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From Astronaut-Hero To Space-Trucker: The Human Spin on Space Commercialization
Forbes ^ | 05/17/12 | Bruce Dorminey

Posted on 05/17/2012 6:11:59 PM PDT by KevinDavis

The cast of “Alien,” in Ridley Scott’s 1979 sci-fi blockbuster, may actually be more akin to future space-farers than our citizen heroes from NASA’s Apollo era. After all, the film presents a view of space travel that is based as much on economics as wanderlust and this is arguably as it should be.

How can anyone forget the hangdog eyes of Harry Dean Stanton, who so clearly is out that far in space solely for the cash? The crew of the Nostromo, the film’s ore-carrying cargo vessel under threat from a ravenous extraterrestrial, inherently understands that sometimes great profit only comes with great risk.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: space
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1 posted on 05/17/2012 6:12:11 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 05/17/2012 6:13:54 PM PDT by KevinDavis (The birther movement was started by a 9/11 truther..)
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To: KevinDavis

Watching the Top Gear rerun of the episode where James May drove the moon buggy that will never go to the moon. He sounded about as sad about the whole affair as you or I am.


3 posted on 05/17/2012 6:16:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: KevinDavis

I suspect most freighters will be mostly autonomous.


4 posted on 05/17/2012 6:18:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Interstellar travel is an impossible fantasy.


5 posted on 05/17/2012 6:20:33 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cripplecreek

It is damned sad what has become of our space (er muslim outreach & feelgood) program.

It will be private enterprise that will get people back in space. How much gov-co will fight and regulate them is a big x factor, I would bet on heavily.


6 posted on 05/17/2012 6:22:25 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: central_va

If they go too far they’ll fall of the edge of the solar system.


7 posted on 05/17/2012 6:22:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: central_va

http://www.cracked.com/article_18547_6-reasons-space-travel-will-always-suck.html

Language warning.


8 posted on 05/17/2012 6:24:01 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: wally_bert
How much gov-co will fight and regulate them is a big x factor, I would bet on heavily.

I've got concerns about the international space and moon treaties but I'm happy to see some forging ahead to confront that wall.
9 posted on 05/17/2012 6:25:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

THe Laws of physics says we will never leave here.


10 posted on 05/17/2012 6:25:35 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: KevinDavis

Good point here.

BTW: There were some things I didn’t get about that movie. Why did the computer look like something out of 1975 and there was a futuristic android too?? Was the vessel so old that it by far predates the androids?


11 posted on 05/17/2012 6:32:39 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: central_va

I don’t see anything in physics that won’t allow interstellar trips. The time scales are another matter if you’re talking about sending people.

The Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket (VASIMR) is technically feasible and has worked in small scale testing both here on earth and on the space station. Its believed that an interstellar trip to Alpha Centauri could be made in around 50 years.


12 posted on 05/17/2012 6:38:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

I have seen several shows with James May discussing an American technological achievement; the man gets a lump in his throat. When he speaks of the Apollo Program, he borders on the emotional.


13 posted on 05/17/2012 6:39:54 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: central_va
Interstellar travel is an impossible fantasy.

Since we have a probe in interstellar space (past the heliosphere) right now, I'd say that your statement might be bound by the facts, and a limited understanding of the current acceleration of technology.

No one is going to jump on an interstellar liner next year, but to say that it is an impossible fantasy is akin to:

"To place a man in a multi-stage rocket and project him into the controlling gravitational field of the moon where the passengers can make scientific observations, perhaps land alive, and then return to earth--all that constitutes a wild dream worthy of Jules Verne. I am bold enough to say that such a man-made voyage will never occur regardless of all future advances."

-- Lee deForest, American radio pioneer and inventor of the vacuum tube, 1957

/johnny

14 posted on 05/17/2012 6:56:04 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Army Air Corps
When he speaks of the Apollo Program, he borders on the emotional.

Just like many of us, he has memories of his parents letting him stay up at night to watch what was the ultimate pinnacle of human achievement. He also understands that we don't do more, largely for political reasons.
15 posted on 05/17/2012 6:56:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

lets be ridiculous and pretend it is possible to go faster than the speed of light. Any man made craft going at that speed hitting something as small as a grain of rice would explode like a nuclear bomb.


16 posted on 05/17/2012 6:57:04 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va; All

Never say never... Luddites like you have always been proven wrong.


17 posted on 05/17/2012 7:05:41 PM PDT by KevinDavis (The birther movement was started by a 9/11 truther..)
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To: central_va
"There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be obtainable. It would mean the atom would have to be shattered at will."

-- Albert Einstein, German-born American physicist, 1932

It's always dangerous to say something is impossible.

/johnny

18 posted on 05/17/2012 7:06:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Without boring you here is the reason:

E=MC2

To a layman what this means Energy (E) = Mass(M) X Speed of Light squared, so it would an infinite amount of energy to get anything with any mass at all (meaning everything that exists from space ships to mole crap) going anywhere near the speed of light. Get it? INFINITE Energy (there is no such thing, never will or can be such a thing).

19 posted on 05/17/2012 7:07:58 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: KevinDavis

Luddites like me have actually studied physics and got an A.


20 posted on 05/17/2012 7:09:39 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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