was amazed at how different newspapers publish the same AP story. Based on which AP paragraphs were printed in a specific newspaper, you could easily identify the left or right bias of the particular newspaper. Headline wording accompanying AP stories seems to also be up to the individual newspaper. By printing only part of the AP story, the newspaper has the ability to modify the slant.


9 posted on 04/28/2011 11:33:50 AM PDT by Brent Calvert 03969-030
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
If it all started with the AP wouldn’t we want to make that widely known?

Because nobody cares. The Clintons brought it up and everyone knows it. The media and the left will try to pin all of this on the Republicans and the Tea Party.

No amount of evidence is going to help. These aren't rational beings that we're dealing with here.

10 posted on 04/28/2011 11:48:43 AM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
No, it didn't. The "Kenyan-born" part was added by the paper in Africa, presumably to increase local interest. There are other versions of the article as published in San Diego and Seattle papers that don't contain that phrase.
11 posted on 04/28/2011 11:56:08 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ap.asp

I tend to believe the Snopes take on this.

Newspaper standard MO is to keep body copy intact - cases where body copy is rewritten or edited are often noted as “AP reports and writer XYZ contributed to this report.”

Headlines are a different story. In almost every case, the headline for AP or other wire stories are rewritten by the local editor.

I see it every day as a PR professional. Headlines are almost always written by someone other than the person who wrote the report under them. It has been this way for years, maybe forever.


12 posted on 04/28/2011 12:02:27 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: Brent Calvert 03969-030
Based on which AP paragraphs were printed in a specific newspaper, you could easily identify the left or right bias of the newspaper.

I'd bet the ranch that the "left bias" newspapers greatly outnumbered the "right bias" ones.

AP itself is a consortium of newspaper organizations which contribute to a common operation in order to reduce the reporting costs for each member paper. No wonder why the AP stories are left biased: just about all the member newspapers which support it are!

13 posted on 04/28/2011 12:05:48 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: tirednvirginia

You’ve got to be joking!

Obama used the certificate number of a dead baby girl named Virginia Suharna - born Aug 4, 1961, died Aug 5 1961. On top of that he put in the time of birth, 7:24 pm, from the Kenyan birth certificate, and then at the bottom it was signed by U.K.L.Lee.

Obama wasn’t born in Honolulu, Hawaii. There was more than one witness to his birth in Mombassa, Kenya.


14 posted on 04/28/2011 12:29:43 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NOT FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Hey, stuff disappears. There was supposed to be a videotape somewhere of a debate between Barry and Amb Keyes where his birth was brought up. The stories goes that Keyes challenged Barry’s birth, and Barry supposedly said something to the effect that, “Yeah, but I’m running for Senate, not the White House”. That tape supposedly went away.


15 posted on 04/28/2011 12:51:42 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

LFC - I dont know the answer to your question, but there is (was) a FREE REPUBLIC member - think his code name is Davey Crocket. 2 weeks ago, he sent links to SIX African new articles referring to BO being born in Kenya. The day I received it, I was able to access all six docs. Since then only one or two ! UG ! I haven’t seen him of the site recently, but I believe the obamafile.com site also had several images, but last time I checked, a few were either missing or “scrubbed” ? This annoys me, because I always throught there was something to that...even though many are not bothering with the Kenyan Birth theory, there really is a LOT of indications that it was (and still could possibly be) a viable true story.


16 posted on 04/28/2011 1:30:32 PM PDT by rocco55
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To: rocco55

The censors of 2011 have a way easier job than those of 1984.


17 posted on 04/28/2011 3:17:24 PM PDT by tbw2
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