Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

VANITY: HERMAN CAIN: ENDORSE **MITT ROMNEY** AT YOUR OWN POLITICAL RISK (From Former Supporter)
self | 17 January 2012 | AmericaninTokyo

Posted on 01/15/2012 7:24:17 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo

(VANITY)

Word has it that Mr. Herman Cain, a strong conservative presidential candidate incessantly attacked by the national media, the DNC and the RINO Establishment slime machine, is in a position now to endorse in pivotal South Carolina prior to its presidential primary.

The problem is, some indications are coming out that such an endorsement, while "unconventional" may be going to Mitt Romney, the worst possible choice for the Republicans in 2012 and certainly no conservative, easily beatable by Barack Obama in November. Sucn an endorsement would be highly inadvisable. Many of us, former 2012 Cain supporters, volunteers and donors say this in unison and with passion.


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: 2012; cain; conservatism; endorsement; hermancain; mittromney; primaries; romney; scarolina; southcarolina; vanity
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-111 next last
To: AmericanInTokyo

**an endorsement, while “unconventional” may be going to Mitt Romney, the worst possible choice for the Republicans in 2012 and certainly no conservative**

We don’t want Cain to endorse Willard. Please let him know.w


51 posted on 01/15/2012 8:21:09 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AmericanInTokyo

Romney supporters played a huge role in dumping Cain.... Like talk show host WTMJ’s Charley Sykes, (who sometimes subs for a Salem personality) was banging away at Cain the day before the Politico story broke and kept it up daily for two solid weeks until Cain dropped out.

When Cain discussed the VP slot he virtually eliminated Romney...If he were to endorse Romney I believe that would be the way, Worst Possible Choice, he would do it...Which is certainly a non endorsement and a stern warning.


52 posted on 01/15/2012 8:21:33 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Moses ..A nick name I received as a kid for warning another -It's a sin to tell a lie")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: South40

I think Rand Paul will be the Romney VEEP if Romney gets the nomination. I think there’s a deal. RP no 3rd party and attacks those like Newt who get in contention.

Kentucky is far enough South, Rand is perceived to be conservative and has Tea Party support.


53 posted on 01/15/2012 8:22:46 PM PST by duffee (NEWT 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: AmericanInTokyo

Cain is all about Cain - always was -

He’s going to make another of his ‘big announcements on the 19th = horning in on the publicity.

He need to endorse or go home and be quiet

http://www.blackchristiannews.com/news/2012/01/herman-cain-says-he-will-not-endorse-anyone-in-the-gop-primary.html

“Cain will speak Jan. 19 at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference in Charleston, S.C., two days before the South Carolina primary. He said he will use that speech to make an “unconventional endorsement” in the presidential race, which means that he will not be blessing a single candidate.

“My mission is to help defeat Barack Obama,” he said. “I want my supporters to stay excited and enthused. And if I pick one person, some of them may not like that one person, and that would fragment my supporters.”

Go home, Herman, it isn’t all about you - it never was.


54 posted on 01/15/2012 8:25:20 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MindBender26

“Plus Newt has no ground game here in FL.”

Shouldn’t that be sufficient evidence to dump Newt now while we still can?


55 posted on 01/15/2012 8:25:20 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Cato in PA

Yup, more or less. Basically, if you think cynically enough about this whole political process, you’ll probably approximate a close rendition of the actual truth.

I’d bet Herman has probably adopted a “go along to get along” attitude, and believes that by forging connections with the Establishment (the Blob), they’ll basically let him in and lend his group support.


56 posted on 01/15/2012 8:25:46 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: AmericanInTokyo

To the headline: oh, vomit!


57 posted on 01/15/2012 8:26:01 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AmericanInTokyo

Huntsman endorses Romney, Cain endorses Romney, Bachmann endorses Romney

SHocking!


58 posted on 01/15/2012 8:26:11 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: South40

“Is Perry smart enough to drop out also? Probably not.”

So what’s it to you if we get to hear a conservative voice from a successful sitting governor. What’s the problem with hearing the thoughts and ideas from the head of the Republican Governors Association? What is wrong with a candidate staying in as long as he can to present his conservative views? Who says we have to do things the Karl Rove way?

Maybe someone else is getting ready to enter the race anyway. Then what?


59 posted on 01/15/2012 8:30:43 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: FryingPan101

Amen!


60 posted on 01/15/2012 8:33:18 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: Kenny

I don’t believe Perry likes or will endorse Romney (unless that’s who ends up nominated), but think Santorum will. However, BOTH are drawing votes away from Newt by staying in - particularly Perry.


61 posted on 01/15/2012 8:34:13 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: llandres

OH its Perrys fault! LOL


62 posted on 01/15/2012 8:35:32 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: maine-iac7

I sent Herman Cain the money I usually sent to Newt each week when he was having all his trouble... what bothers me, not only that he quit, but that he could have followed up on those women, leveled charges like he once threatened to with his highpriced lawyer. He gave no reasons, no explanation, no apology, just left because that’s what Mrs Cain wanted.

Because he didn’t want to put his family through hell... well there are a whole lot of American soldiers who put their families through hell, year after year, to serve their country... He could have been a statesman, gone away quietly, and helped one of the remaining candidates... after all, the people who gave to him did so with the presidency in mind.. what’s at stake this election. Now he’s going to be a big distraction... I am really disappointed in him.


63 posted on 01/15/2012 8:37:09 PM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: Islander2

Believe me, I did not say “source” anywhere above, however I did say a cross section of comments, activities, etc., past endorsments and the like, gave some not unreasonable indication this may be where he is headed—as laid out in detail in my post #8, what with the GOP Establishment in Full Bandwagon Mode for Mitt Romney nowadays. I am getting a bad feeling here. So, my post is merely and clearly “pre-emptive” in nature, pre facto. It is to help create a negative impetus for him ever to do such a thing based from feedback from his grassroots base. And it is important that on his website, facebook and what not, Mr. Cain hear this in unison from Cain supporter after Cain supporter, as I have also weighed in, that for no reason is he advised wisely to support Willard Romney — though the pressure on him will from the GOP Establishment be immense.


64 posted on 01/15/2012 8:37:13 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Romneybots may appear left & right on FR in the next few weeks/months. Jim/Mods, PLEASE zap 'em!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: llandres

Most of the Perry supporters I know have NO interest in Newt and even less in Santorum. They will most likely sit out.


65 posted on 01/15/2012 8:37:34 PM PST by magritte
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: magritte

I would reluctantly support Gingrich and I mean Reluctantly!

Perry and Gingrich are worlds apart


66 posted on 01/15/2012 8:42:08 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: mylife

As others may eventually hold their noses and keep an air sick bag available may do as well. Currently, most will not admit to be reduced to that. As you said, Newt and Perry have little in common conservative-wise.


67 posted on 01/15/2012 8:44:13 PM PST by magritte
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: Bobalu

Well, McCain was such a stunning success.
McRomney should be just a continuation of such wise nominee choices.

Be sure to give Conservatives the choice of a Dem or a RINO.
Really excites the Base thus, motivating them to get out and vote, despite whatever re-run is on TV that night.


68 posted on 01/15/2012 8:45:44 PM PST by OldArmy52 (Obaba, creator of the emerging Socialist-Fascist American Police State.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Bobalu

Well, McCain was such a stunning success.
McRomney should be just a continuation of such wise nominee choices.

Be sure to give Conservatives the choice of a Dem or a RINO.
Really excites the Base thus, motivating them to get out and vote, despite whatever re-run is on TV that night.


69 posted on 01/15/2012 8:46:58 PM PST by OldArmy52 (McCain endorses McRomney....wowser!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Utmost Certainty; justsaynomore

That’s just flat-out unfair (as are many of the other comments on this thread). It’s pretty obvious you don’t like Cain and also that you haven’t heard him on Hannity or elsewhere lately. He said he wasn’t going to endorse ANY individual but rather an idea/movement. He’s still dedicating his efforts toward BHO’s defeat. Herman was forced out and if there’d been truth to these allegations which magically vanished, believe me, the media would certainly have twisted the dagger by reporting it in detail.


70 posted on 01/15/2012 9:02:04 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: magritte
Its apparent the field is breaking up. Time to decide
71 posted on 01/15/2012 9:03:45 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: South40

Pretty vicious, aren’t they?


72 posted on 01/15/2012 9:05:52 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: AmericanInTokyo

If Herman Xain endoses Willie Mitty then hes not the conservative I thought he was...

If he does he can kiss off another run at any office in George as a conservative....

I dont think that his political future is over and I hope its not..

but this would do it


73 posted on 01/15/2012 9:06:00 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: citizen

” The past 12 to 15 times I have seen him on TV, he is about self-promoting and little else.”

Well...there you go. That’s the truth.


74 posted on 01/15/2012 9:06:25 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: AmericanInTokyo

If Herman Cain endoses Willie Mitty then hes not the conservative I thought he was...

If he does he can kiss off another run at any office in George as a conservative....

I dont think that his political future is over and I hope its not..

but this would do it


75 posted on 01/15/2012 9:06:34 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FryingPan101

Never trust an ex-Fed guy...


76 posted on 01/15/2012 9:10:07 PM PST by SteelTrap
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: AmericanInTokyo

“At his own political risk”? He has absolutely NO future in politics. What’s the risk here?


77 posted on 01/15/2012 9:12:30 PM PST by Joann37
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: freespirited

Hannity was fishing for a clue and when he suggested an idea Cain said to him he was getting warm..so wonder what this is all about?


78 posted on 01/15/2012 9:18:37 PM PST by celtic gal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

Heartless
79 posted on 01/15/2012 9:22:44 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: Tennessee Nana

Each one in our own way needs to communicate this to Herman Cain’s post-campaign organization in Atlanta, about Romney. Loud and clear. And believe me, THIS WOULD BE THE WEEK TO DO IT. Just to reinforce things. Trust but verify. He may well have stated that he will not endorse someone specifically, but he could always change his mind. Remember, the day he pulled out of the race, he gave every indication he was staying in, such as speeches by those preceding him toned that he was staying in, opening a “campaign headquarters”, selling Cain 2012 bumper stickers and T shirts.And then, wham!, those of us as his supporters had the wind knocked out of us as he mentioned he was suspending and moving to “Plan B.” We could be surprised on a pre-South Carolina or Florida endorsement stil yet, and mightily so, with a sudden Romney endorsement this week, or next, and I for one am just trying to head that little one possibility off at the pass, so to speak. It think it is prudent to do so. We must work incessantly in our own ways in in our own current or former camps, to deny Romney as much traction as possible out of South Carolina and Florida.


80 posted on 01/15/2012 9:27:27 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Obama Re-elected? Oh well. It's been fun. Take care. See you in the CAMPS....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 75 | View Replies]

To: Joann37

In terms of PAC being forumlated, any other race he could run in at a lower level, endorsement-providing organization, talk show circuit, donations, 501 (c) 3, any and all of the above. This is all politics, not necessarily running for politics oneself anymore. The conservative grassroots spigot for donations would rightly be shut off if there were somehow a Herman Cain - Romney endorsement at this time. Again, with all due respect for him, he really should be aware of the downside to do such a thing at this time.


81 posted on 01/15/2012 9:31:30 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Obama Re-elected? Oh well. It's been fun. Take care. See you in the CAMPS....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: llandres

I like Herman Cain alright—I supported his 999 plan when he was running, and I still think it’s a good idea for tax reform.

I’m just very cynical about this entire race, and the entire political process itself, so the most pessimistic forebodings don’t surprise me in the least.

It’s as if large tracts of the Republican population are under some kind of mass psychosis, like some bad horror flick where everyone is getting bitten by an overrun of MittZombies. So if I see that Cain had turned into one of them… well.


82 posted on 01/15/2012 9:35:22 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: mylife

Look, I really LIKE Perry but it’s not happening for him. It very well could in a different year. People just aren’t forgetting his gaffes (played ad nauseum by the media) and maybe he also rubs the endless Bush haters the wrong way. Regardless, Newt can verbally whip BHO effortlessly and would inherit most of Perry’s votes just as he did Herman’s. And Santorum’s not accomplishing anything positive by staying in, either.

Romney is ahead because the “non-Romney” votes are too divided.


83 posted on 01/15/2012 9:37:49 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: magritte
Most of the Perry supporters I know have NO interest in Newt and even less in Santorum. They will most likely sit out.

I hope that's not true, because if it is it will just reinforce what many thought, based on what has been posted on FR, that the the worst attribute of Perry is his supporters.

84 posted on 01/15/2012 9:42:39 PM PST by Prokopton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: Dysart

Sorry to blow your cork but J.C. Watts is a business as usual politician and as for Mr. Cain, I’m not sure about him although he appears to be an outsider.

If he were to endorse Romney, I would have to say that all of Cain’s talk during the campaign was meaningless and phony.


85 posted on 01/15/2012 9:46:26 PM PST by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: AmericanInTokyo

I hear your argument, AIT.

However, here is mine.

I want to know what a candidate really thinks. For me to do that means that I have to let the candidate engage in his own decision.

That, to me is more valuable than preventing a Romney nomination. If I know that Cain is a Romney supporter and backs him in this crucial race, then that tells me quite a bit about Mr. Cain, doesn’t it?

If Mr. Cain is wobbly, I want to know that now. I would prefer that over writing to him and convincing him that it’s not in his best interests to endorse Romney.

I hope you see where I am going with this. If he wants to endorse Romney - then we should let him go and do it. THEN we make it clear to him, after the endorsement, that he will be taking that walk alone.


86 posted on 01/15/2012 9:48:24 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: magritte

I have heard MANY say their top choices are Newt/Perry or Perry/Newt. And anyone who’d “sit it out” doesn’t realize how life or death for the country this election is. We won’t survive a fully unleashed second term of b. hussein obama. There’ll be no “lessons taught” for “next time”.


87 posted on 01/15/2012 9:54:42 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: Utmost Certainty

I know how you feel.


88 posted on 01/15/2012 10:00:29 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: BenKenobi
I think it is merely a tactical point of difference here. Obviously we are trying to get to the same place.

That is, denying Romney the nomination of the party, just as we now know how disastrous it was to get McCain nominated four years ago and the stuffing beat out of us as a result, because there was not a clear enough distinction between him and Obama, and I think at the end, finally, like Dole (1996) and Bush Sr. (1992), he just did not want to win, I mean really truly want to win. His only true saving grace was Sarah Palin on the ticket.

89 posted on 01/15/2012 10:11:47 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Obama Re-elected? Oh well. It's been fun. Take care. See you in the CAMPS....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 86 | View Replies]

To: AmericanInTokyo

Speaking of which, more effective than a Cain endorsement of Newt, would be a Cain/Palin endorsement of Newt.


90 posted on 01/15/2012 10:19:32 PM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: political1
Thank you. Well done.

In a word: "innoculation"

91 posted on 01/15/2012 10:24:04 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Obama Re-elected? Oh well. It's been fun. Take care. See you in the CAMPS....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: magritte

“They will most likely sit out.”

I would never sit out the election, but if the nominee is Romney or Gingrich I will likely go third party. There is no point in sticking with the GOP when they insist on sending a loser to slaughter. It is time for someone new to enter this race, and they need to do it soon. Palin! Ryan!


92 posted on 01/15/2012 10:25:59 PM PST by Jay Redhawk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: celtic gal
Hannity was fishing for a clue and when he suggested an idea Cain said to him he was getting warm..so wonder what this is all about?

FWIW, this is my best guess; Cain won't endorse a candidate, he'll endorse a concept or idea.

93 posted on 01/15/2012 10:29:36 PM PST by freespirited
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies]

To: AmericanInTokyo

You want to save Cain some face. I understand that. Me, I want to know where he stands. I’d rather he endorsed Romney so that we knew rather then convince him to act otherwise.


94 posted on 01/15/2012 10:33:15 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: Dysart

I believe I could buy and support that combination.


95 posted on 01/15/2012 11:03:42 PM PST by noinfringers2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: BenKenobi

Cain may very well endorse Mitt Romney soon. The reason being that he has to endorse when it might do some good, such as before a major southern primary in SC. Otherwise, an endorsement of Romney later in the day, when the deal for Romney is done, won’t have any weight to it, nor any perks from it. If Cain wants some consideration for a post within a Romney Admin, he’s going to have to act fast to have any credibility with the Romney camp as to his usefulness to it. So, whether it be now or just before FL, I believe those are the only two chances that Cain has to be of any help to Romney and company.

Then again, considering what Cain was accused of, it’s possible none of the conservative candidates really want Cain’s endorsement, although they would probably accept it, just not while standing next to Cain, but only from afar.


96 posted on 01/16/2012 1:16:18 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: BenKenobi

Interesting.


97 posted on 01/16/2012 1:17:28 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Obama Re-elected? Oh well. It's been fun. Take care. See you in the CAMPS....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: mylife
Huntsman endorses Romney, Cain endorses Romney, Bachmann endorses Romney

Relax, every candidate will endorse Romney, when he has the nomination locked up, since at that point, only other choice is Obama.

But I strongly doubt that either Can or Bachmann will endorse anyone, while some more conservative candidates still have some chance.

Bachman and Cain both gave an indirect endorsement to remaining candidates who are more conservative than Romney when they withdrew... Perry should have done the same after Iowa, but has not been able to add 2 and 2 together throughout these primaries...

98 posted on 01/16/2012 1:17:43 AM PST by joe212
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: FryingPan101
So what’s it to you if we get to hear a conservative voice from a successful sitting governor. What’s the problem with hearing the thoughts and ideas from the head of the Republican Governors Association? What is wrong with a candidate staying in as long as he can to present his conservative views? Who says we have to do things the Karl Rove way?

Perry is just not ready. Unlike other candidates (Bachmann, Santorum, Huntsman), Perry did not grow, gain experience, to be more prepared next time around. Perry actually shrunk...

I was actually rooting for him at one point. When he said Social Security was a Ponzi scheme. But he folded on than, and more...

99 posted on 01/16/2012 1:23:46 AM PST by joe212
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: AmericanInTokyo

Cain wants to head a PAC to press tax reform. Which candidate would be most conducive to that goal? The only ones I could think of would be Perry and maybe Paul.


100 posted on 01/16/2012 2:08:10 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-111 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson