[Sacajaweau]

I don’t believe it is expanding. I beieve it is undulating

[the invisib1e hand]

a- is where Obama was elected.

[dfwgator]

“In the beginning, God created the Universe. This made many people upset and was generally regarded a bad move.” - Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

[pricilla]

my head hurts...

[Son-Joshua]

This is too complicated for me. I’ll just believe that God created the universe and ask him to explain the dynamics of creation when I see him.

[windcliff]

ping

[Noumenon]

r instance, one idea is that the universe is cyclical with big bangs followed by big crunches followed by big bangs in an infinite cycle.

Or something else.

[OldNavyVet]

There are three certainties in this.

The Infinite exists.

Reality exists.

And all that exists now defines a temporal, non-eternal, limited time touch of Reality.

[caveat emptor]

mathematical properties of eternity

[varmintman]

I'll say it again... Logic is the most major tool which God has given us for understanding our world. If a science claim or theory cannot pass a simple test for basic logic, the claim of theory is junk science.

"Big Bang" is bad science and bad theology rolled into a package. Having the entire mass of the universe collapsed to a point would be the mother of all black holes, nothing would ever "bang" its way out of that.

Likewise for a supposedly omnipotent and omniscient God to suddenly determine that it would be cool or necessary to create a universe at a particular point in time while the idea had never occurred to him previously is clearly unworkable and is not compatible with anybody's system of logic. It doesn't even matter whether this supposed creation was 6000 years ago as per Bishop Usher or 17B years ago as per the evolosers and big-bangers.

In real life, the RNA/DNA code which is the basis of meaningful life has to be the work of a single pair of hands; the physical universe logically has to be eternal like God; the creation stories we read in ancient literature have to refer to the creation of our own local environment, and not to the creation of the universe.

[battousai]

The Big Bang has become part of popular culture since the phrase was coined by the maverick physicist Fred Hoyle in the 1940s.

Got to love how they don't mention the Catholic priest Georges Lemaitre who actually came up with the theory, Hoyle's term 'big bang' was in fact said in derision because he thought the universe having a beginning sounded too religious.

[Starstruck]

In infinity there is no such thing as time. It just is.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

Maybe some genius scientist out there can help me reconcile the Big Bang theory against Newton’s First Law of Physics.

I’m an old fart so I’ll term it the way we used to say it, “An object at rest will stay at rest and an object in motion will stay in motion, unless acted on by a force”.

So if the universe had a beginning, and all of the mass in the universe was collected in one body at rest, what set it in motion?

If this is true, and it may well be, what more possible proof do you need for God?

The object at rest could not possibly have been set into motion unless God set it into motion.

I wonder how the athiest scientists would respond to that?

[Gay State Conservative]

If there's a clock there's a clock maker.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

I suspect the correct question is not “When did the universe begin?”, but “when did time-space begin?”

Time-space can be imagined as an ‘x’ and a ‘y’ axis on a graph. But you *must* have both a multiplicand and a multiplier to get a product. That is, if you have time, but zero space, the universe does not exist. Or if you have space, but zero time, the universe does not exist. Only when you have both does the universe come into being.

And as Einstein showed, when mass-energy is put into time-space, it distorts the product of time-space in a third, or ‘z’ axis, perpendicular to both ‘x’ and ‘y’.

So until this point, until time and space and mass-energy interact, there is no universe.

[Intolerant in NJ]

Since the observational evidence is that our universe is expanding, then it must also have been born in the past...and its parents were???.....

[SuziQ]

Big Bang ping!

[krogers58]

What happens when gravity overcomes the force of the big bang and the universe begins to collapse? Will it collapse until it becomes so small that it explodes again?

[<1/1,000,000th%]

However, Hoyle much preferred a different model of the cosmos: a steady state universe with no beginning or end, that stretches infinitely into the past and the future. That idea never really took off.

This actually was the predominant theory from Aristotle's time until the 1950's, except among those of us who believe Genesis. Only about 2500 years or so.