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Two reasons why Obama screwed up on Gay Marriage (vanity)
Self | 5/10/2012 | Sefl

Posted on 05/10/2012 5:43:37 PM PDT by Signalman

1. I was listening to the Hugh Hewitt show a few hours ago and a guy called in, a medical employee at a hospital. He said that he happened to be checking out two Black patients in different rooms who had no connection to each other. Both of them had family members visiting them. In both situations, the subject of Obama approving gay marriage came up and in both cases, the family members were irate and said they were going to "stay home" on election day. Sure, it's anecdotal but it could be significant. Blacks have a higher rate of opposition to gay marriage than any other ethnic group.

2. A recent poll in the state of Ohio showed that a whopping 62 percent of voters OPPOSED gay marriage. In a closely fought state swing state like Ohio, which Obama badly needs, this could make quite a difference in the outcome.

I think Obama made, politically, a huge mistake.


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1 posted on 05/10/2012 5:43:43 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

True, a little proof or anecdotal evidence:

Blcak voters in North Carolina supported Amendment 1 by 2 to 1 margin. Link: http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/10/black-voters-in-nc-supported-amendment-one-by-2-1-margin/


2 posted on 05/10/2012 5:51:05 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: Signalman

Yes, Obama clearly has jumped the shark....AGAIN.


3 posted on 05/10/2012 5:51:15 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Signalman
The problem is that there is little separation between Romney's and Obama’s policy on gay marriage
4 posted on 05/10/2012 5:54:16 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Signalman

He is intentionally pushing the envelope. It is almost like he believes there is no way he will be removed.


5 posted on 05/10/2012 5:55:07 PM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: EagleUSA

Obama was going to be outed by his homo Hollyweird donors if he didn’t do what he did. It was blackmail, democrat style.


6 posted on 05/10/2012 5:55:14 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Signalman

Agreed. I was visiting online with some friends last night, several of whom are black. One said that this was a “tangible reason” for blacks to not vote for Obama. He said they probably won’t vote for Romney, but they won’t turn out for Obama in nearly the numbers they did in 2008.


7 posted on 05/10/2012 5:59:45 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Jimmy Carter's incompetence + Richard Nixon's paranoia = Barack Obama)
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To: jimbo123

“...Obama was going to be outed by his homo Hollyweird donors if he didn’t do what he did. It was blackmail, democrat style.”

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I agree. EVERYTHING he does is either for money and/or votes. And when it comes to America, he only does things TO America, never FOR America.


8 posted on 05/10/2012 6:00:51 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Signalman

I don’t see any way it can help him. Anyone with those beliefs were already voting for him anyway. The only thing it can do is drive some voters away.


9 posted on 05/10/2012 6:01:12 PM PDT by nodumbblonde ("The ladder of success is best climbed by stepping on the rungs of opportunity." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Signalman
I think Obama made, politically, a huge mistake.

Obama's biggest vulnerability is the economy, which continues to stagger toward oblivion. Anything which gets attention off economic matters helps Obama - that's why Obama started this latest little dust-up in the culture wars with his views on a subject the POTUS has no authority over. And it's working - the headlines and pundits are all busy talking about gay marriage instead of the latest round of appalling jobs numbers.
10 posted on 05/10/2012 6:01:19 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Signalman

Wonder what Biden’s role really was? Planned? If so, by Obama or was it an inside hit job?


11 posted on 05/10/2012 6:05:12 PM PDT by IamConservative (Shall I try and perhaps fail or shall I do nothing without fail?)
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To: TexasNative2000

And I agree as well. A good friend of mine (happens to be African-American) told me that blacks really resent the way gays constantly compare themselves to the civil rights movement of the 1950’s and 60’s. Blacks view that as THEIR struggle, rightly so in my opinion, and they do not care for the way a bunch of privilged white folks of bad moral character are highjacking the civil right legacy for their dubious purposes.


12 posted on 05/10/2012 6:05:44 PM PDT by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: Signalman

Two calculations went into his coming out. 1. He believed that it wouldn’t cost him many votes. He figures it will be a non-issue by November and 2. Money.


13 posted on 05/10/2012 6:06:30 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Signalman
To know how badly this idiot stepped in it, just remember that CA approved Prop 8 with the wholehearted support of blacks. In fact, I know a popular black televangelist pastor who was scorned by libs because he helped lead the fight against homosexual marriage.
14 posted on 05/10/2012 6:08:00 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Signalman

0bama needed some stash.


15 posted on 05/10/2012 6:08:35 PM PDT by A message
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To: A message

And Sasha and Malia told him so.


16 posted on 05/10/2012 6:12:04 PM PDT by A message
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To: Martin Tell

EXACTLY. One of my friends mentioned that. Many Blacks correctly view the civil rights struggle on moral grounds - you can’t discriminate on the basis of how God made you - and they don’t think that God creates homosexuality. They view it as a choice and they do NOT like having that mantle assumed by gays.


17 posted on 05/10/2012 6:12:11 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Jimmy Carter's incompetence + Richard Nixon's paranoia = Barack Obama)
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To: jimbo123

Oh....I think you are absolutely correct....it is the Chicago Way. Homosexuals are desperate to get all their Marxists in place to program and condition children in the schools into thinking up is down-—evil is good. As soon as zero is out, the homosexual promoting school czar who loves boys having sex with old men, will definitely be booted—and with him the pro-sick curricula.

Everyone should get their kids out of public schools until the homosexuals can not indoctrinate and sexualize children. Hold Jerry Brown for sexualization of your children and force him to get the Marxist’s Sex Education OUT of the schools and arrest his buddy producers who were sodomizing the Corey boys at their orgies. Maybe Brown is exactly like his idol—John Maynard Keynes who was using little boys at his homosexual orgies. The Hollywood gang are Satanic worshipers-—homosexuality is their connection to excrement—and a life giving force....it is what they do at their altars. Better yet-—destroy DOE—it is all so unconstitutional on ALL levels.

Homosexual “Rights” is absurd-—the right to put your organ in a disgusting place is “love”. Ya—Right.....that is soooooooo logical.....the basis of our Constitution in the “Age of Reason”. How reasonable to make little boys think sodomy is good......great idea........for a Afghanistan like worldview for the boys-—who are in harems for the use of the old men.


18 posted on 05/10/2012 6:17:48 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: LS
"this idiot stepped in it"

Longer term, a Jewish friend of mine said he may just have blown florida with the independent Jews. Interesting thought.

19 posted on 05/10/2012 6:17:52 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Any Republican. Just NO Obama.)
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To: Martin Tell

Thought when I first heard it a comment made in a discussion years ago by a friend who joked about her permanent tan. She said (in the late seventies) when another friend argued that one day the conservative democrats in the south and the mid-western conservative republicans would merge. She said way back then that someday a religious issue would trigger the Christian African Americans to join with them.....Has the time come: The uniting of three conservative facets creating a “New political party”?

OTOH BO and MO only know what REV Wright has told them....acceptance of all things liberal.


20 posted on 05/10/2012 6:20:48 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Signalman

Both Soetoro and Mittens are Liberals. Won’t hurt Barry at all.


21 posted on 05/10/2012 6:23:43 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: VRWC For Truth

How many gay marriage laws have been passed by voters?

Zero.

Obama blew this one big time.


22 posted on 05/10/2012 6:28:49 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: savagesusie

Well said; bump.


23 posted on 05/10/2012 6:41:12 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: TheRhinelander

From the point of view of his campaign calendar, the homosexual marriage move creates progressive buzz from now to Memorial Day. Then from June 1 to June 30, he needs buzz from another non-economic issue — say education. Then after June 30, the Supreme Court decision will resurrect the Obamacare issue. That will reboot Obama’s 2008 campaign and give Romney a big headache.

It pays to look at the entire game plan, not just individual set pieces.


24 posted on 05/10/2012 6:48:37 PM PDT by qwertyz
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To: TheRhinelander

Has it occurred to anyone that he was so brazen about it because they plan on stealing the election anyway?


25 posted on 05/10/2012 7:00:28 PM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: Signalman

The gay marriage meme is a distraction from the pathetic economy. Poor “Tom” can’t afford to marry “Bob”!


26 posted on 05/10/2012 7:08:54 PM PDT by LA Woman3
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To: Signalman


This will not play well at the Church of What's Happening Now.
27 posted on 05/10/2012 7:37:44 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: kosciusko51

He’s not pushing the envelope.

He’s distracting everyone from what a communist he is.


28 posted on 05/10/2012 7:39:17 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy)
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To: Signalman

Everything is planned...There are no accidents in politics...accidents and disclosures are planned!


29 posted on 05/10/2012 7:40:22 PM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: IamConservative

Of course the ‘Biden gaffe’ was planned. He HAD to come out for gay marriage, even tho he really didn’t want to, because Biden MADE him do it (always looks for someone else to blame). Now he wants to lie low and not make it an issue. He gets to be ‘pro gay marriage’ to those who know he meant it, and ‘against gay marriage’ to those who consider him a victim of Biden’s (proven) incompetence and that, perhaps, he didn’t really mean it but was forced to say it.


30 posted on 05/10/2012 8:00:41 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: Uncle Slayton
The problem is that there is little separation between Romney's and Obama’s policy on gay marriage

Crap. obummer is for fag fornication and calling it "gay marriage" and mittens is against it.

If you can't see any difference on this issue, your romney hatred is blinding you.

31 posted on 05/10/2012 8:30:42 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: AGreatPer
friend of mine said he may just have blown florida

I knew obama was a fag, but blowing all of Florida?

Wow, that's a job for monica.

32 posted on 05/10/2012 8:38:26 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: kosciusko51

Perhaps he has help from the dark side.


33 posted on 05/10/2012 8:53:02 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Signalman

Clearly Obama thinks that blacks will back him no matter what.

In fact, one of the biggest lines of bullsh*t lately has been that he’s been avoiding coming “out of the closet” on this because he’s feared the effect on Independents.

Think what one likes about gay “marriage” or the mushy middle, those are not the people whose reaction Obama feared. It was black religious voters, and to a lesser extent Hispanics.

Well, he’s done a calculation, eyes on the financial line it seems, and he’s said “they’ll stick with me anyway”.

Black Americans, that’s what Obama thinks. He thinks he can do nothing to improve your lot, put a stick in your eye to please white hollywood and other rich, liberal, white people, and you’ll still show up to vote for him in droves.

Oh, yeah, and hey, black people, Barack Obama is only 1/2 black....and.....he ate a dog!


34 posted on 05/10/2012 9:02:46 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Signalman
Blacks have a higher rate of opposition to gay marriage than any other ethnic group...details are a bit hazy by now, but I watched C-Span coverage a month or so ago of a seminar of black conservatives in Washington sponsored by Rep. Allen West - one of the invited participants was the chairman of the Black Congressional Caucus who was surprisingly - to me anyway - gracious and open in most of his comments - if I recall correctly the conversation turned to where blacks on both the left and right might reach compromise, and this black congressman said flatly that this would never happen with gay marriage, that black churchmen in particular were so opposed to this that they would never fully endorse or accept it in their churches - there may be a lot of Obama's most dedicated voters who just won't turn out this November because of this move - or as Rush's parody said today "Stand with me in support of President Obama - trade poor black votes for rich gay money"......
35 posted on 05/10/2012 9:08:29 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Signalman

WRONG. Obama won...because we’re not talking about the economy.


36 posted on 05/10/2012 9:22:41 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Signalman

Good points.


37 posted on 05/10/2012 9:24:22 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: montag813
WRONG. Obama won...because we’re not talking about the economy.

Get a grip. It's May.
IMO, it's actually better to not get people burned out with "economy" talk. There will be plenty of that in a few months.
And anyway, people are experiencing and despairing the crappy Ubama economy on their own, without having to be told, unlike when the economy is thriving under a Republican president and the Democrats and their newsrooms relentlessly harp about how bad the economy is until some people actually believe the economy must indeed be bad - - for other people they don't know.

38 posted on 05/10/2012 9:31:37 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: USS Alaska

“Crap. obummer is for fag fornication and calling it “gay marriage” and mittens is against it.”

Romney was governor of a state that passed gay marriage.

Romney, just yesterday, stated that he was in favor of gay’s adopting children.

How can gays adopt children if they are not in some sort of legally recognized relationship?

Now, please tell me the difference between Obama’s and Romney’s stance on gay marriage.


39 posted on 05/11/2012 10:06:34 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: TexasNative2000
He said they probably won’t vote for Romney, but they won’t turn out for Obama in nearly the numbers they did in 2008.

That works for me.

40 posted on 05/11/2012 7:51:49 PM PDT by SuziQ
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