Actually, we need a second party.
The GOP establishment and the democrats are the good cop,bad cop of collectivism.
I keep posting this message: Both parties are driving us toward socialism its just that one party is driving a little faster than the other. If obama is reelected the fault lands squarely at the feet of the GOP for not supporting a true conservative. I will not vote for a RINO and if obama is reelected because of a third party then Im ready to rip off the band-aid and have this revolution. I can fight for my childrens freedoms. If I help elect a RINO then my children will have to fight for their own freedoms. Id rather do that for them.
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I am with you in heart, may still vote Romney in the general, but will not enouthousastically campaign for him! J.S.
This is premature until we know if Myth or Ron Paul becomes the nominee.
If that is what happens, then it becomes imperative.
Until then, we should all be fighting for an acceptable alternative.
The truth is we are being kept from having a viable candidate which we shouldn’t allow under any circumstance. They are afraid of the mention of conservative.
Can we hold off on the panic attack until we have a few more primaries? Right now we’ve just had two primaries in liberal states where Dems can vote in them.
The thing to keep in mind ( all of us ) is that it takes 1440 delegates at the convention to get the nomination. With ballots cast in the most moderate and liberal states for mcromney says nothing.... gotta let this thing play out, and do not get upset, it ain’t over till it is over
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This is because they cannot work structurally in our system, which is not parliamentary or first-past-the-post.
Third parties are small businesses - their revenues are donations and the product they sell in exchange for those donations is the illusion of being part of something important.
My concern is that if Romney wins the primary and the general election, he will run for reelection in 2016 (meaning conservatives will struggle with the same choice again). I hope the republican party would run someone against him in a primary in 2016 who is more conservative, but I question the party's desire to do so.
Maybe I’ll run my own personal experiment. If Myth Rino gets the nod then I will not participate in the general. i will vote senate and house and leave pres alone. If he can win without me then I am good to go third party from now on. The R’s don’t want or need me.
No matter how bad and unloved the Republican candidate is (e.g. McCain) the vast majority of conservatives will hold their noses (or delude themselves by focusing on whoever the veep is) and vote for what they claim to be the "lesser of two evils".
A better strategy would be to try to help create a real third liberal party, e.g. Green Party. Every conservative in a solidly blue state should vote for the Green Party candidate, whoever that is.
If you are a conservative in a blue state, voting for Romney will do no one any favors. If, however, enough people vote for the Green Party candidate then that party will get funding next year and will be recognized as an official party. They will most likely get invited to participate in debates, etc. This will siphon off votes from the Democrats and force the Democrat candidates to move further left than they want in the primaries to keep these people on their side.
Once a liberal Green Party is established, we can then think about creating a conservative fourth party to keep the Republicans honest.
I’m pretty sure Sarah would not run this year, regardless of the party, but I have felt for some time this is the one year a 3rd party candidate could do it, especially of Sarah Palin. I know lots of women on the Democratic side would jump ship and vote for her. Never before has there been such a sense of abandonment of the party’s standards, not to say we don’t have some good candidates. It’s just that the debates have left them all wounded and bleeding along the roadside. America has no perfect people, never has had, never will. We conservatives are just as bad as any other constituency for listening to “news” and not having discernment, changing our minds. We need to (if there is any future elections) do our own homework and stick with the candidate of our choice. If people can be swayed by this report or that, then we are the deficient ones, not the candidates alone. It looks to me that it is not a small percentage that are the swing vote, but anybody who is not a Romney-bot or a Paul-bot. This does not end well. I realize that when candidates drop out, it changes things, but most people have a 2nd choice automatically, and this year, it seems that the debates have pushed us every which way but straight to the right candidate. This is why I have said for months that the debates should NOT choose our candidate. This election cycle, there are candidates’ records to look at. Anybody can say anything in a debate, look entirely awesome in a debate, but actually be very far from that personally. The couple candidates that have not veered too far from actuality are Rick Santorum and Rick Perry. Many won’t vote for one because he is a Catholic, and the other because he made too many gaffs. Both have stellar records, if we cared to look beyond the Soros accusations being dished out via Ron Paul. Ron Paul is now effectively controlled by Soros and we’d be putting another Soros puppet into the WH if he was elected. Have we not learned enough from this current puppet the evil intents of George Soros? To me, Palin is the only truly passionate conservative that can really kick butt and get the job done, but she’s not running. We must choose the one that is closest to her that is left.
If the Congress is conservative it won't matter who "occupies"the white house.
We already have the following parties:
Boston Tea Party
Green Party
Justice Party
Libertarian Party
Party of Socialism and Liberation
Prohibition Party
Reform Party USA
Socialist Party USA
Independent
So what will your proposed twelfth accomplish?
If it comes down to Obama vs Romney or (and this is a joke) Obama vs Paul, I will vote third party, write in or leave that box blank.
If the establishment GOP has not gotten the message after the negative message of the RINO McCain’s trouncing or the positive messages of the Tea Party Congressional conservative victories and the most successful Presidency in modern US history, Reagan, they may need an even bigger message.
I think it may be nearing time for a new “Tea Party”.