Posted on 02/21/2012 1:38:32 PM PST by iowamark
For reasons I cannot fathom, she already folded and left the dog with the “new owner”.
I’m thinking a judge wouldn’t award her the win because of that.
I reckon she could press separate criminal charges since custody of the dog seems to now be a moot point.
My coffee is an experience to be had.
—That’s sick and evil.—
I think you meant to respond to a different post. All I said is that I would euthanize my own dog. That has been how it is done in the entire world for the entire history of mankind. Calling that “sick and evil” would be ludicrous.
I suspect this is closer to what really happened. If someone had my pet after I thought it had been put to sleep, I think I'd fight to have it back. This woman didn't seem to put up much of a fight so I'm wondering if maybe she didn't have as much concern for this dog as we do?
I have an agreement with my vet...if someone can't handle a new diagnosis of Feline Diabetes and wants to put their cat down, she's to call me and I will take the cat and treat it. Her office already has one cat with diabetes that belonged to a deployed Marine (with permission). The cat has lived with her for almost a year. I love my vet!
Thanks for the link.
You’re right, Uncle W. wasn’t alone out there — around 200 bodies were recovered.
I just hit your profile. I don’t agree with your position on this, but I now know where you are coming from. ;)
I have a few questions for you:
How do you euthanize your animals?
Do you live in the city or the country?
Why is your way better than having a vet do it? Is it:
Cost?
Fear of looking like a coward?
And how would a person living in the city “dispatch” their oh. say, 12 year old, 100 lb lab? Take it to the country and shoot it in the head and dump it? Feed it antifreeze and watch it suffer? And what would that person do with the body of the animal? Bury a 100lb dog in the backyard? Throw it out with the trash? Or would that go in the recycling? Hmmm...so many questions.
See why a vet + cremation is a logical, humane way to go?
I never said having a vet put an animal down is illogical or inhumane.
In my original response, I was responding to a poster that said the owner of the dog had taken the easy way out by having the dog put down instead of paying the medical bill to try and have it saved.
I simply said I think people that chose to have a vet put their animal down instead of doing it themselves are choosing the easy way out.
Too many people will allow an injured or sick animal to suffer because a vet isn't there to do what needs to be done, instead of doing what needs to be done themselves.
I agree, unless she signed something she isn’t owning up to (that is what I was wondering about—did she give permission). However, the fact that she paid for cremation, if true, pretty much puts that theory out the window. What the vet did is unethical. When someone brings a dog in to you, you are bound to do what they ask you to do. If you are unwilling you tell them, and they take the dog elsewhere.
As for rescues and shelters, some are wonderful, some are not. It’s always hard to know for sure from articles online because everyone has an agenda, but the bottom line is, the vet does appear to have done something that I suspect the AVMA would be most unhappy about. If I were the original owner, if the story really was as she tells it, I would be talking to them.
And you're laboring under the narcissistic delusion that everybody else lives out in the country just like you.
I never said having a vet put an animal down is illogical or inhumane.
No, you said...
Funny, that’s the same way I look at people that take their animal to a vet to get them euthanized. They are getting somebody else to do what they aren’t willing to do.
You also said...
If your dog didn’t mean enough to you that you let a stranger do that to him, then you can bite me.
You can't backpeddle when your posts are easily found on this thread.
Too many people will allow an injured or sick animal to suffer because a vet isn't there to do what needs to be done, instead of doing what needs to be done themselves.
What do you suppose would happen if someone took their Great Dane out in the back yard of Military Family Housing, busted a cap in it's head, and tried to bury it?
Thankfully, I’ve only had to attend the euthanization of 3 animals.
One was my dad’s dog, one was my dog and the other was a pet rat.
_I never signed anything_ in *any* of those instances.
The vet did the deed and I took the bodies home.
There was no ‘release form’ or any other form.
Why sign a “release”?
To absolve him of “malpractice” in case he doesn’t ‘kill your pet good enough’?
Something’s seriously rotten in that vet’s office.
If I were one of his -other- patients and had had an animal put down there in the past, I’d be wondering *where* my “dead” animal really is.
It’s been a very long time since I’ve been thru this, but it seems to me that when I had mine cremated I had to sign something. I am almost positive, of course I also paid in advance and had to go pick them up. Once I picked them up at the vet’s and I think twice I had to drive to the place that did it (one time my dog died at a vet other than my own as it was an emergency early in the morning).
I don’t recall the procedure when I worked for a vet as this was over 20 years ago. To be honest, if someone was leaving a dog to be euthanized, as a vet to protect myself I would have them sign something. I wouldn’t want them coming back later and saying they had not given permission to do it, and believe me people would.
The more I think about it the more sure I am that I signed something that I agreed to allow the vet to euthanize my dogs. I’m sure of it. My last one was 1999.
I”m sorry those 2 posts were a little confusing. I was thinking about cremation and euthanasia at the same time and not being clear. The last 3 dogs I had that died were not all euthanized. The one in 1999 was and I am positive I signed a release to state that I did indeed want the vet to put her to sleep (I was there for it). I think I also signed something for the other 2 that died and we sent to be cremated. I also had to pay in advance for that. Thankfully both of those died without me having to have them put to sleep, one at home after an illness and one on the way to the vet’s. That one was pretty traumatic, but I didn’t have to decide anything. I have to say it has gotten harder and harder over the years to make that decision. I always hope they will die peacefully in their sleep but only one has.
My dad’s dog was in 1981, no papers.
My rat was in 1988, no papers.
My dog was last April, no papers.
3 different vets, as well.
Maybe it’s unique to where I live but I’ve never left a live animal somewhere, expecting it to be killed “later”, either.
All but the one in April have gone on their own, thank God.
Poor Jack back in April is something I’m still “dealing with”.
[and even then, the vet spend a half hour ‘convincing me’...in my heart I knew it was hopeless but I was more than willing to spend whatever it took to keep him alive, if it was even remotely possible. sadly, his kidneys failed suddenly and there was nothing to be done and he was rapidly ‘going toxic’ and suffering...so that was that]
I have no experience with cremation of deceased pets.
They’re all buried.
Well, the one in 1999 had cancer, and her lungs were filled with tumors. Amazingly she had showed ZERO symptoms until that morning when she refused to eat and didn’t want to get up. My husband took her to the vets before work and I went after work to see what the vet said (literally, I thought it would be something minor). The vet showed me her xrays and her lungs were literally filled with masses. It was cancer from breast tumors we had removed a couple of years before and thought had all been gone.
She went from running around the back yard to barely able to stand in 24 hours. I couldn’t let her go on like that.
I suppose I could have dragged her to a specialist in Dallas and tried chemo, if she could have lived long enough to go thru treatments. But she was in such bad shape, I really didn’t think she would make it long enough for me to get her into see someone. I wish she had shown symptoms early enough to do something, but she didn’t. On the other hand, she had a couple of years of wonderful life. She was one of those happy dogs who always made everyone else happy. All of my dogs have a song that I associate with them. Hers was Have I told you Lately by Van Morrison because she really did fill my heart with gladness. Sorry to go on, you made me think about her.
That’s exactly how Jack went.
From the day I got him when he was 5 months old to the day he died at 14, I -never- saw that dog sick or unhappy.
He was, in fact, deliriously happy _all the time_, even when there wasn’t really anything to be happy about, let alone wildly overjoyed.
[I think maybe he was a bit ‘simple’ like that]...:]
I went to bed one night and he was his usual exuberant self and the next morning I let everybody out to pee and he *was not happy*.
My heart sank.
Then he went up to where his beloved sister is buried, stepped over the low fence and stood on her grave....and would not budge.
He just stared at me.
I imagine he was trying to get a point across that I wouldn’t have accepted, had he phrased it any more subtly.
It was his time, he knew it and he chose a morbidly obvious way to make sure *I* knew it, too.
He’s buried beside her, now.
[His ‘song’ would’ve been Mack The Knife. we called him “Jack The Ripper” after all the stuff he destroyed when he was a kid...crazy, silly, funny dog]
LOL I knew there was a reason I liked you! :)
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