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Question: Can Obama issue mass pardons to illegal aliens and register them to vote?
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Posted on 03/06/2012 2:30:17 PM PST by SoFloFreeper

I have been wondering if the worst President ever would try something like this. Presidents have the power to pardon...if issued millions of full pardons, could the illegals then register them to vote.

Thoughts?


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To: SoFloFreeper

They’d need to be in the criminal system first. But then they’d still be committing a crime once they got out, since they are still illegals, so no, not likely. Otherwise, simply serving jailtime would gain them citizenship. Now that’d be a deal.


21 posted on 03/06/2012 3:01:23 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Amnesty, if it were given, is not citizenship. If the amnestied illegals were allowed to vote, it would be absolutely no different from their voting now. It would be illegal but that wouldn’t prevent some Dems for trying it.


22 posted on 03/06/2012 3:04:22 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: SoFloFreeper

Uh... You need a basic civics lesson in who can and who cannot vote in U.S. elections.


23 posted on 03/06/2012 3:08:14 PM PST by newzjunkey (Santorum: 18-point loss, voted for Sotomayor, proposed $550M on top of $900M Amtrak budget...)
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To: SnakeDoctor
I did a quick review of my Great-Grandfather's private records 1921 - 1932 when he was Pardon Attorney for the US.

His extracts show that each application for pardon was individually reviewed by his office with individual recommendations forwarded through the Justice Department to the White House. The annual requests for pardons, commutations, and respites had two high points, 1925 and 1929 when almost 1,800 such cases were worked on.

Do I think Obama will attempt massed Presidential pardons? After the robosigning scandal on home mortgages I wouldn't put it pass him.

24 posted on 03/06/2012 3:11:09 PM PST by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I have contemplated a similar scenario. He issues mass pardons to non-white inmates and recuits them into his “civilian defense force” literally as they walk out of prison. If he offered enough compensation, many would jump at the chance to get even with whitey. Would this be legal? Wound anyone in power try to stop it?


25 posted on 03/06/2012 3:11:33 PM PST by matt1234 (Bring back the HUAC.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

They would still be on violation of the law. Moreover, pardons are issued after adjudication.


26 posted on 03/06/2012 3:22:21 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: slumber1

“He can do anything he wants and if you don’t like it you’re a racist.”

Bingo. Someone who gets it.


27 posted on 03/06/2012 3:36:05 PM PST by Kratos
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To: matt1234

Never thought of that....very scary indeed.


28 posted on 03/06/2012 4:07:04 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
There are no constraints upon the pardon power granted to the President in the Constitution. No requirement for the pardonee to be in the criminal system, no authority to Congress to constrain the power in any way. Obama could issue an Executive Order to enable blanket pardons and that would be that. Only Impeachment could blunt the power and there would be an argument over whether that clause meant a President under Impeachment could not issue pardons or that a President could not pardon someone being Impeached.

Double jeopardy would take care of any idea that one minute past pardon the "immigrant" would be illegal again. That said, the Constitution does not grant the president the ability to naturalize immigrants so he could not confer the voting franchise upon the new residents.

Consider Carter's blanket amnesty for the Vietnam draft dodgers.

IANL

29 posted on 03/06/2012 5:42:57 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Limbaugh: Tim Tebow miracle: "He had atheists praying to God that he would lose.")
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To: SoFloFreeper; All
It's a moot point.

Illegals already vote, by the millions.

They are an integral part of the democrat voter base, along with all of those on the plantation of welfare.

Millions more.

The dems give more money to deadbeat unwed mothers, the “homeless” fathers via SSI etc and then of course they vote the dems back in. Vicious circle.

Motor voter was a program to get illegals voting rights.

Just before Clinton left office and Gore was running against Bush, he sent out 10’s of thousands of forms to illegal aliens which “proved” they were registered to vote. That's how Gore almost stole the election back then.

Yup, pardons are not necessary, the plan is in motion.

And of course, the brain dead GOP thinks they can get the illegal voting block to pull the lever for them, so they don't fight against voter fraud.

The only hope is the Tea Party Movement.

30 posted on 03/06/2012 8:26:11 PM PST by Syncro (So? -Andrew Brietbart [1969-2012] RIP King of The New Media)
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