Posted on 07/15/2012 6:21:31 AM PDT by reaganator
I know many people in their 40's, 50's 60's taking college courses, some for many years after being on unemployment, after being released from prison, attempting recovery for drug addiction, any number of situations. With the nation approaching $16 Trillion in debt I wonder and have many questions about this. Seems they can continue a $1500 a year nicotine habit or spend in other nonessential areas and it does not matter. A man in his mid-50's told me, "If they are going to give it to me, I'm going to take it." He's been taking college courses for at least 3 years now. He is a outspoken conservative. I believe the Democrats' goal is to get as many people dependent on government in any form, through government employment, welfare assistance, the increase in Social Security disability receipients, medical care, education assitance this often compels people to vote Democrat. I suspect this is a payback to Education for their support of Obama. Do any of you also see a sudden increase in the people you know receiving funds from the federal government to take college course and live on while they do so? I really don't know how to word the questions I have, any info on this would be helpful.
A 57 year old man mentioned to me something called a “low income education grant”. Is there such a thing? I don’t know if he was joking. I know this man, he supports a nicotine habit, has a $20,000+ Harley Davidson. Why, if a person wanted to take college courses would they allow the federal government to pay their way when they could alter their behaviour or sell some personal property and pay their own way? I never hear this question raised!
Is this a touchy subject with many?
I heard a couple guys talking about this same thing at the V.A. a while back.
With our nation nearing $16 Trillion in debt during an election year I want to know more about this. There must be some freepers receiving federal assistance with college courses, please enlighten us.
What were they saying at the VA. “Why are so many people who are not veterans getting GI Bill style college grants?”
I am planning to go back and get my MBA starting this fall. I did have a way to pay for it all worked out (out of commissions), but I lost my job this last week. The courses will be in the evening and weekend, so they will not impact my ability to work. My first priority right now is to get another job, and once that is done, then figure out how to pay for the schooling (which is about $10K/quarter). “Aid” for graduate degrees is pretty much limited to student loans, and even with student loans I could not cover 100% of the cost. Right now, I am believeing that God will open doors for me that will enable me to pay for this out of cash flow.
I am a recipient of a a chemical engineering degree from a world renowned university. My degree mostly came by way of the G.I. Bill for WWII service. I believe that the G.I. Bill was the start of the stampede for colleges/universities to make money with the mantra that everyone needs such level of education to better themselves and so contribute to the societal good. When I look back on my university days I wonder and am bewildered that I could have had the opportunity for such an education at so little cost which included out-of-state tuition and the professors a number of whom were Nobel Prize winners. I remember the awe I had for the structures on the campus. What I see today is bloated administrative costs especially salaries of top administrators, I see bloated curriculum to foster social change, I see Taj-Majas to satisfy the egos of administrators and faculty. I do see many young people who certainly can and will fulfill the intent for societal progress in various fields of need. However, I also see many young and even some elderly people who are what I think of as space and money occupiers in the educational system. I suspect many of these are and will be little more than just ‘occupiers’ looking for someone else to give them what they want. The Nation’s educational system is in dire need of overall to match it’s real needs.
I believe if people had to pay for their education with “real” money, they would demand a lot more than they are getting now.
I never finished college, because of poor decisions I made in my past, but the classes I did manage to take, I paid for out of my pocket, and I was shocked at the bogus fees I had to pay. Paying for aspirin from the college clinic that I never stepped foot in?
EVERY time government gets involved in a program, or industry, the costs EXPLODE, for no other reason than it’s the govt that pays for it. It’s as if the govt is forcing people to take govt help because it’s far to expensive to pay otherwise.
I’d LOVE to go back to college, but I know it will never happen because I can barely afford to eat. Education shouldn’t be expensive and wouldn’t be if the govt had stayed out of it. Rant off...
I’ve been in voc. school since being laid off after the hope and change (09). Haven’t paid anything for it.
A yr of web design, then a year of medical coding. Don’t remember how the former was paid for, but the latter was with a Pell grant.
Can’t find a job, may as well learn something valuable/marketable.
I’ve been in voc. school since being laid off after the hope and change (09). Haven’t paid anything for it.
A yr of web design, then a year of medical coding. Don’t remember how the former was paid for, but the latter was with a Pell grant.
Can’t find a job, may as well learn something valuable/marketable.
3 years. Are you a conservative that believes the federal government should rein in spending?
I in line behind these two and overheard one vet telling another to go to school for so many hours a week and getting paid to do it. Take the rest of the week off.
That’s all i can tell you.
I just figured it was obamabucks.
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