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VANITY: Is Mormonism Christian or is it not?
Vanity ^ | 2-10-2012 | Vanity

Posted on 02/10/2012 12:14:55 PM PST by OKSooner

Is it a fair question to ask... Is Mormonism Christian or is it not?

If you care enough to respond and tell me it's not a fair question, please explain why not.


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To: Secret Agent Man
In fact Mormons reject these three creeds. Basically any historical Christian creeds for that matter.

And yet; if you give them each sentence IN the 'creed'; they canNOT find ANYthing wrong with it!

181 posted on 02/12/2012 5:23:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: SZonian
BIG>I guess the question is; Who lied, God or JS?

 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.
 
 

Whatever HAPPENED to Emma???
 
Eliza was a devout Mormon.
At age 38, she became Joseph Smith's 14th plural wife (in addition to Smith's lawful wife, Emma).
In 1842, after learning Eliza was pregnant, Emma Smith beat Eliza with a broomstick and
knocked her down a flight of stairs, causing Eliza to miscarry Smith's baby.
 
Wow!!
 
I guess ol' Emma got VAPORIZED by GOD!!!
 
We know that multiply him thing sure didn't work out!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Joseph_Smith,_Jr.

182 posted on 02/12/2012 5:26:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: SZonian

The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.
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58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.


 

58 Now, as touching the law of the apriesthood, there are many things pertaining thereunto.

59 Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was aAaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that bsent me, and I have endowed him with the ckeys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit dsin, and I will justify him.

60 Let no one, therefore, set on my servant Joseph; for I will justify him; for he shall do the sacrifice which I require at his hands for his transgressions, saith the Lord your God.

61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse aanother, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else.

62 And if he have aten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified.

63 But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to amultiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be bglorified.

64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law.

65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take aHagar to wife.

66 And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen.


183 posted on 02/12/2012 5:27:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ml/nj
Deuteronomy 4:2
Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the L-RD your G-d that I give you. (NIV)

And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present.

Looks like GOD, on the one hand; laid down ALL of the 'law';
while on the other; just let snippets of it dribble out...

184 posted on 02/12/2012 5:30:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: SZonian
I suppose I shouldn’t answer, being an ex-mormon, I’ve already seen attempts to marginalize any response I may give. I’m bound to be considered; “without authority to speak on the matter”, a “moonbat”, a “mormon hater”, etc. but I will anyway.

Just consider the source.

With a screenname like THAT; he OBVIOUSly is channelling Porter Rockwell - famous (infamous?) Danite of the MORMON church.

185 posted on 02/12/2012 5:32:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: airedale
In order to be able to enter the Temples and perform various rites you have to be a member in good standing as determined by your Bishop and the Church leadership.

Self identified??

 

Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

186 posted on 02/12/2012 5:35:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: airedale
They consider themselves Christian...

Yeah; that's what they spout NOW; but it sure as HELL was NOT this way for a hundred or more years!!

187 posted on 02/12/2012 5:37:24 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: fso301
Since you believe doctrine is the matter, you presumably believe that as doctrine pertains to Catholics and Protestants, one is Christian and the other is not.

Now you wouldn't be trying to get the CHRISTIANs fighting among themselves; would you??

The MORMONs will slink away, back into the woodwork.

188 posted on 02/12/2012 5:39:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Did you hear the liberal Willard Mitt Romney call himself a conservative today at CPAC ???

Nana; you HATER!!

He SELF IDENTIFIED himself as a conservative; so that is good enough for me!!

--MormonDude(WAIT! I am NOT pushing ROMNEY!! FORGIVE me, Jim!!!)

189 posted on 02/12/2012 5:41:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Kid wheres the words that the Mormon missionaries say in their “gospel message” ???

More interesting:

Just WHERE, in the BoM, is this FULLNESS to be found?


190 posted on 02/12/2012 5:43:47 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: fso301
Kid?? What a fine Christian example you are. Your command of the English language is also consistent with the level of intellect the left portrays Christians as having.

Hmmmm...

You seem to have OVERLOOKED moonbat.

Any reason for this slipup?

191 posted on 02/12/2012 5:44:55 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
Where did this come from? And why would G-d have to emphasize that He was speaking truthfully?

ML/NJ

192 posted on 02/12/2012 5:48:53 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Elsie

Thks


193 posted on 02/12/2012 6:14:29 AM PST by DownInFlames
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To: Elsie

Hi Elsie,

If you read the Book of Mormon you’ll find that the central message is that Jesus is the Christ, the Savior and Redeemer of the world — just as is taught in the New Testament. If the Bible is a Christian scripture, so is the Book of Mormon.

Regards,

Normandy


194 posted on 02/12/2012 6:17:18 AM PST by Normandy
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To: Elsie

still out there, still cluttering the forum with bigotry, still viewing the world through a bigot filter, still hyping drivel.


195 posted on 02/12/2012 6:19:18 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Elsie

Respectable? You don’t bother anyone, deal honestly, obey the law, and pay your taxes. Any religion where most of the flock does this is usually considered OK.


196 posted on 02/12/2012 6:52:36 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Elsie

Yes, I broadened the thread didn’t I. If you have a problem with that, simply ignore me.


197 posted on 02/12/2012 7:40:45 AM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: Jukeman
Let's broaden it some more, then...

Was Joseph Smith a pedophile? (Seven wives under the age of eighteen, youngest fourteen years old)

198 posted on 02/12/2012 8:38:02 AM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: Elsie

I see you DID have an opinion on this question LOL


199 posted on 02/12/2012 9:05:38 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: Elsie

I see you DID have an opinion on this question LOL


200 posted on 02/12/2012 9:05:44 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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