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Gingrich and Reagan (Newt's repeated personal insults of Reagan and his successful policies)
National Review ^ | January 25, 2012 4:00 A.M. | Elliot Abrams

Posted on 01/25/2012 9:52:02 AM PST by T. Jefferson

In the increasingly rough Republican campaign, no candidate has wrapped himself in the mantle of Ronald Reagan more often than Newt Gingrich. “I worked with President Reagan to change things in Washington,” “we helped defeat the Soviet empire,” and “I helped lead the effort to defeat Communism in the Congress” are typical claims by the former speaker of the House.

The claims are misleading at best. In the Reagan years I was an assistant secretary of state — Mr. Gingrich voted with the president regularly, but equally often spewed insulting rhetoric at Reagan, his top aides, and his policies to defeat Communism. Gingrich was voluble and certain in predicting that Reagan’s policies would fail, and in all of this he was dead wrong.

President Reagan is clearly failing.” Why? This was due partly to “his administration’s weak policies, which are inadequate and will ultimately fail”; partly to CIA, State, and Defense, which “have no strategies to defeat the empire.” “The burden of this failure frankly must be placed first on President Reagan.” Our efforts against the Communists in the Third World were “pathetically incompetent.”

Gingrich’s called Reagan’s meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev “the most dangerous summit for the West since Adolf Hitler met with Neville Chamberlain in Munich.”

Far from becoming a reliable voice for Reagan policy and the struggle against the Soviets, Gingrich took on Reagan and his administration. It appears to be a habit: He did the same to George W. Bush when Bush was making the toughest and most controversial decision of his presidency — the surge in Iraq. Here again Gingrich provided no support for his party’s embattled president, testifying as a private citizen in 2007 that the strategy was “inadequate,” contained “breathtaking” gaps, lacked “synergism” (whatever that means), and was “very disappointing.”

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KEYWORDS: gingrich; reagan; sovietunion; surge; zot
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To: T. Jefferson

Don’t ask NRO about Newt’s Reagan credentials. Ask Reagan Nat’l Security Advisor Bud McFarlane: http://bit.ly/zd9eAF

Don’t ask NRO about Newt’s Reagan credentials. Ask Reagan Economist Art Laffer: http://bit.ly/xEDETi

Don’t ask NRO about Newt’s Reagan credentials. Ask Reagan WH political director Jeffrey Lord: http://bit.ly/zw2ZMb

Don’t ask NRO about Newt’s Reagan credentials. Ask Reagan Policy Analyst Peter Ferrara http://bit.ly/zq1QxI

Don’t ask NRO about Newt’s Reagan bonafides. Ask Reagan media consultant Richard Quinn: http://on.msnbc.com/y2sPM2

Don’t ask NRO about Newt’s Reagan credentials. Ask Reagan’s older son Michael Reagan: http://bit.ly/yYVy7L


41 posted on 01/25/2012 10:51:57 AM PST by Josh Painter ("The only thing these 'investments' will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy." - Palin)
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To: uncbob
“Military leaders and even Margret Thatcher thought Reagan was not taking a hard enough line with the Soviets”

I don't know which “military leaders” you have in mind, but the Joint Chiefs of Staff were well-aware of Reagan's internal NSC directives in the first two years of his administration to take on the Soviets through economic warfare, covert operations, and increased defense spending.

42 posted on 01/25/2012 10:55:52 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: 50mm; darkwing104

IATZot ping


43 posted on 01/25/2012 10:57:49 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Josh Painter

Great job Josh. Everyone should copy and paste your aggregation and post it all over the Net where Romulans are propigating their lies.

It would be great if Ronald Reagan’s other son endorsed Romney. That would be fitting. LOL.


44 posted on 01/25/2012 11:00:47 AM PST by publius321
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To: Thane_Banquo

There is no defense for how Gingrich handled his opposition to Reagan and his policies.

As a Congressman, he knew very well that the President was working with the knowledge of a great deal of classified information to which he, Gingrich, was not privy.

There are ways to voice “concern” and even opposition, while still respecting the President, the leader of your party, and the fact that he, not you, have more information.

Gingrich chose another way. He always has.


45 posted on 01/25/2012 11:09:49 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: Josh Painter

So when I hear Newt say that “the era of Reagan is over” with my own two ears should I stand up and cheer?


46 posted on 01/25/2012 11:10:50 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Timaeus

What specific facts do you dispute in this article?

I understand that you assume the author’s conclusions are biased. Fine. But are or are not the major facts accurately stated?

For example, did Gingrich say the things he is quoted as saying?


47 posted on 01/25/2012 11:11:28 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: nikos1121

Have you not heard or seen the ads Newt is running against Romney? One was so bad that Newt had to take it down because Senator Rubio criticized it.


48 posted on 01/25/2012 11:13:47 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: MissMagnolia

Oh, my. I can’t thank you enough for posting that link! I would have missed the article/thread, and it’s one of the best I’ve seen in days.


49 posted on 01/25/2012 11:13:57 AM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: txrefugee
Eliot Abrams??? How many moldy oldies from the Establishment GOP will come out against Newt this week? Santorum is my candidate, but the way the EGOP is hyperventilating, I’m reconsidering.

Indeed. The smell of sheer terror and desperation coming out of D.C. should cause reasonable people to stop for a minute and wonder why. I've never seen anything like this.

50 posted on 01/25/2012 11:18:36 AM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: Steamburg

What Newt should do is explain that he underestimated Reagan and was dead wrong about him in some areas....”just the way people underestimate me and are dead wrong.”


51 posted on 01/25/2012 11:20:53 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Abrams is the typical, classic Neo-Con. He was a hardcore Leftist (even Communist) who saw the light about Socialism and underwent a conversion. They almost always have blind spots or areas where they retain some weird hybrid theories. You just have to allow them to be wrong some of the time. Reagan did.


52 posted on 01/25/2012 11:25:41 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: T. Jefferson
Who is Abrams trying to fool?

Reagan's staff went nearly appopletic when he insisted on saying, "Mr. Gorbachoff, tear down this wall."

Reagan and Thatcher's charaterization of the USSR as an "evil empire" drew nothing but derision from the media and beltway insiders.

What, exactly, did Mr. Abrams contribute to Reagan's success in this?

Chirp. Chirp.

He suggests Gingrich went against Reagan, but what was the actual criticism?

Thus Gingrich concluded as he surveyed five years of Reagan in power that “we have been losing the struggle with the Soviet empire.”

Reagan would have said so himself!

It was not until Reagan actually visited the USSR that he became convinced he could dismantle their economy by forcing them into an arms race.

Man. I'm getting a real eye-opener on the machinations of the Republican elites and I'm not liking it.

53 posted on 01/25/2012 11:27:45 AM PST by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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To: US Navy Vet

“Has East Coast HACK written ALL over HIM!”

The term usually makes me yawn, but he sounds like the sort that made “neoconservative” a bad name.


54 posted on 01/25/2012 11:29:44 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

“neoconservative” = East Coast HACK


55 posted on 01/25/2012 11:32:31 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: montag813

“Gingrich was 180-degrees wrong. It was a master stroke and huge victory for Reagan.”

It was, but let it be noted partly by accident. Reagan trounced Gorby through his zealous devotion to Star Wars. But if he was at all serious about that “zero option” stuff, it was indeed dangerous.


56 posted on 01/25/2012 11:35:23 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: T. Jefferson

Was newt really the party elite back then, critiquing reagan’s bold moves against Moscow? It’s worth finding that much out. Reagan was onto something.


57 posted on 01/25/2012 11:41:46 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: US Navy Vet

so reagan put this guy in his state department?...so reagan was a fool..is that what you are saying...or does that only matter when he blasts newt....think hard now


58 posted on 01/25/2012 11:47:07 AM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
and reagan put him in his administration....so lets trash reagan to save newt huh...or could it be newt is just another pol trying to have it both ways...ya thats it
59 posted on 01/25/2012 11:50:34 AM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: riverdawg

Read the Book Reagan’s Secret War by Martin Anderson

Tells how he had to fight his military leaders and other conservatives including Thatcher when it came to negotiating nuclear weapons with the Soviets


60 posted on 01/25/2012 11:59:39 AM PST by uncbob
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