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Genetic Studies of Modern Populations Show Varying Neandertal Ancestry
Popular Archaeology ^ | 3-12-2012

Posted on 03/20/2012 4:55:36 AM PDT by Renfield

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To: varmintman
Vendramini's reconstructions are consistent with the DNA evidence:

And what is your evidence that Vendramini's opinions about the DNA are more valid than my postman's? Looking for his educational credentials just turns up that he's a "self educated scholar".

41 posted on 03/20/2012 10:48:57 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625
Abraham Lincoln's educational credentials were roughly similar. For that matter it's all the clowns with the PHD degrees who've made all the errors in logic on this subject and for that matter failed to see something which a child should have been able to see early on and which Vendramini finally DID see:


Image courtesy of www.themandus.org

42 posted on 03/20/2012 11:01:48 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: Vanders9

When it comes to DNA any difference whatsoever is IMPORTANT and SIGNIFCANT.

Otherwise you might really be mistaken for a chimpanzee or gorilla.


43 posted on 03/20/2012 12:37:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: varmintman

Fire becomes exceedingly dangerous. That’s why human beings DO NOT HAVE FUR COATS. You gots to be a hot momma to get one of them ya’ know.


44 posted on 03/20/2012 12:40:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: eCSMaster; Einherjar
The entire lesson is that it is the mother's responsibility to get husbands for her daughters. If she fails she will turn to stone (or some other hard substance) and her husband will end up sleeping with her daughters.

So, in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah we find an original rule handed down by God to the daughters of men ~ the rest of the story is comedic relief and instruction in the pitfalls that can occur to the unwary.

She let Lot take her to a town full of gay guys. Well, right there's the end of that tale. Next thing you know they're all fleeing for their lives to get away from God's fury.

I bet you somebody out there thinks the gay guys are the focus of the story ~ and not the moral obligation of the woman to tend to her daughters needs so that the generations of men may be long on the Earth.

Well, there you go ~ Gloria Steinhem would understand this one.

45 posted on 03/20/2012 12:48:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PapaBear3625

“In other words, there are distinct genetic differences between African and non-African populations, and these differences include genes that affect IQ. The researchers better be prepared to be burned at the stake once these findings are absorbed by the general public. “

I read “The Bell Curve” shortly after it came out. Highly documented, shows black average IQ of 85.

There are significant differences in physical types, so why not mental types?

Conservatives knew all along that being Neanderthal would turn out to be a good thing!!


46 posted on 03/20/2012 12:51:19 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
It will take a while to convince all of them. Some of them believe that Leftwingtard line about Neanderthals being dumb brutes.

Right now it looks like they may be responsible for a 40pt IQ advantage for the Chinese, and a bit less of an advantage for Europeans.

47 posted on 03/20/2012 3:00:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Very slight small men mainly from East Africa have dominated long distance running, and I believe they have a physical advantage.

More muscular blacks have dominated sprints, again I believe in part due to physical advantage. (Increasingly also evident in basketball, football, soccer (futbol) and to some extent even baseball.)

Fortunately sports are free of “affirmative action” and therefore we can readily make these observations.

Similar to physical capabilities, I believe the same racial differences are very likely in mental capabilites, in spite of liberal-feel-good objections.

Thomas Sowell even objects, and I sympathize with his desire that it not be so, but he alone doesn’t convince me.


48 posted on 03/20/2012 5:17:37 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
The little guys who dominate long distance running ALL come from highland areas that abut Kilamanjaro Volcano ~ during the last Ice Age that mountain was covered with glaciers. Those highlands were well watered with melting ice, and had a temperate climate.

People lived there.

They had to develop the characteristics needed to survive in an alpine climate. Those are the little guys.

If you follow cross country skiing, that's dominated by Sa'ami, all well adapted to subarctic climate conditions! They have a high incidence of dwarfism albeit not that you'd notice, and there are people who will beat you up for saying anything about it!

49 posted on 03/20/2012 5:29:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
When it comes to DNA any difference whatsoever is IMPORTANT and SIGNIFCANT.

Only if the variation is PROVEN to be a result of Neanderthal DNA, which it hasnt been. Saying that 1% to 3% of some DNA marker is shared by Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens is meaningless if the DNA marker in question exists in the Homo Sapiens population at an equal or higher rate anyway, which it might very well do.

They need more research and bigger sample sizes before they can draw conclusions like this.

50 posted on 03/20/2012 5:30:58 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9
You really do need to read back through that part of the discussion ~ seriously.

Modern humans differ very little from one another when it comes to genes. Our biggest differences seem to be a consequence of epigenetics ~

51 posted on 03/20/2012 5:35:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Vanders9

btw, Neanderthals are classified as “Homo sapiens neanderthalensis” and you and I are probably classified as “Homo sapiens sapiens” ~ in the same genus.


52 posted on 03/20/2012 5:42:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“The little guys who dominate long distance running ALL come from highland areas that abut Kilamanjaro Volcano ~ during the last Ice Age that mountain was covered with glaciers. Those highlands were well watered with melting ice, and had a temperate climate.
People lived there.

They had to develop the characteristics needed to survive in an alpine climate. Those are the little guys.

If you follow cross country skiing, that’s dominated by Sa’ami, all well adapted to subarctic climate conditions! They have a high incidence of dwarfism albeit not that you’d notice, and there are people who will beat you up for saying anything about it!”

Might have a trace of laplander blood myself (via Sweden). Compact body, short libs (to avoid heat loss, etc).

I ran several marathons, some under 3 hours with a wrestler’s build—good long distance endurance.


53 posted on 03/20/2012 5:50:29 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
You definitely understand.

Last winter olympics there were three kinds of skiers in the cross country ~ Laps(Sa'ami), Norse, and Others.

One of the "Others", a German guy, kept up pretty well with the Sa'ami until he overheated toward the end. They crushed him.

I watched guys going UPHILL 55 MPH in that race ~ at the end.

That's how humans were able to hunt the Arctic/subarctic regions' fastest animal ~ the Reindeer.

They could ski up hill, then come downhill at the animals MUCH faster than they could escape. You do that for a few hundred years and you can undercut the biological support system for the big cats, bears and wolves.

54 posted on 03/20/2012 6:42:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: varmintman

Once again, that’s not what Neanderthals looked like.


55 posted on 03/20/2012 8:54:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: varmintman

Vendramini doesn’t have a reconstruction, he’s got a full-blown free-form fantasy. He’ll probably be able to option it for a picture, maybe to Bollywood.

That really crude giant fake nostrils pic was also on some ‘blog in Australia.


56 posted on 03/20/2012 8:56:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: truth_seeker; muawiyah; PapaBear3625

:’) Thanks!


57 posted on 03/20/2012 9:02:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield. For those who miss Wendy1946, who got banned late last year and no one told me (found out by accident a few weeks back), we've got another ranter about Neandertal.
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


58 posted on 03/20/2012 9:02:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: muawiyah

Renee Zellweger is part lap/Saami.


59 posted on 03/20/2012 9:03:50 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: SunkenCiv
That really crude giant fake nostrils pic was also on some ‘blog in Australia.

Wow. Aussies must have really big fingers!

60 posted on 03/20/2012 9:19:20 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1155 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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