Skip to comments.Texas high school to open $60M football stadium
Posted on 08/30/2012 1:56:51 PM PDT by C19fan
Call it the palace of high school football: A gleaming $60 million facility with seats for 18,000 roaring fans, a 38-foot-wide high-definition video screen, corporate sponsors and a towering upper deck. Welcome to the new home of Eagles Football. As school districts across the country struggle to retain teachers, replace outdated textbooks and keep class sizes from ballooning, the wealthy, burgeoning Dallas suburb of Allen is preparing to christen its new stadium with a sold-out Friday night matchup against defending state champions Southlake Carroll.
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I wish my college had a $60MM football stadium!
Having grown up in that area I can say that there is a lot wealth in North Texas and the people don’t mind spending it. The boom in the 1980’s was tremendous and Dallas and its suburbs grew like crazy.
That was one thing I really like about where I live presently - its like you’ve gone back 20 years in time compared to the fast-moving DFW Metroplex.
Texas High School football is everything here! FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS!! Can’t wait!
Standard Operating Procedure in Texas.
Allen is just north of -- and is the 21st century version of -- Plano, where I lived during the 70's and 80's.
When I arrived, Plano was the AA champion; several years of growth later, they were the AAA champion -- for several years. Then, soon after, they were competing for the AAAA state title. Which they won, soon enough.
To maintain that winning streak, the town voted for a bond issue that -- rather than split the town into two high schools -- created two Grade 9-10 schools and one massive Grade 11-12 school. My son graduated in a class of 2,200, for example.
The express purpose was to maintain a winning football team that could challenge for the state title, year after year. And, at the same time, keep the entire community focussed around that school's success.
As an aside, the three best football games I ever saw at any level were in the 1977 Plano championship run. Others on this board will recall them: Quarter-finals: Plano 29, at Highland Park, 28 (miraculously coming back from a 0-28 deficit in the 4th quarter); Plano 3, Odessa Permian 0 (at Lubbock, in an icy north wind...the FG was in the first series...and, with the wind, bounced over the goalpost). And, finally, I had the pleasure of seeing the Plano Wildcats win a state title against the Port Neches-Groves Indians ("Hot boudin. Cold cous cous. C'mon Indians, poosh, poosh, poosh!") before 70,000 rabid fans at Cowboys Stadium.
Yeah, H.S. football in Texas is serious business. And a lot of fun. Everybody should experience it.
You make an excellent point.
It's not unlike the taxpayers in Erie County, NY [Buffalo] who, not only built Rich Stadium, but who continue to approve the spending of hundreds of millions more each decade or so to improve it. Democracy rules; but that doesn't mean it's not stupid.
I will insist, I have nothing against HS football, or Texas. I simply am noting that the taxpayers in this jurisdiction “approved” a white elephant.
The football program will have the art and music programs rolling in dough.
It's a fact.
The school district decided to build it in a down economy, knowing full well it will never recoup the costs.
The thing is, the Plano High Schools share the stadium, this stadium is for one school.
I frankly can't imagine that any district in Collin County has ever received a cent of Robin Hood funds -- much less Allen.
I do know for certain that none were even eligible to receive them when my wife won election to the County School Board.
You should see what Odessa Permian HS has, particularly when oil money is up.
If you have to ask why, it’s time to pack and go home. Just like the death penalty, some things don’t need explaining.
Stephenville, Brownwood, Odessa Permian, Abilene Cooper, LaMarque, and Lake Travis are some others but I've left out dozens of other excellent HS Texas programs that are legendary.
>>If you have to ask why, its time to pack and go home. Just like the death penalty, some things dont need explaining.<<
Hey, I can’t even understand why people give a tinker’s damn about High School at all. Those were the longest 2 years of my life, despite a few fun things along the way.
I couldn’t name a single person from then if you put a gun to my head.
College, OTOH, was a blast. I understand people’s affinity to their Alma Maters...
Is that the other standard? Players being drafted? Here’s a newsflash for you: it doesn’t matter whether a player is drafted from football, lacrosse, or pinochle . . . the taxpayers of that district don’t see squat.
Thanks for a good answer and a small history lesson for us all.
I think it’s interesting to find out differences between parts of country, cultures and generations on a particular subject. My kids didn’t have school sponsored sports until senior high. From grades 5-9 they played YMCA football. Our local fields could accommodate up to 10 games at same time, under lights with official scoreboards, paved parking lots, great food at concession areas, etc. Sponsor fees were $4,000 per team plus cost of jerseys and pants-a lot of money back then, plus all the kids paid to play. All the parents had team jerseys. Kids tried out and there were A and B teams within each grade school area. Lot of the boys went to football camps in the summer in other states. It was all about winning. Great coaches, conditioning, lots of newsprint. It was a big deal.
I do not believe that everyone should have a trophy and if you don’t keep score, why bother.
I also don’t have a problem with a $60 million dollar stadium providing it isn’t paid for with tax dollars and it doesn’t matter whether it’s for students or pros. If somebody wants it, they can pay for it. What irks me the most is flying into a city and having to pay for their sports complex by having an extra charge on my hotel or car rental bill.
There are lots of things that kids can try and if parents have a mind to, they can find something for their child to do where their child will be able to excel.
I’m startled to see our resident cheerleader for everything foreign touting the game of Lacrosse. It’s as American as football. It’s Indian Ball, and not your favored variety of Indian It’s a native American game.
As far as your not being able to find football players to play water polo with you, well, maybe you shoud try the theater department.
Most of the pocket-pool players wind up playing Lacross....
There's a REASON there's no Pro Lacrosse League in the USA.....nobody cares.
Again, your intent to justify wasteful government spending based on the popularity of the sport of your choice is beyond silly.
In 1965, our Texas football stadium was built for a mere 1.2 million.
Which even with inflation, pales compared to this beauty.
We tried to play water polo in My home town, but the horses kept drowning...
The horses I work with know how to swim. Maybe you had faulty horses? ;)
It’s good to see that some of the nation’s public schools are well functioning.
There have been two senior high schools in Plano only since 1981. Clark Field was built before that -- i.e., for one high school.
It's their choice.
Yes indeed. Football is what preceeds and follows the marching band’s performance each weekend.
I believe most stadiums and arenas are, from a strictly financial standpoint, losers. They can do a lot to bring a community together in various ways. The revitalization in Oklahoma City of the Bricktown area has cost a lot of money, but it has done a lot. Bringing the Thunder to town has also been huge for uniting the entire state. Normally everyone is pretty divided between OSU and OU, but everyone can get behind the Thunder.
How many people have to attend an event to take the quotaton marks off “sports” also, why is that relevant?
So, how is that Obamacare ting going to work out for us?
Now I see why I was never a Bush fan...or a Texas fan for that matter. It sure hasn’t done them much good in college football. I understand why A&M joined the SEC, so they could be a part of a winning conference.
Only relevant in the sense that, when the quotation marks are removed, it allows the sport to be hung around your (taxpaying) neck like an albatross.
If that’s how the taxpayerw want to waste their money ... go for it. I think it’s ridiculous.
But that city better not ask for Federal money for other stuff that they “can’t afford to pay for” themselves.
Nothing. But I bet you wouldn’t have to dig too far to find out that Allen is receiving Federal money for other stuff.
Why? What's the difference?
Do you live in that district?
How could you not know about this?
Did you vote against the bond issue for the stadium?
I would guess that Lacrosse and Water Polo were conducted in publicly funded venues as well. Probably not in 60 million dollar venues, but funded by taxpayers as well. Like this one, at their choice as well. It may not be wise, but they were not coerced, and unlike your comparison to Obamacare, there are no constitutional questions about a school district choosing to do this.
I keep hearing about a semi-final game that was played in the midst of a raging blizzard, between Vernon and Phillips. Epic game that ended up in a zero-zero tie, Phillips advancing on gross yardage (by something like a bare 3 yds, as I recall).
Then, Phillips went on to win the state title.
At one time, I was given to understand by a reputable source that the unofficial total of money bet on high school football in Texas exceeded the amount bet on either college or pro football. A rancher betting a grand that the Dumas Demons would beat the spread vs the Dalhart Wolves was not unheard of.
Odds are that some of those guys sitting around the coffee shop in "The Last Picture Show's" Anarene (Archer City) on Saturday morning had lost some serious bread on the last game of the season vs Antelope (Olney).
There was even a rivalry in Central Texas (Clifton & Meridian?) that got banned because, every time the two teams met, the game ended with a knock-down, drag-out fight between the two towns. This around 1992-or-so, as I recall.
Texas high school football: Nothing like it.
I went to school and played football in Oklahoma. It was serious....but nothing like Texas.
Huge difference between local taxes and Federal taxes.
Read the Constitution.
If LOCAL people want to tax themselves to pay for such things that fine. But if Federal money is being sent to this city which offsets this expenditure then the whole country is basically subsidizing the football stadium. I have a huge problem with that
In my fair burg, Flower Mound, Marcus and Flower Mound High School have their own stadiums, but they’re nothing like Allen’s, that’s for sure.
And if anyone is curious, Marcus Sucks, Go Jags!
Naturally, ten years from now, when things go south the same conservatives will be whining about "excessive" spending.
Over 19,000 showed up last week for a high school doubleheader in Cleveland at Browns Stadium. Better matchups would have drawn quite a few more.
Read the Constitution. /s
“Having lived in Texas, I can tell you that High School Football is a rite, not unlike Communion or a Bris!”
I’ve read that in some Texas towns with only one FM radio station if two teams are playing home games they’ll broadcast both games in stereo so listeners can fade the speakers to listen to one team or the other or both if they can handle it!
They said the 60 mil is gone and they won’t get it back in cash, again I and they seem to think it will provide some community and cultural benefits for the city, but they will be able to run it with the revenue they make from it. They are even projecting extra money to put into the general fund for the school.
The school district decided to build it in a down economy, knowing full well it will never recoup the costs.Who would've guessed we'd have so many FR Keynesians gather on one thread?
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