Posted on 09/05/2011 12:34:03 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
WHy shouldn’t they ignore their opponents?
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Sean:
September 5th, 2011 at 3:17 am
Ive heard that the editor of Remote Sensing sent a personal letter of apology to Kevin Trenberth over the publication of the Spencer Braswell paper. Its not the first resignation inspired by Dr. Trenbreth. Steve Goddards site has the letter that Chris Landsea sent to the IPCC several years ago because of the miss characterization of the hurricane frequency and intensity as a result of climate change. http://www.real-science.com/uncategorized/kevin-trenberth-master-ipcc-junk-science He specifically mentions hyping the results in a press conference by people (Trenberth) who did not have the expertise to make such claims. I found it a bit perplexing that the participants in the Harvard press conference had come to the conclusion that global warming was impacting hurricane activity today. To my knowledge, none of the participants in that press conference had performed any research on hurricane variability, nor were they reporting on any new work in the field. All previous and current research in the area of hurricane variability has shown no reliable, long-term trend up in the frequency or intensity of tropical cyclones, either in the Atlantic or any other basin. The IPCC assessments in 1995 and 2001 also concluded that there was no global warming signal found in the hurricane record. Trenberth has become a one man wrecking crew of scientific integrity.
Trenberth seems to be at the center of the CAGW cabal linking English and American academics along with gov’t scientific centers.
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Jaymez:
September 5th, 2011 at 3:37 am
If the climate alarmists cant control the popular press, they will try harder to control the scientific press. This was evidenced before in the Climategate emails and here in Australia with the CSIRO re-interpreting research results released by their own scientists to reduce any possibility the IPCC orthodoxy is brought into question.
The peer review process in climate science is operating like our real estate industry where practitioners will always tell you its a great time to buy regardless of the evidence to the contrary. The state based REal Estate Institutes only report settled sales, they dont report how many properties are taken off the market after failing to sell.
Sales prices are tracked and graphed without adjusting for the fact hundreds of thousands of dollars can be spent on renovation, additions and upgrades and thousands of dollars are spent on maintenance, rates, taxes,stamp duties and selling fees by the owners, thus dramatically reducing the actual return on investment. Consequently the real estate industry property market charts always show a higher capital growth rate than is ever actually achieved by the market.
They can also make property slumps disappear. Sound familiar?
Climate scientists are becoming the real estate agents of the science world willing to sell human induced catastrophic climate change no matter what the evidence.
He was also an understudy to Dr. James Hansen of GISS.
They should all hang together.
the world is Heresy
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Elsabio:
September 5th, 2011 at 7:42 am If anyone is interested in reading the egregious study, you can download it here [.pdf]. The more people who download it the better, but do so now before it is disappeared.
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Bruce of Newcastle:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:34 am
Ill add that Prof Pielke Snr has a new post which excoriates the MSM article by Drs Trenberth, Gleike and Abraham:
What is disturbing, however, in the Trenberth et al article is its tone and disparagement of two outstanding scientists.
Instead of addressing the science issues, they resort to statements such as Spencer and Christy making serial mistakes. This is truly a hatchet job and will only further polarize the climate science debate.
If they cant explain in a blog article where the science is wrong then it is probably because it is pretty right. That is the impression I get from Prof Pielke who famously lists in great detail all the science papers which show why if there IS something wrong. He would not have held back regarding Dr Spencers paper if that were the case. Instead he calls Drs Spencer & Christy two outstanding scientists. Hard to better that vote of confidence.
Yeah, but check out some comments on WUWT and see where the editor’s “day job” was. “Hockey Stick” Mann and “Perpetually Offended” Trenberth both hold sway over the boards or companies where he’s gainfully employed.
Not surprising at all that he caved, apologized to Trenberth and resigned. Apparently, the board of the publication wouldn’t back him in rescinding the Spencer paper after Trenberth et al gave him his marching orders.
What an incestuous, grade-school mentality these AGW proponents share. “Scientist” is one term that cannot be applied to them.
Like 0bama's unemployment statistics.
Thanks for that update!
Somebody back then had the bright idea that, if peer reviewers were anonymous and free from accountability, they would be more candid and more truthful. For about five decades, ...NSF, NASA and other agencies have been doing what no foreign adversary or terrorist organization has been able to do: They have been slowly and imperceptibly undermining American science, driving America toward third-world status in science. Secret, unaccountable reviews - frequently by one's competitors - give unfair advantage to reviewers who would falsely berate a competitor's proposal for research funds... The system has been to open to corruption for decades, and remains open to further corruption... There is a far, far more devastating consequence of secret, unaccountable reviews: Out of fear of being "denounced" in secret reviews, many scientists have become pale-gray, defensive, adopting only the consensus-approved viewpoint and refraining from discussing anything that might be considered a challenge to other's work or to the funding agency's programs. Political correctness is the order. -- Alvarez by Luis Alvarez (page 184)
I must reiterate my feeling that experimentalists always welcome the suggestions of the theorists. But the present situation is ridiculous... In my considered opinion the peer review system, in which proposals rather than proposers are reviewed, is the greatest disaster to be visited upon the scientific community in this century. No group of peers would have approved my building the 72-inch bubble chamber. Even Ernest Lawrence told me that he thought I was making a big mistake. He supported me because my track record was good. I believe U.S. science could recover from the stultifying effects of decades of misguided peer reviewing if we returned to the tried-and-true method of evaluating experimenters rather than experimental proposals. Many people will say that my ideas are elitist, and I certainly agree. The alternative is the egalitarianism that we now practice and that I've seen nearly kill basic science in the USSR and in the People's Republic of China. -- ibid (pp 200-201)
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The Alvarez family certainly learned about academic orthodoxy when the tried to convince the world of their boloid impact theory for the death of the dinosaurs. I am glad to see that a few scientists are actually beginning to ignore the orthodoxy that has restricted archeological quests to areas mostly above sea level. With water as low as 400 feet below current sea levels in the past 18,000 years, there is so much potential for exploration.
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