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I think Tim Pawlenty will be the last man standing and get the nomination (vanity)
5/23/2011 | Self

Posted on 05/23/2011 9:22:50 AM PDT by Signalman

This is just, of course, a prediction on my part but here's why:

1. As a former governor, he has executive experience and, from what I understand, he was a pretty good governor. After 4 years of Obozo's incompetence, the American people are longing for a competent administrator.

2. Unlike Romney, who still refuses to disavow Romneycare, Pawlenty came out of the gate admitting he was wrong on Cap and Trade. That was a smart move, and it takes takes that monkey off his back. And two other competing governors, Daniels and Huck, are out of the race.

3. Unlike Palin and Newt, Pawlenty has an uncontroversial past (as far as I know) and doesn't appear to have any significant issues from his past that the rabid lame-stream media could use against him.

4. He's not AS conservative as many of us would like but, on the other hand, he won't have any problems getting the Independent voters and as we all know, without them, we can't win.


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KEYWORDS: 2012; no; palin; pawlenty; prognostication; tpaw
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To: Signalman
He's not AS conservative as many of us would like

Freepers who threaten to hold their breath and turn blue until the 2nd coming of Reagan aside...... I'll take someone who I agree with 90% of the time, over someone who I disagree with 100% of the time.

And, I'd add that if FR was around in the early 80s, plenty of FReepers wouldn't have liked Reagan, either. "He's Hollywood Elite" "Out of Touch" "Not getting rid of abortion/taxes/spending/unemployment/whatever fast enough" Or pick another commonly held FR belief.

Pawlenty would be an OK choice. Maybe not the best, but eminently better than what we've currently got.

81 posted on 05/23/2011 10:42:21 AM PDT by wbill
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Yep. Unfortunately, this rule applies to Pawlenty even more than the Mittster. With Mitt, I think he might put one home state (Michigan) into play, but not Massachusetts. Pawlenty, OTOH, starts out with no base outside of Minnesota.

For whatever reason, I got this sick feeling that the northeast/New England RINO establishment seeks to use Mitt Romney as nothing more than a place holder for the Bush family. And its too bad, because like George W. Bush, I genuinely like the guy and think he might make some contribution on a cabinet level position like Secretary of Commerce. But keep him as far away from health care (and the presidency) as possible. He just doesn't get it here any more than George W. Bush got it on secure borders.

82 posted on 05/23/2011 10:45:51 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Fred Thompson was a better Conservative, and less boring too. He didn’t get far.

It might have helped if Fred would have really wanted to win.

83 posted on 05/23/2011 10:51:17 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: sport

Always with the negative waves sport … always with the negative ways. Have a little faith, baby. Have a little faith.

This is a brand new time. A time for Palin … Cain … West … or Bachmann (or combination thereof).

84 posted on 05/23/2011 10:53:45 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Wow, what a comment.


85 posted on 05/23/2011 10:55:59 AM PDT by mel (o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You know i don’t agree with everyone on here, but I do not recall ever saying something as ghetto as you are smoking crack ha ha ha
Melissa


86 posted on 05/23/2011 10:57:36 AM PDT by mel (o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: PhilCollins
Since 1900, only one Republican became president by defeating an incumbent. That was Ronald Reagan, in 1980. He had these four traits that might have helped him

One with those traits won. How many people since 1900 had those traits and didn't win? I'm guessing a whole lot more than one.

Those four traits don't necessarily make a Ronald Reagan. Unlike the others you have mentioned, Reagan had an incredibly likable personality which made it hard for even his enemies to personally dislike him and which made a lot of people who would have otherwise voted against him, vote for him. Reagan was a popular governor of a giant state which could provide a large percentage of the necessary electoral votes for victory. Reagan was the undisputed leader of the conservative movement. The dynamics of 1980 are a lot different than the dynamics of 2012 which means that those traits wouldn't guarantee a victory (although personally, I could easily vote for both Palin and Kempthorne).

Making points 2 and 4 fit Mitt Romney is a real stretch. I know very few conservatives who would claim him. Michigan and Massachusetts (his two strongest claims to a home state) are hardly western states.

87 posted on 05/23/2011 11:14:32 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: Signalman

Wow a guy that makes Juan McCain look exciting. Real winner there.


88 posted on 05/23/2011 11:16:35 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." A. C. Clarke)
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To: Signalman

He’s not off my “too stupid to vote for” list. Supporting cap and trade/anthropogenic global warming is a breach of fundamental principles.


89 posted on 05/23/2011 11:19:36 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: Artemis Webb
I completely agree. I have no problem with people supporting the candidates of their choice. Dems can support dems, commies can support commies, libs can support libs, socialists can support socialists, RINOs can support RINOs, beltway elites can support beltway elites, Obamites can support Obama -- but not here.

On this conservative site, we need to support conservatives. The others can take care of themselves.

90 posted on 05/23/2011 11:21:54 AM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: smokingfrog
Not likely. Pawlenty is going to fade away rather quickly, I think.

Correct. Think of the movie Braveheart, with William Wallace as a true Warrior. We need that mindset to defeat the left and RINOs politically.

Does anyone think Tim will be a Warrior for limited government? LOL. He is a weak man who has no idea the dangers our Republic faces.

91 posted on 05/23/2011 11:22:25 AM PDT by sand88 (Sarah Palin announces her run: August 12, 2011 11:10am ET)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I'm sure, however, that Pawlenty supports some type of "free market" or "conservative" version of cap-and-trade, like all Republicans do when they don't have the guts to kill statist policies outright.

Agree. I wish someone would ask Tim if he would advocate FIRING every bureaucrat hired in support of Obomacare. He would mostly likely give a weaselly political answer. OTOH Sarah would instinctively say YES.

Tim doesn't look at government as inherently evil. Sarah knows the evil of government.

92 posted on 05/23/2011 11:25:28 AM PDT by sand88 (Sarah Palin announces her run: August 12, 2011 11:10am ET)
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To: freedumb2003
Trust me, that will last all of 5 seconds once he declares.

No, that will last until he wraps up the nomination. McCain was the poster boy for the NYT and WaPo until he had the votes. Heck, they didn't even wait until the convention. They ran the presses over him the Wednesday after Super Tuesday.

93 posted on 05/23/2011 11:27:16 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Servant of the Cross

I had a little faith. That is what turned me into a realist.


94 posted on 05/23/2011 11:30:51 AM PDT by sport
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To: EternalVigilance
I won't vote for this McCain Republican.

Would that include Palin also, since she has been McCain's #1 supporter over the past three years, giving more pro-McCain speeches than anyone in America?

95 posted on 05/23/2011 11:31:02 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson
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To: freedumb2003

Not a Pawlenty fan by any means, but keep in mind that Pawlenty has been governor in a state for 8 years that has the Star Tribune (otherwise known as “The Red Star”) as its primary newspaper. This is a newspaper that published fraudulent allegations against a GOP gubernatorial candidate in 1990, forcing him from the race and allowing a RINO to win the race. If there was something to dig up on him, it would have been done by now.


96 posted on 05/23/2011 11:35:09 AM PDT by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: Charles Henrickson

No, I won’t vote for her. She’s pro-choice for states on abortion, exactly like Gerald R. Ford and John McCain. She supports the sovereignty-destroying Law of the Sea Treaty. She supports the education establishment which is destroying the minds and souls of our young people. She’s a judicial supremacist. And her stated positions on immigration and amnesty have been identical to McCain’s. That’s just for starters.


97 posted on 05/23/2011 11:36:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Capital punishment is pro-life.)
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To: Signalman

General Election: Pawlenty vs. Obama

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample Obama (D) Pawlenty (R) Spread
RCP Average 3/10 - 5/12 -- 49.3 35.2 Obama +14.1
Politico/GWU/Battleground 5/8 - 5/12 1000 LV 52 38 Obama +14
Reuters/Ipsos 5/5 - 5/9 600 A 51 33 Obama +18
ABC News/Wash Post 4/14 - 4/17 1001 A 53 38 Obama +15
FDU/Public Mind 3/21 - 3/28 800 RV 48 34 Obama +14
Rasmussen Reports 3/22 - 3/23 1000 LV 45 35 Obama +10
PPP (D) 3/10 - 3/13 642 RV 47 33 Obama +14

See All General Election: Pawlenty vs. Obama Polling Data


98 posted on 05/23/2011 11:40:57 AM PDT by deport
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To: CommerceComet

The word “conservative” is relative. Romney is more conservative than Sen. McCain, Sen. Kirk, and ex-Mayor Guiliani. A March survey said that 68% of conservatives think that he’s conservative. I don’t support him. I’m only quoting other conservatives.


99 posted on 05/23/2011 12:02:59 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: Charles Henrickson; EternalVigilance

Remember Eternal Vigilance runs a third party, and will not vote for a Republican for president.


100 posted on 05/23/2011 12:06:23 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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