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To: Seizethecarp
“This article appears to be a psy-ops propaganda piece generated in a Russian intelligence group using alleged Indian writers dedicated to kissing up to Indians to keep them aligned with Russia.”

A propaganda by definition implies deliberate spreading of false information, doctrines, rumors etc for a political purpose. Is there anything in THIS article that is false information? Surely it cant be a propaganda only because you don't like opinions expressed can it? As far as I know, the facts presented in this article is absolutely 100% correct.

Yes this article does makes the Soviets to be wonderful friends of Indians, which they were. You think that isn't true?

“The Russian military-industrial complex and/or elements of the Indian industrial complex that subcontracts building Russian arms is in desperate competition with the US now that Russian arms are increasingly obsolete relative to US/UK/French/Israeli offerings to the Russians.”

India has arms deals with Russia today far more then anytime in all of cold war history with Soviet/Russia. India has several multi-billion dollar arms deal that includes stealth fighter jets, aircraft carrier, nuclear subs, stealth destroyers, naval fighters jets, medium transport jets, AWACS, aerial refuelers, and hundreds of tanks and fighter upgrade programs. In comparison India's arms purchase from US amounts to only a few transport jets and maritime surveillance planes. That doesn't sound like "desperate competition" to me.

I also read the article on Chuck Yeager. All I can say is its bang on the buck.

17 posted on 01/19/2012 7:05:57 PM PST by ravager
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To: ravager
The problem with this article is the flagrand SPIN.

And the Russian equipment you mention...

“India has arms deals with Russia today far more then anytime in all of cold war history with Soviet/Russia. India has several multi-billion dollar arms deal that includes stealth fighter jets, aircraft carrier, nuclear subs, stealth destroyers, naval fighters jets, medium transport jets, AWACS, aerial refuelers, and hundreds of tanks and fighter upgrade programs.”

...it is all Soviet era crap barely updated.

If the Indians are going to confront the new Chinese weapons R&D (which is now far in excess of the Russians) they are going to need non-Russian Western arms.

China is building a gigantic naval base in Pakistan at Gwadar and Pakistan and China are trying to encircle India.

Consistent the the newly emerging US-India strategic alignment of interests India recently attended a conference with the US, Australia, Japan and the other nations threatened by China's aggressive territorial claims in the South China Sea for a friendly chat...prompting the anti-Australian Darwin US outpost article on this website.

19 posted on 01/19/2012 8:37:45 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: ravager

Today’s Russia is not Soviet Union. India is better off allying itself to the West with whom we share far more in common values, aspirations and world-view than we do with Mafia-run Russia. In fact, I feel that the common Russian people are also better off aligning themselves with the West than the Putinistas who run a fascist regime out there.

While the article may not be “false”, it is still propaganda trying to remind Indians of the good old days of friendship with the Soviet Union when all Russia does to India today is (proverbially) hide substandard goods under shiny boxes (Gorshkov).

Our permanent interests align better today with American ones than with Russian ones.


29 posted on 01/20/2012 2:57:51 AM PST by MimirsWell (Pganini, cmdjing, andyahoo, artaxerces, todd_hall, EdisonOne - counting my Chicom scalps)
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