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One Well-Paying American Industry Can't Find Enough People To Hire (No College degree required)
Business Insider ^ | 06/25/2012 | Sam Ro

Posted on 06/25/2012 11:40:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The U.S. economy can't function unless goods get from point A to B.

That's why we have air carriers like FedEx, railroaders like CSX, and truckers like J.B. Hunt.

Truckers are a crucial component in this equation because a plane or train can't exactly back into the loading dock of the local grocery store.

Unfortunately, America can't seem to find enough people to fill the cabs of their 18-wheelers.

USA Today's Paul Davidson reports:

A worsening shortage of truck drivers is pushing up freight rates and delaying some deliveries, defying the weak economy, high unemployment and falling gasoline prices.

Davidson identifies a few reasons why we can't seem to higher enough truckers:

* training costs are high and typically lasts weeks

* minimum age is 21 years

* safety ratings are horrible, causing the screening process to be stringent

However, the shortage is causing pay in the industry to rise. According to a consultant in Davidson's story, the average drivers' annual salary has increased 5 percent year-over-year to $50,000.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: jobs; trucking
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1 posted on 06/25/2012 11:40:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 06/25/2012 11:41:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where I live in central KY I saw a billboard seeking truck drivers. It advertized $60k a year plus benefits. That is huge in a land where if you make $10 an hour you are doing pretty good.

The cost of living is so low here I’ve thought about it. It’s sure easier than my current job, and I love driving. Still, it would be a huge cut.


3 posted on 06/25/2012 11:43:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SeekAndFind

when I ‘retire’ I am going to do this

i think long-haul trucking would let me see the country AND listen to conservative radio all day long my two favorite things

If only Rush was available on Satellite


4 posted on 06/25/2012 11:43:33 AM PDT by Mr. K (I AM WRITING-IN PALIN/GINGRICH)
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To: SeekAndFind

Truckers also get abused by their employers who demand that they obey speed limits while giving them delivery deadlines that require both speeding and skipping breaks and required sleep breaks. Thus there’s a huge turnover in the industry because not even immigrants are willing to work under such abusive conditions.


5 posted on 06/25/2012 11:44:02 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: Mr. K

Rush is on so many stations I can’t imagine you’d have trouble getting him on terrestrial darn near anywhere.

Is there a Rush radio app for smartphone?


6 posted on 06/25/2012 11:47:09 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: SeekAndFind

Great that those industries are hiring...but with trucking...they scared off so many with the NAFTA mandated, Bush supported, Obama approved Mexican Truckers Program...allowing Mexican trucks to go all over the US (instead of a 75 mi radius from the border).

This has been big talk among truckers for years...and it has scared many into leaving the industry

Dump the Mexican Trcuks rule, and trucking industry will hire again


7 posted on 06/25/2012 11:47:09 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When I said "close the borders", I did not mean the bookstore chain)
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To: SeekAndFind

1) it’s real work (which is SOOOOO 20th. Century!)

2) it’s getting harder and harder to find people who aren’t strung out on Crack, Smack, Bath Salts, Angel Dust, Roofies, Meth, Acid or Marijuana who can actually obtain a CDL.


8 posted on 06/25/2012 11:47:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

They need to “higher” a proofreader!


9 posted on 06/25/2012 11:48:34 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Mr. K
If only Rush was available on Satellite

streaming cellular for voice will only become more affordable. If you have a wifi device (e.g. iPhone, iPod Touch) you can download the podcasts at truckstops.
10 posted on 06/25/2012 11:48:48 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("You forget, it isn't who you claim, but instead, who claims you. We don't claim you!")
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To: Mr. K
If only Rush was available on Satellite

You can get him on iHeart Radio. No need for SiriusXM.

11 posted on 06/25/2012 11:48:48 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: SeekAndFind

What isn’t mentioned is that it’s a young man’s game.

The percentage of men over 45, who can “safely” drive with minimal sleep, WITHOUT DRUGS, is low!


12 posted on 06/25/2012 11:48:58 AM PDT by G Larry (There's no hope of a safe landing when you hire a suicidal pilot!)
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To: nascarnation
Is there a Rush radio app for smartphone?

IHeartRadio, the Clear Channel app, has lots and lots of Rush stations on it.
13 posted on 06/25/2012 11:49:18 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t forget about all the Obama trucking regulations and an economy in the depths of a depression and the fluctuating fuel prices.


14 posted on 06/25/2012 11:50:26 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: SeekAndFind
Pimping for Mexican truck drivers. After all the EPA gave grants of $1600.00 per truck Additional benefit is destroying another source of income for that pesky independent middle clas.
15 posted on 06/25/2012 11:50:26 AM PDT by khelus
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To: SeekAndFind

My guy drives his ‘18 wheels of justice’ and loves the job but hates the endless new rules and regulations.

The comment regarding the laws of how long one can drive vs the delivery time demands of the company, is 100% accurate and sheer insanity.


16 posted on 06/25/2012 11:52:39 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good. Let the free market determine the salaries for truck drivers. It is often grueling and lifestyle-limiting work.


17 posted on 06/25/2012 11:52:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Mr. K

I think Rush is on in every radio market in the nation (over 300 of them) and has more than 1 affiliate in many areas

Some radio stations in the west and midwest have flamethrower stations that can be heard for 100s of miles during the day, and a lot of those are Rush stations

Gosh, even in Canada you can pick up Rush US stations easily...esp close to the border

With the terrestrial coverage he has...Rush needs no satellite. He is on everywhere

I would love to drive trucks, because I naturally like to drive. But vision problems recently may prevent a trucking future for me


18 posted on 06/25/2012 11:55:03 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When I said "close the borders", I did not mean the bookstore chain)
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To: SeekAndFind

$50,000 isn’t enough for many of these youngins...like the Occupy guy Sean Hannity interviewed sometime back. He wouldn’t take a job for less than $100,000.


19 posted on 06/25/2012 11:55:36 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
They need to “higher” a proofreader!

I was going to say the same thing until I saw your post.

20 posted on 06/25/2012 11:56:12 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: MeganC

I stopped driving because the company stopped giving me long hauls where I could actually make some money. What killed it was FedEx pushing for GPS in every truck. Now there’s no way to cheat the log book. And that’s the only way you can make a decent living.


21 posted on 06/25/2012 11:58:00 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: MeganC

I work in the Trucking Industry. Drivers are sometimes “abused” by their employers, but no more than any other sector of the job market. As far as “speeding”, few (if any) carriers have their trucks set for going anything past 65mph. The penalties for “skipping breaks” is very high for both Drivers and the companies they work for. Any Driver who is breaking his Hours of Service regulations is taking their job in their hands, as the company will not tolerate it. Every company I have worked for dispatches their trucks at 48mph, meaning they only expect the Driver to move 480 miles in 10 hours.
The biggest reason there is a shortage of Drivers is very simple, low pay. If you had to support TWO households, what would it take for you to live on? Even living on the cheap out on the road will cost you $20 a day minimum (if you don’t smoke). The advertisements for “$60,000 a year” are for a Driver that never goes home. Drivers today expect to be home every couple of weeks, and will spend 3 or 4 days off when they are home.
The physical impact of Driving over the road is one of the least considered aspects of the job. Never sleeping at the same time every day, never eating at the same time (not to mention the poor diet choices), and the sedentary lifetsyle are killers. In all my years in this industry, its very rare to see a Driver who could be considered healthy. And forget about the hype about “seeing the country”. If it isn’t within 50 yards or so of the highway or truckstop you won’t see it. And your schedule rarely permits you the time to stop and see anything even if that place has truck parking.
Most Trucking companies consider themselves lucky to have a less than 100% turnover rate yearly, Drivers are always changing companies, it has been that way for as long as I can remember. Company loyalty is not a concept Drivers understand, and I will agree that few companies take any measures to cultivate it.


22 posted on 06/25/2012 11:59:12 AM PDT by Widows Son (Semper Fi!)
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To: Mr. K

“when I ‘retire’ I am going to do this”
Unfortunately at that time “the spirit may be willing but the flesh may not”. Just sayin.


23 posted on 06/25/2012 12:00:17 PM PDT by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: MeganC

“Thus there’s a huge turnover in the industry because not even immigrants are willing to work under such abusive conditions”

I’ve heard the same thing for the past several years from drivers themselves.


24 posted on 06/25/2012 12:03:45 PM PDT by MCF
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To: MeganC

Plus, drug tests ~ with the proliferation of drugs more and more young people are writing themselves right out of this occupation.


25 posted on 06/25/2012 12:04:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cuban leaf
It’s sure easier than my current job, and I love driving.

I thought (briefly) about this too, but I bet what truckers have to go through on a normal basis would be enough to quash any romanticism about the occupation. Driving a big rig is not like "setting cruise control and heading down Route 66..."

Think about lugging a tandem trailer through 18 miles of a bumper-to-bumper construction zone, or navigating said tandem trailer through winter conditions in Utah, Colorado, Tennessee, or eastern Pennsylvania, for example. Even the same route, several times per week--even in good weather-- through the Great Plains would bore me to tears after a short while.

I remember that Karl Malone, shortly after he retired from basketball, moved to a truck-driving career. IIRC, he chose very selective routes (those in which he had an interest in driving), and then added a premium for his name recognition. That'd be the way to go.

26 posted on 06/25/2012 12:05:12 PM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a filibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Good catch.


27 posted on 06/25/2012 12:05:44 PM PDT by lysie
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To: SeekAndFind
As the operator of a fleet of over 40 tractor trailers, I call BS on a large percentage of this story. Drivers are abundant, drivers with common sense and a quality centric mindset are a rare commodity. A lot of the driver training schools are turning out guys who are not even capable of successfully backing a rig up to a dock.

No new driver is going to make anywhere near $50k / year. You would have to run the wheels right off of the truck in order to make that much while being paid a per mile rate, with no compensation for wait time at loading and unloading (which, at times, costs you half of your available work hours). The cost of living on the road is not low, nor do most drivers understand how to manage their money effectively to insure that they don't p&ss away their earnings.

Artificially low freight rates prevent fleet owners from paying what the profession truly warrants. Combined with, literally, millions of pages of regulations, it is neither an easy way nor an assured way to earn much of a living anymore. This is a shame, I love the industry and the challenges it brings.

28 posted on 06/25/2012 12:09:42 PM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Widows Son

This is all very interesting stuff. Good post.


29 posted on 06/25/2012 12:10:02 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Terry Mross
What killed it was FedEx pushing for GPS in every truck. Now there’s no way to cheat the log book. And that’s the only way you can make a decent living.

GPS enabled electronic logs are now a requirement for all trucks - smaller fleets have until mid-next year to undertake the expense of installing them. I just plunked down over $200k to comply with my fleet.

30 posted on 06/25/2012 12:13:33 PM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, I have truckers in my family and as a career, it’s not for everybody-—very dangerous (particularly going up and down the Rockies) and frustrating dealing with all the rules, regulations, and LEOs on the highways.


31 posted on 06/25/2012 12:14:28 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is also a shortage of farmers, truck mechanics, welders, plumbers, electricians.

I know companies all hiring for above - they can’t keep people. If you can pass a drug test, show up to work on time, use common sense and work hard, you will be employed.


32 posted on 06/25/2012 12:15:15 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: nascarnation

600+ stations still leaves HUGE holes..

I just got home from Montana... More than once I hit seek on the radio and it just went round and round on the dial.

rush does have pod casts.


33 posted on 06/25/2012 12:16:11 PM PDT by cableguymn (If your policies are pushing the economy in to headwinds.. TURN YOUR POLICY AROUND!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Unfortunately, America can't seem to find enough people to fill the cabs of their 18-wheelers.

When the pay and working conditions equal the work and time required they will have plenty of drivers. The Free Market proves this every day.

34 posted on 06/25/2012 12:18:40 PM PDT by RJL (There's no greed like the greed of a liberal politician buying votes with your money.)
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To: MeganC

The comments below the article are very interesting. Worth reading.


35 posted on 06/25/2012 12:18:47 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: MeganC

Yeah, most people outside the industry have no clue about what’s going on in it. The government played a big part in creating one more job “Americans won’t do”.

Diabetes? Not gonna be a truck driver.
High blood pressure? Not gonna be a truck driver.
Trouble sleeping? Not gonna be a truck diver.

People think $60 thousand is decent money but its not so much when you pay to live on the road and at home. It comes down to minimum wage type money spread over far more hours away from home. I have a friend who quit diving and became a cargo pilot because it was less restrictive than trucking.


36 posted on 06/25/2012 12:21:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: G Larry

I’ve been a CDL holder for almost 10 years.

You are wrong.

Read up on the laws/rules regulating how many hours a driver can drive,how long they can be “in service” before he has to take a 10 hour or 36 hour rest. Commonly known as hours of service.

Your mandated by law to get 10 hours of rest or more per day. Granted, someone could use that time to do things other than sleep but those drivers don’t last long at all.

and there are TONS of truckers well over 45 that are some of the safest drivers on the road.

you don’t last long in trucking if your an unsafe driver. Companies kick you to the curb if your unsafe their insurance companies demand it. Your driving record and other records warn others.


37 posted on 06/25/2012 12:22:47 PM PDT by cableguymn (If your policies are pushing the economy in to headwinds.. TURN YOUR POLICY AROUND!)
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To: fatnotlazy

“$50,000 isn’t enough for many of these youngins...like the Occupy guy Sean Hannity interviewed sometime back. He wouldn’t take a job for less than $100,000.”

Yep, and Obama represents the boomer crowd! Thanks boomers! Doing a great job to help America.

I’d be thrilled to drive a truck. I’ve applied, been turned down before. It’s a tough economy, and if they can’t find drivers, chances are because they are unwilling to train the folks who are willing to work.


38 posted on 06/25/2012 12:27:32 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: PGR88

“I know companies all hiring for above - they can’t keep people. If you can pass a drug test, show up to work on time, use common sense and work hard, you will be employed.”

Hahahaha, maybe 20 years ago. Not so now. :(


39 posted on 06/25/2012 12:30:08 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

The comment regarding the laws of how long one can drive vs the delivery time demands of the company, is 100% accurate and sheer insanity.


I came from the expedited freight industry. I have done both Over the road and local (courier) work. As the title indicates, it’s time sensitive freight needed asap. It’s very easy to over come the “impossible” delivery requirements with team drivers (two licensed drivers in the truck) one drives, one sleeps. They can literally run 24/7 for 5 days.

If a team is not available to run the load they can cross dock it if it’s a straight truck load (switch it from a driver who is out of hours to one that just woke up) or if it’s a trailer load, they can drop and hook it (switch tractors/drivers).

They ONLY time a expedited load can become a problem is if a driver can not deliver it on time traveling at posted speed limits. (IE 60 MPH speed limit, 120 miles to delivery point, 90 minutes to do the delivery)


40 posted on 06/25/2012 12:30:08 PM PDT by cableguymn (If your policies are pushing the economy in to headwinds.. TURN YOUR POLICY AROUND!)
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To: PGR88

On your farmer comment this year we didn’t have *any* Mexicans come by looking for work on the ranch and instead had some guys from Poland hire on. Each one of these Polish guys is ten times the worker of any of the Mexicans and we’re paying them $20 an hour now to keep them on all summer and because it’s still cheaper than hiring a bunch of Mexicans.


41 posted on 06/25/2012 12:30:17 PM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d do it but I get headaches and blurred vision at times which is not a good thing if you have to drive a lot.

Trucking is a great job in some ways and an awful job in some ways. If you can handle the sedentary nature, the isolation and the constant tension of knowing at any moment some idiot my jump their vehicle in front of yours leaving you no room to break or avoid collision, trucking may be for you.


42 posted on 06/25/2012 12:33:04 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: nascarnation

I just use my TuneIn Radio app and stream Rush from my normal station. The pro version also allows you to set a timer for recording in case you can’t listen live.


43 posted on 06/25/2012 12:37:37 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: cableguymn

Since I am not the one driving the truck, I can’t speak to all your points. However, I am fully aware of the team driving aspect and my guy’s company do not have that option.
The biggest issue he runs into regarding delivery time vs mandatory non-driving times, is the freakin unions!

Case in point, he has been sitting at a site ALL morning waiting to be unloaded, steel, when it’s his turn the union crew announce it’s lunch time and off they go.

The expected arrival time for his next appointment will not be met, so do tell, how does a driver accommodate this without monkeying with the books?!!


44 posted on 06/25/2012 12:40:29 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Interesting, I am a ‘boomer’ and assure you, barry does NOT represent me nor does he work towards my interests.

I’d say you are misreading the tea leaves - he has the youth (or had at least) vote in his hip pocket.


45 posted on 06/25/2012 12:42:01 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: PGR88; JCBreckenridge

There is also a shortage of farmers, truck mechanics, welders, plumbers, electricians.


With the exception of farmers (only because I don’t know if any thing is needed) you have not seen the requirements for all of the above jobs have you?

Lets touch on electricians shall we..

In Minnesota you need a 3 year degree to be a “power limited” electrician. Basically this will cover low voltage items. Computer networks, cable tv, door bells, CCTV, alarm systems...

a 3 year degree. Just to hook up a door bell button.

(this is the field I am currently in. computer networking support and repair)

How long do you have to go to school or work in the field to become a master electrician? A long.. long.. damn time.

Even a truck mechanic. Just because you have a box of tools.. Do you know how to fix the truck? Off to school you go. 2-4 years.

When I first started off in the automotive field I was a oil change/tire boy... Still needed tools and if I remember right, I got a buck more than minimum wage. it was 6 years later I got my ASE Master Tech certification. I also went to 2 years of schooling.

Welding is a learned skill. You can go to school or learn the trade. You won’t get hired today with no skills.

Plumbers require just as much training as electricians.

You have to do much more than simply pee in a cup, show up on time and use your head to do these jobs.

if nothing is required to farm your still have to know what your doing. I doubt you can just plant a corn seed and wait a while to harvest it.

You actually also have to know what your doing.


46 posted on 06/25/2012 12:44:40 PM PDT by cableguymn (If your policies are pushing the economy in to headwinds.. TURN YOUR POLICY AROUND!)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I dealt with unions when I was in a truck. The worst of them. The auto workers..

I know the feeling.

Here is what I told dispatchers when the next drop was going to be late.

“your yelling at the wrong guy. Call the dock master. He’s the one holding up the show”

It’s not the drivers fault he got stuck at a drop because the union did this, or someone did that. It is DISPATCHES responsibility to take in to account delivery delays and route/plan accordingly.

But it’s much easier for them to just blame it on the driver. This I understand.


47 posted on 06/25/2012 12:49:04 PM PDT by cableguymn (If your policies are pushing the economy in to headwinds.. TURN YOUR POLICY AROUND!)
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To: MeganC

“Truckers also get abused by their employers who demand that they obey speed limits while giving them delivery deadlines that require both speeding and skipping breaks...”

You are 100 percent correct. This is the problem.


48 posted on 06/25/2012 12:50:03 PM PDT by bella1 (As it was in the days of Lot.....)
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To: SeekAndFind

If I could back a trailer worth a darn...


49 posted on 06/25/2012 12:52:57 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: cableguymn

All true and those steps are without a doubt what takes place.

It’s a chain reaction that begins with humans who don’t give a care - just my take on it - I hear this stuff daily!

But, without a doubt the rules have grown far tighter.


50 posted on 06/25/2012 12:52:57 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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