Posted on 08/11/2011 7:49:26 PM PDT by dila813
Ok, I am out shopping for the perfect retreat to get away from the city and if required live out there without any resupply required.
What I have so far identified: 1. Plentiful Nearby Food Supplies 2. Lots of Land 3. Shelters - anything specific about the shelter other than insulation, wood heat, and wind power with back up generators? 4. Guns? 5. Ammo? 6. Tools? 7. Sanitation?
Honeyville Freeze Dried Meat Combo in #10 can. 10-15 years storage life.
That is true, but I don’t expect them to find it for at least several years.
Too much low hanging fruit for them to attack before they get out to someplace where I will be.
Countless farms for them to loot.
By the time they get out to where I am, if I don’t see anything improving I can move again to someplace that is so inaccessible it will even be hard for me to get to. It is close by.
I don’t want to leave this area though. At least right now, I think it is the perfect setup.
Ultimately, it think the largest group of individuals with superior weapons and tactics will survive.
How To Build a Railway Handcar
http://www.howtodothings.com/travel/how-to-build-a-railway-handcar
Or buiding/modifying two bikes to use in tamdem like these.
http://rrbike.freeservers.com/
By attaching bars between the two you could secure a good load of gear and if you came to a place you need to get off the rails you could switch the bikes to normal and ride or push them
You are most welcome.
You are most welcome.
Not worried about it’s shelf life, worried people are lazy and eat it.
I think that a whole lot of these groups are going to alilate each other long before they reach us. That means that only the best of the best are going to reach us.
That means I need to play the evasion game and guerrilla tactics of knowing the area I am in.
I suspect they will size up our group pretty quick and either go get backup to take us on or leave us be.
In either case, we want to detect them by knowing the area, if someone was there, we should know and see the signs. We may not be there when they come back.
Not so much what you have, just that whatever you DO have you KNOW how to use, e.g., spinning-wheel. Can you make your own cloth, and weave it into clothes?
Have you considered the immediate repercussions to having the world-market cornered in feminine hygine products? Are you prepared to live with the consequencess? Failure to understand the issue is no less significant than not being prepared.
I don’t know about the one in Virgina, but I’ve read about this one:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/19/us/19ozarks.html
I can make cloth with or without a spinning wheel, not that I want to.
Isn’t R. Heinlein a science fiction writer? I looked at the table of contents, don’t see the relevance?
1. Water.
2. More water.
3. Guns.
4. Ammo.
5. Allies.
You'll go through water faster than you realize, and the food on hand will last you a bit longer than you'd think. Beyond that, you need weapons, and you need friends with weapons. Anyone that doesn't have the above won't make it long enough to bemoan 6. Food, and 7. Medical supplies, and so on and so forth.
Water, weapons and allies. Guns you know how to use, and friends you trust that will rally up with things get rough. Family. Church. Co-workers. Whatever. A two week supply of water, plus ammo and a good squad means you get to go on to round 2 and round 3. All the badass survival gear you can buy won't help you if some thugs with sticks and knives rolls you up while you're asleep or jumps you when you're alone. A few armed men working together and defending land they know are more dangerous than a horde of looters.
there is a thousand year supply of water there, it falls from the sky.
Thank god it isn’t the desert, we will have more water than we know what to do with.
Well good thing it isn’t going to be at my home, ah?
Once you understand that, you'll want to organize an early warning network. Assuming your cell phones are not working, there are commercial radios that are quite handy, depending on the distance and line of sight. When we used to go into certain neighborhoods in Baghdad, there would be early warning networks run by kids. They'd radio or text each other. Some places would use air horns or smoke. Another would even release a big flock of pidgeons from a certain rooftop. Doesn't really matter, so long as you have a way to warn the neighborhood that outsiders are poking around.
More than anything, I'd avoid the temptation to make your house and family a lone fortress. Looters will dissolve in the face of organized resistance. I can't stress that enough. A common defense between 5 families is 10x stronger than 5 lone families.
Eastern Washington, don’t think so.....you surely wouldn’t trust anything that you see on the Internet would you?
For early warning we are using a network of fishing line run through the trees for miles around with bells on the end. Don’t think radios will be secure but those we will keep for back up.
Anyone who pulls on them without knowing what they are will alert us to their presence. Not only that, we can use them to detect the presence of game movements.
Hopefully we will have 40 people there to defend, but if someone reaches up, it is going to be the shoot and scoot all the way
They are going to have to be some stone cold elite killers to reach where we will be. Even with 40 people, I don’t want to confront that.
Don’t forget salt and a source for potassium, which can also be potassium salt.
Both are essential nutrients and if you end up dehydrated for whatever reason, especially in the case of some of the nastier water borne intestinal diseases, rehydration can mean the difference between life and death.
Since you won’t have IV bags to depend on at the local ER, you can drink the solution. Think Gatorade or Pedialyte type of stuff. If you have the salts on hand and a supply of pure water, you can make it yourself.
Be aware that if someone stumbles on it they could ransack it or vandalize it. IIRC, it happened to a FReeper not too long ago. I wish I could recall who it was.....
But if you're going to store stuff on site, you need to camouflage it well. Find somewhere on the property not inside the house to bury stuff in hermetically sealed containers.
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