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ultravanity: Founding Father brought to the present?
5.26.2011

Posted on 05/26/2011 5:36:49 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch

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To: Fast Moving Angel

That name is as obscure to me as Button Gwinnett.


21 posted on 05/26/2011 6:53:07 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (r e p e n t o r b e s a d)
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To: NonValueAdded

thanks for the correction, and great information!

...but i believe the rest is correct, that Jefferson understood Islam is permanently at war with us, and that appeasement and bribes don’t work in the long run.

as for your last line, about “qualifications for office”,
all i can say, is AMEN!!!


22 posted on 05/26/2011 6:59:25 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: KrisKrinkle

I’d be elated with a 3 pence stamp tax!


23 posted on 05/26/2011 8:17:41 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (r e p e n t o r b e s a d)
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To: IAMIUBU
“Jefferson”

Indeed. Maybe then he'd go back and make sure the 2nd Amendment was stated more plainly, and the slavery issue wasn't left for a later generation, and that Alexander Hamilton lost the debt argument.

24 posted on 05/26/2011 8:58:54 PM PDT by Old Student
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To: Old Student

The Second Amendment covers every male from 18 to 45. Of course if you are after that age it certainly involves you if needed.


25 posted on 05/26/2011 9:02:01 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Franklin. None of them could do anything about our folly, but he got it right: "A republic, Madam, if you can keep it." We haven't, or rather I should say our contemporaries haven't because they have found things that are more important to them, such as the bread and circuses of fast food and television.

The corruption is in us, not in the Founders, and both Federalist and anti-Federalist feared a system that was malleable enough for a corrupt and stupid public to twist into what we see before us. It is, as they knew it would be, a reflection of the underlying society, and it is that society that must protect the plan, not a plan that can protect its society. A "living" document in a corrupt and reeling society will be a corrupt and reeling document and there's nothing its authors can do about it.

Franklin, then, because he could laugh through the pain and I'd love to kill a bottle with him.

26 posted on 05/26/2011 9:17:49 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: InvisibleChurch

HA! Not so obscure to me...when I was in Junior High, we had to pretend to do a ‘convention’...and I signed the declaration as Button Gwinnett! I remember the name, and having to sign it, but I couldn’t tell you anything else about him! HAHA!


27 posted on 05/26/2011 9:28:00 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: InvisibleChurch

Well, this is rather off topic, but I always want to say this, so I will.

Hubby and I watched some silly assassins movie one night, the plot is too confusing to recount even if I could remember it, but it was about some society of great assassins and Angelina Jolie was one of them. It wasn’t bad for a movie of that type, sorry I don’t remember the title.

Anyhoo, at one point some of them got into a discussion about if they could go back in history who would each of them assassinate.

And I immediately said Jean Jacques Rousseau, to such a large extent he started the western world on the perditious path it has been on for hundreds of years and the end not really in sight. Unless it is to end in domination by the Muslims.

Which it ain’t, btw.


28 posted on 05/26/2011 9:30:33 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: eyedigress

“The Second Amendment covers every male from 18 to 45. Of course if you are after that age it certainly involves you if needed.”

Are you saying that the current and several past governments have not been less than clear on what “shall not infringe” means? Or are you digressing? I mean, I was 13 when GCA 68 was passed, for crying out loud!

OS


29 posted on 05/26/2011 9:52:56 PM PDT by Old Student
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To: allmost

The only founder I could imagine coming to 2011 and enjoying himself is Franklin. I would *love* to pick that man’s brain.


30 posted on 05/27/2011 6:26:22 AM PDT by OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
He'd probably drink you under the table and go looking for a hooker from what I've read. Not disparaging the man in any way. He was a good ‘partier’ and helped us immensely with the French. Life was harder back then. He might want to enjoy this reality.
31 posted on 05/27/2011 6:50:33 AM PDT by allmost
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