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Biblical-Type Floods Are Real, and They're Absolutely Enormous
Discover Magazine ^ | 29 Aug 2012 | David R. Montgomery

Posted on 09/04/2012 8:31:09 AM PDT by Theoria

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1 posted on 09/04/2012 8:31:12 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: SunkenCiv

Water, ping. Can’t help but wonder at all the pre-Clovis evidence that has been washed away over time.


2 posted on 09/04/2012 8:32:26 AM PDT by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: Theoria
Also, for book FReaders.


3 posted on 09/04/2012 8:35:24 AM PDT by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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These were not global deluges as described in the Genesis story of Noah, but were more focused catastrophic floods taking place throughout the world.

How about natural after-shock like effects from trapped water after Noah's flood waters receded?

4 posted on 09/04/2012 8:43:13 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Theoria

bump


5 posted on 09/04/2012 8:52:54 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Theoria

Bookmark for later.


6 posted on 09/04/2012 8:54:59 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Theoria
That is an excellent point. As to the story of Noah, a catastrophic post ice age glacial flood would resound in a community for millennium.

Had such an event occurred in the area around the fertile crescent or East Asia as little as 8,000 to 5,000 years ago, the scars on society and the belief of global catastrophe would have been immense and leave a significant impression on any that survived.

Noah was said to have had a warning from God, a premonition so to speak, of a massive flood that would destroy all mankind. He built a large vessel and took his family and much livestock with him into the ark and a deluge occurred.

That kind of story would resonate for more than mere decades or centuries, but for millenniums. Told and retold over the many centuries by the descendants.

very interesting.

7 posted on 09/04/2012 8:56:22 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Theoria

The literally interpreted Noah’s flood covered everything.


8 posted on 09/04/2012 9:13:36 AM PDT by DManA
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i love it when a plan comes together.....


9 posted on 09/04/2012 9:14:40 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Raycpa

Huh?


10 posted on 09/04/2012 9:21:12 AM PDT by stormer
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To: DManA

And according to the literally interpreted Bible it only happened once so the thesis of the article must be wrong.


11 posted on 09/04/2012 9:21:17 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Also, according to the flood legend, the water also sprang forth from the ground.


12 posted on 09/04/2012 9:31:16 AM PDT by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: Theoria
I've spent a great deal of time in the Scablands. For those unfamiliar with the range of environments in Washington, especially those that think of the Evergreen State as one big forest, you would be surprised at the variety of landscape.

Anyway, this author also wrote "Dirt - the Erosion of Civilization", a very interesting look at how the role of soil management in the development and decline in societies. I highly recommend it.

13 posted on 09/04/2012 9:40:24 AM PDT by stormer
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Our family visited the are when I was a kid back in the early 60s. Even then it was widely accepted that it was formed by a flood. I remember at the dry falls that they estimated more water flowed over it than two Niagra falls.


14 posted on 09/04/2012 10:04:48 AM PDT by DManA
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"The rocks exposed in the canyon walls could not have settled during a single flood because they alternate many times in color, grain size, and composition."
Ignorance speaks.
15 posted on 09/04/2012 10:11:26 AM PDT by ME-262 (Ichabod)
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Really? What’s your background in geomorphology, especially as related to fluvial processes?


16 posted on 09/04/2012 10:28:07 AM PDT by stormer
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Thanks Theoria.
 
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17 posted on 09/08/2012 5:33:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Theoria. None of the examples given describe the Biblical flood, but it's still an interesting discussion.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


18 posted on 09/08/2012 7:47:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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http://mesocosm.net/category/articles/comparative-religion-and-mythology/

..... the Tlingit used to live in peace and abundance in Glacier Bay [ALASKA]....But this girl was kept there for three years, which is a very long time. One day she saw a glacier very far away, and perhaps because she was unhappy with her seclusion, she called to it like a dog, saying “Glacier, here, here.”

To everyone’s alarm, the glacier started to grow, started to advance on the Tlingit, fast, faster than a dog could run. Everyone saw it charging toward them and they got into their boats to flee, to leave Glacier Bay and find a new place to dwell...

When I spoke to Bertha, I told her I had read this story, and I wanted to know, how do the Tlingit hold these stories today? Are they valued as legends, or are they believed, the way history is believed?

She told me that it may be hard for you to accept that a glacier would run as fast as a dog, but we’ve researched the area and we know that the Tlingit of her village came down from Glacier Bay, and they regard it as their sacred home. The archaeological evidence indicates that the area was inhabited around 2000 years ago by a people evidencing cultural continuities with the Tlingit of today, until they were driven out by a long period of ice. When the glaciers receded after the end of the Little Ice Age in the Middle Ages, the Tlingit appear to have moved (back?) into the area.

She told me that there are many stories that can be told to outsiders, like the ones I read in my book, and many songs that are sung for anyone. But then there are stories and songs that are private, known to the families and houses, and those stories have a lot to say about the world, and who we are.


19 posted on 09/08/2012 9:29:41 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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I’ve been to the Scablands and Moses Coulee. Makes for a great field trip.


20 posted on 09/09/2012 6:18:07 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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