Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

To: Paleo Conservative
The Saratoga (CV-3) was capable of 33 knots. Only the Iowa Class of battleships were capable of keeping up with the carrier fleet.

The first carriers were battleships WITHOUT their fighting superstructure. No? No big guns, no massive belt and deck armour, would result in a lighter ship with the same power plants. Add planes and support materiel, it probably still results in a lighter OAW. No wonder they were faster.

The Iowa class ships were all the more impressive.

81 posted on 06/14/2012 3:15:42 PM PDT by nonsporting
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies ]


To: nonsporting
The first carriers were battleships WITHOUT their fighting superstructure. No?

No.

The Lexington and Saratoga were converted from incomplete battlecruiser (CC) hulls, after the class was cancelled under the terms of the Naval Treaty. Battlecruisers were big-gun ships that sacrificed the armor of Battleships for speed. Great in concept, but between Jutland and HMS Hood seen as not so good in practice.

The Lexingtons' speed as CVs was the same as it would have been had they been completed as intended as CCs.

The pre-WWII "fast battleship" classes of North Carolina and South Dakotas had top speeds in the high-20 knots. They could not keep up with the CVs at flank speed, but the CVs rarely operated (at least continuously) at flank. So despite their "slower" speed the six BBs of those two classes ended up performing yeoman service as anti-aircraft escorts for the fleet carriers.

Even during the "Battle of Bull's Run" during Leyte Gulf, when Halsey went charging off after the Japanese decoy carriers, he kept the "slower" fast-BBs with him. The result was the famous "WHERE IS RPT WHERE IS TASK FORCE THIRTY FOUR RR THE WORLD WONDERS" message from Nimitz, wondering where TF34, centered on the Battleships Washington, Alabama, Iowa and New Jersey, was.
82 posted on 06/14/2012 4:35:21 PM PDT by tanknetter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies ]

To: nonsporting
The first carriers were battleships WITHOUT their fighting superstructure. No?

The first US carrier was the Langley (CV-1) was a converted collier (coal refueling ship). The Lexington (CV-2) and Saratoga (CV-3) were converted from battlecruiser hulls after the naval conferences in the 1920s. Battlecruisers had the same large guns as battleships, but they sacrificed armor protection to gain speed. They couldn't take hits from comparably armed enemy ships.

84 posted on 06/14/2012 5:32:59 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson