Skip to comments.Two reasons why Obama screwed up on Gay Marriage (vanity)
Posted on 05/10/2012 5:43:37 PM PDT by Signalman
1. I was listening to the Hugh Hewitt show a few hours ago and a guy called in, a medical employee at a hospital. He said that he happened to be checking out two Black patients in different rooms who had no connection to each other. Both of them had family members visiting them. In both situations, the subject of Obama approving gay marriage came up and in both cases, the family members were irate and said they were going to "stay home" on election day. Sure, it's anecdotal but it could be significant. Blacks have a higher rate of opposition to gay marriage than any other ethnic group.
2. A recent poll in the state of Ohio showed that a whopping 62 percent of voters OPPOSED gay marriage. In a closely fought state swing state like Ohio, which Obama badly needs, this could make quite a difference in the outcome.
I think Obama made, politically, a huge mistake.
True, a little proof or anecdotal evidence:
Blcak voters in North Carolina supported Amendment 1 by 2 to 1 margin. Link: http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/10/black-voters-in-nc-supported-amendment-one-by-2-1-margin/
Yes, Obama clearly has jumped the shark....AGAIN.
He is intentionally pushing the envelope. It is almost like he believes there is no way he will be removed.
Obama was going to be outed by his homo Hollyweird donors if he didn’t do what he did. It was blackmail, democrat style.
Agreed. I was visiting online with some friends last night, several of whom are black. One said that this was a “tangible reason” for blacks to not vote for Obama. He said they probably won’t vote for Romney, but they won’t turn out for Obama in nearly the numbers they did in 2008.
“...Obama was going to be outed by his homo Hollyweird donors if he didnt do what he did. It was blackmail, democrat style.”
I agree. EVERYTHING he does is either for money and/or votes. And when it comes to America, he only does things TO America, never FOR America.
I don’t see any way it can help him. Anyone with those beliefs were already voting for him anyway. The only thing it can do is drive some voters away.
Wonder what Biden’s role really was? Planned? If so, by Obama or was it an inside hit job?
And I agree as well. A good friend of mine (happens to be African-American) told me that blacks really resent the way gays constantly compare themselves to the civil rights movement of the 1950’s and 60’s. Blacks view that as THEIR struggle, rightly so in my opinion, and they do not care for the way a bunch of privilged white folks of bad moral character are highjacking the civil right legacy for their dubious purposes.
Two calculations went into his coming out. 1. He believed that it wouldn’t cost him many votes. He figures it will be a non-issue by November and 2. Money.
0bama needed some stash.
And Sasha and Malia told him so.
EXACTLY. One of my friends mentioned that. Many Blacks correctly view the civil rights struggle on moral grounds - you can’t discriminate on the basis of how God made you - and they don’t think that God creates homosexuality. They view it as a choice and they do NOT like having that mantle assumed by gays.
Oh....I think you are absolutely correct....it is the Chicago Way. Homosexuals are desperate to get all their Marxists in place to program and condition children in the schools into thinking up is down-—evil is good. As soon as zero is out, the homosexual promoting school czar who loves boys having sex with old men, will definitely be booted—and with him the pro-sick curricula.
Everyone should get their kids out of public schools until the homosexuals can not indoctrinate and sexualize children. Hold Jerry Brown for sexualization of your children and force him to get the Marxist’s Sex Education OUT of the schools and arrest his buddy producers who were sodomizing the Corey boys at their orgies. Maybe Brown is exactly like his idol—John Maynard Keynes who was using little boys at his homosexual orgies. The Hollywood gang are Satanic worshipers-—homosexuality is their connection to excrement—and a life giving force....it is what they do at their altars. Better yet-—destroy DOE—it is all so unconstitutional on ALL levels.
Homosexual “Rights” is absurd-—the right to put your organ in a disgusting place is “love”. Ya—Right.....that is soooooooo logical.....the basis of our Constitution in the “Age of Reason”. How reasonable to make little boys think sodomy is good......great idea........for a Afghanistan like worldview for the boys-—who are in harems for the use of the old men.
Longer term, a Jewish friend of mine said he may just have blown florida with the independent Jews. Interesting thought.
Thought when I first heard it a comment made in a discussion years ago by a friend who joked about her permanent tan. She said (in the late seventies) when another friend argued that one day the conservative democrats in the south and the mid-western conservative republicans would merge. She said way back then that someday a religious issue would trigger the Christian African Americans to join with them.....Has the time come: The uniting of three conservative facets creating a “New political party”?
OTOH BO and MO only know what REV Wright has told them....acceptance of all things liberal.
Both Soetoro and Mittens are Liberals. Won’t hurt Barry at all.
How many gay marriage laws have been passed by voters?
Obama blew this one big time.
Well said; bump.
From the point of view of his campaign calendar, the homosexual marriage move creates progressive buzz from now to Memorial Day. Then from June 1 to June 30, he needs buzz from another non-economic issue — say education. Then after June 30, the Supreme Court decision will resurrect the Obamacare issue. That will reboot Obama’s 2008 campaign and give Romney a big headache.
It pays to look at the entire game plan, not just individual set pieces.
Has it occurred to anyone that he was so brazen about it because they plan on stealing the election anyway?
The gay marriage meme is a distraction from the pathetic economy. Poor “Tom” can’t afford to marry “Bob”!
He’s not pushing the envelope.
He’s distracting everyone from what a communist he is.
Everything is planned...There are no accidents in politics...accidents and disclosures are planned!
Of course the ‘Biden gaffe’ was planned. He HAD to come out for gay marriage, even tho he really didn’t want to, because Biden MADE him do it (always looks for someone else to blame). Now he wants to lie low and not make it an issue. He gets to be ‘pro gay marriage’ to those who know he meant it, and ‘against gay marriage’ to those who consider him a victim of Biden’s (proven) incompetence and that, perhaps, he didn’t really mean it but was forced to say it.
Crap. obummer is for fag fornication and calling it "gay marriage" and mittens is against it.
If you can't see any difference on this issue, your romney hatred is blinding you.
I knew obama was a fag, but blowing all of Florida?
Wow, that's a job for monica.
Perhaps he has help from the dark side.
Clearly Obama thinks that blacks will back him no matter what.
In fact, one of the biggest lines of bullsh*t lately has been that he’s been avoiding coming “out of the closet” on this because he’s feared the effect on Independents.
Think what one likes about gay “marriage” or the mushy middle, those are not the people whose reaction Obama feared. It was black religious voters, and to a lesser extent Hispanics.
Well, he’s done a calculation, eyes on the financial line it seems, and he’s said “they’ll stick with me anyway”.
Black Americans, that’s what Obama thinks. He thinks he can do nothing to improve your lot, put a stick in your eye to please white hollywood and other rich, liberal, white people, and you’ll still show up to vote for him in droves.
Oh, yeah, and hey, black people, Barack Obama is only 1/2 black....and.....he ate a dog!
WRONG. Obama won...because we’re not talking about the economy.
Get a grip. It's May.
IMO, it's actually better to not get people burned out with "economy" talk. There will be plenty of that in a few months.
And anyway, people are experiencing and despairing the crappy Ubama economy on their own, without having to be told, unlike when the economy is thriving under a Republican president and the Democrats and their newsrooms relentlessly harp about how bad the economy is until some people actually believe the economy must indeed be bad - - for other people they don't know.
“Crap. obummer is for fag fornication and calling it “gay marriage” and mittens is against it.”
Romney was governor of a state that passed gay marriage.
Romney, just yesterday, stated that he was in favor of gay’s adopting children.
How can gays adopt children if they are not in some sort of legally recognized relationship?
Now, please tell me the difference between Obama’s and Romney’s stance on gay marriage.
That works for me.
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