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Economist Warns: Housing Prices Will Plummet
neswmax ^ | Friday, 13 Jul 2012 02:47 PM

Posted on 07/23/2012 5:19:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The United States is headed toward another real estate collapse — and it will be worse than the one we just experienced, according to famed economist and New York Times best-selling author Robert Wiedemer.

During his recent appearance on the Aftershock Survival Summit, Wiedemer provided startling evidence to support his claim that real estate prices could fall another 32 percent.

That would wipe out another $64,000 in equity from the average home.

Before you dismiss Wiedemer’s claims as impossible or unrealistic, consider this: In 2006, Wiedemer and a team of economists foresaw the first collapse of the U.S. housing market and published their research in the book America’s Bubble Economy.

Now Wiedemer is back with an even stronger warning.

He says that all of the positive housing news lately misses one critical item, and it’s the one that will sink the housing market sometime in late 2012 or early 2013.

Wiedemer states that the media (and most notably the National Association of Realtors) wants us to believe that housing prices have bottomed, and that right now is the perfect time to go out and buy a home.

They will point to a leveling-out of home prices and a sudden lack of inventory as an indication that the housing market is heating back up.

One “expert” goes so far as to say that real estate “has not just bottomed, but is booming” and talks of reported bidding wars on homes in locations like Seattle, Austin, and Palo Alto.

But Wiedemer believes that all of this positive news for the housing sector ignores the one factor that will cause housing prices to plummet: Interest rates will eventually rise.

(Excerpt) Read more at moneynews.com ...


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To: M. Espinola; MileHi; Whenifhow; moneyrunner; Oldeconomybuyer; grey_whiskers; blam; SAJ; ...
Loooky here . . .

David Stockman - Talks Obvious Problems in Conversations with Casey

LOL !

These problems are much more severe and Bernanke ought to be strung up by mobs in the streets. JMPO but the Fed is pursuing idiotic policies and Mr B is motivated by corruption and extreme greed.

23 posted on 07/25/2012 12:16:25 PM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: ex-Texan

RE prices are still going down in many states.


24 posted on 07/25/2012 12:18:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: ex-Texan

Thanks


25 posted on 07/25/2012 12:36:03 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: BenLurkin
"During his recent appearance on the Aftershock Survival Summit, Wiedemer provided startling evidence to support his claim that real estate prices could fall another 32 percent. "

Wow. That's hard to believe.

26 posted on 07/25/2012 4:57:22 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I just looked at a fairly new house in Arizona that sold for 248,000 in 2005, and is now 77,000.


27 posted on 07/26/2012 8:22:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I just looked at a fairly new house in Arizona that sold for 248,000 in 2005, and is now 77,000.

It will be an even better buy in 2014, when it appraises at $60,000.

Banks have hundreds of thousands of underwater mortgages in their portfolios. They're releasing dribs and drabs, hoping that prices will continue to firm.

28 posted on 07/26/2012 8:35:09 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: Night Hides Not

I think that’s the first anyone in the thread has mentioned this issue. I too wonder how much “shadow inventory” the banks still have, either because they don’t want to have to recognize the loss, or because the paperwork is so fouled up they haven’t been able to foreclose.

I have a house close to mine that I’m 99% sure is in this situation. It should have been foreclosed upon years ago.


29 posted on 07/26/2012 8:48:56 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Night Hides Not

” Banks have hundreds of thousands of underwater mortgages in their portfolios. They’re releasing dribs and drabs, hoping that prices will continue to firm. “

Yep. I just started looking at REO’s. Some people I know started buying 1 or 2 years ago, and are now up to 1/3rd upside down.


30 posted on 07/26/2012 8:59:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: FreedomPoster; Grampa Dave; blam; ex-Texan

” I too wonder how much “shadow inventory” the banks still have, either because they don’t want to have to recognize the loss, or because the paperwork is so fouled up they haven’t been able to foreclose.”

They have plenty, especially in northern ans southern California. There are many people living in 2-5 million dollar homes who haven’t made a mortgage payment for 2 or more years.

An entire industy has sprung up that teaches homeowners how to stay in their homes. Usually, a lawyer files paperwork with the(alleged) lender of record, requestiong 50-100 pieces of paperwork(paper chase). They demand proof that the mortgage bank is the REAL owner. This can take a year or more. Meanwhile, the home owner pays no mortgage or rent.


31 posted on 07/26/2012 9:13:32 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
There's another trick being employed by delinquent homeowners: when they receive notification that the property is being put up for bid in a foreclosure sale, they contact their lender and request a modification.

That usually puts a further delay in the process.

If the borrower wants to stay in the home, those delinquent payments can be capitalized in the new loan. Under HAMP, the rate can be as low as 2%.

The vast majority of the mods I've seen are done for borrowers with a documented hardship. Those trying to game the system are easy to spot, but they still slip through.

With apologies to Samuel Clemens, there are 3 kinds of lies:

1. Lies

2. Damn Lies

3. HAMP modifications

32 posted on 07/26/2012 9:48:23 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; M. Espinola; FreedomPoster; Grampa Dave; blam; Oldeconomybuyer; grey_whiskers; ..
Look at what just happened:

House Passes Audit the Fed

But the Dems will never audit the fed -- not in a million years. Too much bribery and corruption.

Did anybody listen to Jesse Ventura unloading on our totally corrupt political class last night on Coast to Coast AM ____ ?

33 posted on 07/26/2012 2:38:39 PM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: Night Hides Not

” With apologies to Samuel Clemens, there are 3 kinds of lies:

1. Lies

2. Damn Lies

3. HAMP modifications “

Sam would have agreed : )


34 posted on 07/26/2012 2:49:31 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: ex-Texan

Missed it, but it must have been a hoot.


35 posted on 07/26/2012 2:50:31 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: ex-Texan

If it is indeed a real truthful audit of the entire Federal reserve, Fed hacks will be going away — for a long time.


36 posted on 07/27/2012 5:26:52 AM PDT by M. Espinola
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To: M. Espinola
There will be no real or genuine audits. Pure window dressing. But a step in the right direction which is a good thing. I have read The Creature from Jekyll Island from cover to cover. The book was very eye opening but just a beginning.

The Fed is too all powerful, too much in control of everything. They are also in existence as a result of bribery and high level corruption since 1913. Some people even say they have been implicated in several deaths along the way (e.g. JFK) and even the FBI is daunted by their almost absolute power.

37 posted on 07/27/2012 7:47:26 AM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: ex-Texan
You are right. It is a private banking cartel, interlinked with international big banking. Its European branch is the E.U. banking cartel, both branches set up like the La Cosa Nostra. This cartel views the general public as sheep for the sheering, whenever they feel like sheering, i.e. unearned massive profits & power for the CEO's of the Fed.


38 posted on 07/27/2012 3:43:26 PM PDT by M. Espinola
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To: stephenjohnbanker; SierraWasp; steelie; tubebender; Liz

As usual your insight to California banks appears to be right on target.

Last month, we met the daughter of a church friend. She had worked for a couple of the big banks in N California. The last bank had her get her real estate license to help them in short sales. She saw a big business opportunity in the “lower priced”* homes in default.

She and a few other ex bankers formed a realty company specializing in the short sales of the “lower priced”* homes in the North Bay counties.

I asked her why no bigger/formerly more expensive homes in the just under under 1 million $ or over 1 million $ bracket were being dumped or discounted.

She said that the big banks’s top officers were told behind
closed doors not to start dumping the big and formerly expensive homes until after the November election.

I asked her, who told the bankers not to dump the expensive homes behind closed doors. She said, she couldn’t tell me. I asked if the evil Republicans told the bankers. She said no.

” I too wonder how much “shadow inventory” the banks still have, either because they don’t want to have to recognize the loss, or because the paperwork is so fouled up they haven’t been able to foreclose.”

They have plenty of the formerly High $ homes, especially in northern and southern California. There are many people living in 2-5 million dollar homes who haven’t made a mortgage payment for 2 or more years.

*The lower priced homes in the N Bay were the ones selling over $500 to $750 K and were now selling for half of the price before Pelosi/Reid’s recession hit.


39 posted on 07/30/2012 8:57:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Grampa Dave

I’ve had to reduce rents on 2 of my commercial rentals because I don’t want them sitting empty and neither does my insurance company. There were 358 big and little sawmills in Humboldt County in the 50s and now there is less than 20 and 60% of todays local payroll are taxpayer funded including the hospitals...


40 posted on 07/30/2012 10:12:33 AM PDT by tubebender
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