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1 posted on 04/19/2012 1:19:31 PM PDT by Libertynotfree
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cell phone proliferaiton is “linked” to bees’ deaths also. There are a lot of correlations. EPA will ban ALL pesticides instead of only the one (?) that is causing harm. Last I heard they had not started to narrow down what the problem was. They even tried to blame it on global warming.


2 posted on 04/19/2012 1:26:05 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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Asking EPA to ban something is a bad idea.
Ever heard of unintended consequences?
They will be all to happy to regulate, and make things worse and more expensive in the process.
Next they will go after bee keepers.
I'm sure they're using something that's bad in someones book.

3 posted on 04/19/2012 1:31:54 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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There was a rash of miscarrahges of thoroughbred colts in Blue Greass Country, which became a huge financial loss (stud fees lost etc.). They finally narrowed it down to a worm on the grass, and a pesticide (yes, the “p” word) had to be used to save horse racing.

http://articles.latimes.com/2001/may/13/news/mn-62850

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=98568&page=1

(articles written before they found the precise cause)


4 posted on 04/19/2012 1:35:54 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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I just did some light reseach on clothianidin.

Guess what? It is a chemical that protects the active pesticide, nicotine, from degrating in the environment. But that is not neccessarily the cause of the death of bees. Nicotine kills bees too apparently.

Solution if the “bee keepers” get their way for the farmers? Spray the less technological stuff about 4x as often at about 3x the cost. Now, what does all that pesticide do when we cook those goodies they are trying to protect and eat them?

Oh yea! This is not about humans so the argument is not valid.

I didn’t do any in depth research. But, as I understand it, the reason this pesticide kills bees so effectively is because it kills all insects so effectively. It keeps the active ingredient protectected from....get this....THE AFFECTS OF THE ENVIRONMENT.


7 posted on 04/19/2012 1:40:03 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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Maybe you'd change your minds about saving the bees if you saw this:


8 posted on 04/19/2012 1:44:55 PM PDT by chopperman
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Honeybee colonies are mysteriously collapsing all around they country. In the face of encroachment by the Africanized bees, this must be stopped. If this pesticide is a cause, a replacement must be found.
9 posted on 04/19/2012 1:48:19 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (The only flaw is that America doesn't recognize Cyber's omniscience. -- sergeantdave)
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If the EPA and the enviroMENTAL movement were consistent they would move to eradicate the Bee used by most Commercial Beekeepers being they are not native to North America.


10 posted on 04/19/2012 1:49:32 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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The rural area I live in is on/near the river and lake-no chemical pesticides can be used because of the risk of poisoning groundwater consumed by humans and livestock.
The organic stuff works just fine, and smells better, too. And we have plenty of bees here-one of my neighbors sells organic honey. Bees are an absolute necessity to crop production, stings and all.


11 posted on 04/19/2012 1:50:57 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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Fracking is bad for bees. Ban it.

So are coal-fired power plants. Ban them.

Backyard BBQ’s may kill bees. Ban them.


12 posted on 04/19/2012 2:01:19 PM PDT by PGR88
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