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Knife-wielding man gunned down by cops in Times Square
NYPost.com ^ | 8/12/21012 | LARRY CELONA, AARON FEIS and ANNIE KARNI

Posted on 08/12/2012 4:28:33 AM PDT by raybbr

Cops shot a knife-wielding maniac dead on a packed Midtown street yesterday after several officers drew their weapons and chased him at gunpoint through Times Square.

“Shoot me! Shoot me!” the armed madman shouted at a crowd of more than 20 cops, who had followed him for several blocks and blasted him with pepper spray before cornering him on Seventh Avenue near West 38th Street, according to witness Robert James.

The furious 51-year-old finally lunged at the officers with his 11-inch butcher knife, leading two cops to blast him in the torso, groin and arms at about 3 p.m., police said.

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Cops shot a knife-wielding maniac dead on a packed Midtown street yesterday after several officers drew their weapons and chased him at gunpoint through Times Square.

“Shoot me! Shoot me!” the armed madman shouted at a crowd of more than 20 cops, who had followed him for several blocks and blasted him with pepper spray before cornering him on Seventh Avenue near West 38th Street, according to witness Robert James.

The furious 51-year-old finally lunged at the officers with his 11-inch butcher knife, leading two cops to blast him in the torso, groin and arms at about 3 p.m., police said.


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To: raybbr

What was needed here was a net maybe two nets you get the psycho all tangled up and immobilized then you drag him down to the Precinct station or the loony bin as the case may be


81 posted on 08/12/2012 2:33:15 PM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: SampleMan

No you throw a net over the crazy person...That’s how you deal with guys like this


82 posted on 08/12/2012 2:34:45 PM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: raybbr

Am I the only one thinks that letting that much lead fly in THE MIDDLE OF TIMES SQUARE might not be the best or safest idea with regard to bystanders?


83 posted on 08/12/2012 3:16:50 PM PDT by robertwalker62
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To: SampleMan
So to clarify your position, we are supposed to shoot you if you are crazy and violent. Got it.

The alternative expectation that a crazy person with a weapon will be greeted with sympathetic voices, "O, you seem agitated? Did something go wrong this morning? Couldn't find matching socks? How can we help you like yourself again? No, no, you really should not go carving up the nice police horsey."

How special you are. You should offer your services to any municipality with a loon on the loose.
84 posted on 08/12/2012 4:33:23 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Nepeta

Being mentally ill is not a crime. Humane people attempt to help the sick, not euthanize them.

Most clinically paranoid people are quite treatable and quite controllable. But that requires you to think and not just shoot them.


85 posted on 08/12/2012 7:10:38 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: raybbr; Travis McGee

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FOR THE IGNORANT AND THE PANSIES:

During the Spanish-American War:

“The .45 (semi-automatic magazine-fed Colt Model 1911 pistol) was developed in response to serious problems encountered with the .38 caliber revolvers used in the Philippines during the Spanish-American War and the subsequent ‘pacification’ campaigns.

- The anemic .38 Long Colt cartridge failed miserably in combat, and the situation was so bad that some of the virtually antique .45 caliber Model of 1873 Single Action Army revolvers (I carry one or two large-frame circa 1898 Colt Model 1873 .44-40 Winchester Single Action 7” barrel revolvers - [they do not misfire and jam the action as pistols can - simply thumb back the hammer and pull the trigger] - that use the same powerful cartridge as the famous Winchester Model 1873 lever-action carbines and rifles) were called out of retirement and refurbished for use in the Philippines.

- The old black powder .45 Colt cartridge was a formidable man-stopper, although the antiquated single action design left much to be desired (mainly by those who were lousy shots!).

- After the unpleasantness in the Philippines died down, the U.S. military establishment searched in earnest for an adequate replacement for the unsatisfactory .38 revolvers.

- A more modern Colt revolver design was adopted for use with the .45 Colt cartridge (.45 Long Colt cartridge) as the Model of 1909. These revolvers were procured in rather small numbers as a stop-gap measure.

- The government actually wanted a semiautomatic or self-loading pistol chambered for a (rimless) .45 caliber cartridge.

- After extensive trials and testing, the Model of 1911 pistol chambered for the .45 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) cartridge was adopted. It should be pointed out that while the M1911 is invariably referred to as an automatic (especially by liberals in politics or the media or professional anti-gunners like Sarah Brady), it is actually a semiautomatic or self-loading design.”

- Bruce N. Canfield

“...So the bush war against them (Moros - high on drugs like the Times Square Barack Pansy with his 11” long butcher knife) goes on fiercely, and when they show a remarkable resistance to being annihilated by what weapons the Army possesses (only .38 caliber handguns were issued by the top brass sitting on their ass in Washington DC), field commanders plead with the Ordnance Department to give them something more substantial than the (dinky) .38-caliber semiautomatic pistol the Colt factory in Hartford has been producing since 1902. Ordnance turns the job over to John M. Browning, the country’s chief designer of guns, asking him to produce a weapon capable of stopping a (drugged-up crazy) Moro warrior cold.

- These tough fighters have shown an annoying disposition to use their bolos (knives!!!) even when they have absorbed one or two .38-caliber bullets.

- This challenge to Browning’s genius produces first a .45-caliber bullet, around which he designs a gun, and shortly Hartford is turning out the Colt .45 automatic (actually a semi-automatic) pistol, which not only destroys Moros but becomes standard military issue in 1911.”

- Tebbel

“After the U.S. Army adopted the .45 caliber Model 1911 Colt Browning pistol, they were issued to cavalry units in the western states. The troops of the 11th Cavalry used them on 5 May 1916 at a fight at the Ojos Azules ranch near Cusihuiriachic, Mexico, in what was probably the last cavalry charge in North America. Troopers of the 11th Cavalry and their 30-odd Apache scouts arrived at the Ojos Azules ranch at dawn.

- A lone Villista sentry, who spotted these members of General John J. Pershing’s punitive expedition, opened fire. The (American Indian) Apaches dismounted and began using their Model 1903 Springfield rifles.

- After a few minutes, it became obvious that the American would no(sic/typo) Lieutenant A.M. Graham, A Troop Commander, ordered his men forward, down the road into the ranch. Graham gave the order to draw (their .45 caliber) pistols.

- Each trooper pulled his Model 1911 Colt Browning self-loader from his holster, pulled the slide back, and let it snap forward, thumbing up the safety.

- Rifles popped off to the left where the (American-Apache Indian) scouts were shooting at long range toward the Villistas, and Mexicans were seen running from the buildings to their horses grazing in the hills beyond the ranch.

- The bugler sounded the charge, and Graham spurred his horse, leading A Troop down the road. They thundered ahead at a gallop and came under heavy but inaccurate rifle fire from the ranch where some thirty or forty (Mexican) Villistas had determined to make a stand from the ranch building roofs.

- The soldiers swept through, pistoling (blowing away) bandits who were running through the yard, some half-dressed.

- Graham watched as one horsemen cleared a gate connecting a barbed wire fence that ran at a sharp angle behind the buildings. He followed and made an equally spectacular leap over the gate landing almost beside the Mexican horse.

- Graham got so close that he was able to shove his (Colt .45ACP) pistol under the fleeing man’s armpit and pull the trigger. D Troop was stopped by the fence, but with wire cutters they sniped a hole wide enough to allow their horses to pass through in column.

- But they were stopped again 100 meters past the fence by firing coming from the Villistas, who had established a defensive line among the pines on the slope of a hill.

- The (American Army) troopers dismounted to return the fire and were joined by their (Apache Indian) scouts. Several Mexicans were killed and others fled up the hill in fighting that lasted only twenty minutes.

- Machine-gun troops had also participated briefly after the battle opened, firing into the buildings at a range of 1,500 meters, but inflicting no damage.

- Pistols and rifles had killed forty-two Villistas in and near the ranch, and another nineteen were accounted for by A Troop, when they pursued the retreating enemy into the hills south of Ojos Azules.

- No Americans had been shot in the close-in combat.

- The cavalry charge at Ojos Azules ranch in 1916 ended an era.
- Hereafter, the pistol was essentially an infantry weapon, used as a personal defense weapon, not as an offensive weapon.”

- Edward C. Ezell

SOURCE:

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Go ahead - Make my day -

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86 posted on 08/13/2012 12:05:02 AM PDT by devolve (-------------------- ------- "...maybe a little blow..." - Barack Hussein Obama Junior -------------)
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To: NoGrayZone
If he was hopped up on something, a taser might not have the same effect as someone who isn’t. If someone is coming at an officer, ready to stab him, the officer has EVERY RIGHT to kill the sh!thead. The less thugs on the streets, the better off for us citizens.

I have no problem with the fact that they shot him dead. Heck - I think there's something to be said for the medieval practice of mounting the heads of wrongdoers on pikes outside the city walls. What I have a problem with is that the city armed them with pepper spray (which they used to zero effect) instead of taser guns as their non-lethal option.

87 posted on 08/13/2012 7:25:09 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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